MONTGOMERY, Ala. – Alabama began issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples Monday after the U.S. Supreme Court denied the state’s request to extend a hold on a federal judge’s earlier ruling.
Alabama gay marriage: Dueling protests outside probate court adhering to Roy Moore’s order
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MONTGOMERY, Ala. – On a day where sadness, confusion and joy blended, same-sex couples went to get marriage licenses Monday after the U.S.
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At least 35 of 67 Alabama counties are not issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, in defiance of a federal ruling to do so, according to an ABC News count.
Commentary by Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
There is a discussion on this website, OrlyTaitzESQ.com, of the issue of gay marriage. I am not taking a position whether a gay marriage should be legal or not. My position is that marriage is a state issue, it is not included in a few enumerated rights that the states and the people agreed to grant to the federal government.
Now, one of liberal democrats, who sometimes posts on this site, argued that this is the equal protection issue, which can be decided by the federal government. However, the states have anti discrimination laws in their own constitutions. Also, based on the 14th amendment, the issue of due process and protection against discrimination is guaranteed to the people under the state laws. State laws were passed by the people of these states and they control the social norms in these states. The federal courts should have remanded the challenges to the state courts and allowed the state courts to rule based on the 14 th amendment and state anti-discrimination laws. For example, in Colorado the matter of a baker refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple was ruled upon based on the state laws.
In LA, as well as in the 4th circuit, Federal judgesdescended from a number of other federal judges and ruled that gay marriage was never a long standing social right and as a matter of fact only a few years ago it would be considered as something unthinkable. Specifically, Judge Feldman in LA ruled that such a major change in the society, in social life, such as allowing gay marriages, should be decided by the people of the state, by voting in a democratic manner, not by a decision of an unelected federal judge.
If federal courts could override the state laws and state constitutions on gay marriages, what is next?
What if someone states that he is in love with a 15 year old or 13 year old, that he is denied equal protection by a state ban on marriage under 18, should the court grant equal protection and allow such marriage?
What about 2 cousins or two siblings or daughter and father in love? Should the court allow these marriages based on equal protection?
What about the love between one man and several women, should the court allow polygamy?
Where is the limit? Are there any boundaries left in the society? And if we take down all boundaries, do we still have a society? Do the state laws matter or do we have a tyranny of an overreaching federal government?
What if the Supreme court decides that every illegal alien deserves equal rights with the US citizens to a job? For example, a number of states passed laws that in order to be enrolled in schools in those states, students had to show that they are allowed to legally reside in the US. Supreme court decided against the will of the people and ruled that we, the taxpayer,s have to provide free education for any illegal alien who jumps the fence or crawls under the fence. I believe, that the Supreme court ruled in such a manner in order to provide our oligarchy with an unending supply of cheap foreign labor. If the Supreme Court of the US had no problem deciding that it is ok to steal our hard earned tax payer money to provide free education to illegal aliens, it is not far fetched to believe that in the near future they will rule that it is ok to steal your jobs in order to give them to illegals. They will claim that it is a violation of equal protection or will come up with some other bogus excuse.
Further, how do you reconcile the rights of the state and the rights of small groups of people? I respect the will of the people of Vermont and CT and a few other states to allow gay marriages. However, there should be a respect for the will of the people in the majority of states, which do not allow gay marriage. Supreme Court should allow the people of AL, CA, FL and vast majority of states in the US, which currently have bans on gay marriage, to revisit this issue in a democratic way, through an election, not by a decision of unelected judges. I believe that within a number of years a number of states would have changed their stance on gay marriage, however it would come from the people of the states, not from unelected federal judges. I believe, these actions by the courts create a lot of discontent and outright anger in people of many states. The anger is not towards the gay community, I believe, the anger is growing against the federal government. The anger includes multiple issues. Rescission of bans on gay marriages is only one of the issues. We are seeing anger against Obama’s grant of amnesty and work permits to millions of illegals, bailout of banks, astronomic debt and the list goes on and on. We are seeing the lowest number of Democrats in Congress in some 90 years which I believe, is due to this anger by the people.
Today, the headlines show that Alabama counties and judges are rising against the feds and against the Supreme Court and refusing to grant marriage licenses to gay couples.
What will happen next? Will Obama send the military to Alabama to enforce the decision by the federal court? Will the people’s militia rise against the federal troops? Will this be the spark which will ignite the fire of the popular revolt against the federal government and the federal courts? Will possible arrest of state judges in AL be akin to Bundy ranch? Will we see the states choosing to secede?
What do you think?
February 9th, 2015 @ 12:58 pm
I don’t think this is the issue that will spark a revolt. Not enough people really care. Sure, they don’t support gay marriage, but when push come to shove, it doesn’t do them any harm. It will take something else that really hits them in the pocketbook.
February 9th, 2015 @ 1:02 pm
maybe, though Bundy ranch did not affect people directly either
February 9th, 2015 @ 4:04 pm
1. No
2. No
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3. No
February 9th, 2015 @ 4:16 pm
Dear Orly, PLEASE, stop usage of the “recommended and approved” euphemism g*y. I am ashamed of you every time when you comply to homosexual Mafia and resort to their terminology. There is enough of the appropriate neutral English terms such as pederasts, homosexuals, sodomites, sexual perverts…
1) The very concept of “same sex marriage” is an oxymoron deliberately confusing the concepts.
2) Homosexuals have EXACTLY the same right to marry a qualified person of opposite sex, as all other normal people have. On the contrary: What sodomites are scandalously fighting for, is something that others DO NOT have (and do not wish to have).
3) It is not a matter as though sodomites do not have what others have: They do. It is that sodomites DON’T LIKE to have what others have. They want leftward traffic rules in the nation with rightward traffic. That’s on a surface of it. In reality they wish TO PUSH 99% OF SANE populous into closets instead of them being closed up forever in their closets. And the NWO “justice system” listens to sodomite orders.
Here are more talking points:
https://JudeoChristiAnamerica.org/Prop8TalkPoints.htm
https://JudeoChristianAmerica.org/SpecterOfSodomOverEurope.htm
February 10th, 2015 @ 2:53 pm
Wow! Alex: why not stop complaining about what Orly is posting…it’s her site, for Christs sake!
Can’t you handle that?
Give Orly a break with your silly-assed Criticisms all the time! She has the right to post anything she wants for heavens sake!