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Why there was no immediate rescue? Why did the pilot have to swim to shore to get help, why wasn’t help dispatched right away, since the engine stopped only 1 and a half minutes after take-off according to passenger C. Phillip Holstein. Is it Benghazi all over again?

Posted on | December 14, 2013 | 21 Comments

Birdy
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In the article you show by Jennifer Sinco Kelleher, Associated Press, C. Phillip Holstein claims to have been the person to have swum to the shoreline –

‘”….Bobbing in the water, Hollstein noticed the pilot and seven other passengers seemed fine. “I didn’t want to sit out there bobbing, so I figured I’d take a shot at going to the shoreline.”

He guesses the swim to the rugged shoreline took an hour and a half.’

But in this article by Gregg K. Kakesako in the Honolulu Start Advertiser, the pilot is identified as the one who swam ashore –

https://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/235590541.html

“The Rev. Pat Killilea, pastor of St. Francis Church at Kalaupapa, said he didn’t see the plane hit the water, but watched rescue operations from Kalaupapa’s airport where the survivors were taken.

Killilea said the pilot swam to shore to get help for the passengers floating offshore.

“He (pilot) had been able to get the passengers out of the plane wearing their life vests. However, once in the water they were beginning to drift apart and so he decide to swim to shore to get help,” Killilea said this morning in a phone interview. He added, “There was blood on his (pilot’s) chest when he arrived at the airport.”

Holestein is not the pilot.

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21 Responses to “Why there was no immediate rescue? Why did the pilot have to swim to shore to get help, why wasn’t help dispatched right away, since the engine stopped only 1 and a half minutes after take-off according to passenger C. Phillip Holstein. Is it Benghazi all over again?”

  1. James Smith
    December 14th, 2013 @ 1:10 am

    Nothing makes sense because it was murder.

  2. Rod Riddle
    December 14th, 2013 @ 4:52 am

    The story they are telling is fabricated. When a plane loses its engine it loses it’s thrust. Therefore the nose of the plane would have dropped straight down into the water. It is impossible to perform a controlled landing like the one they are describing without atleast partial thrust capability.

  3. Denise
    December 14th, 2013 @ 5:25 am
  4. Harry
    December 14th, 2013 @ 5:49 am

    Do you really think you will get any straight answers fro the biggest con-job in history? It may be a legitimate crash but because of all the previous deception we Americans are suspicious of this evil lying regime-and the controlled press who covers up Obamas mistakes & crimes-

  5. Veritas
    December 14th, 2013 @ 5:55 am

    Could it be it was a “psy-ops” event?

    It sounds like a James Bond scene, or worse, Austin Powers and Dr. Evil.

  6. Hamilton Haywood Jablome
    December 14th, 2013 @ 5:58 am

    With certainty I can state that Fuddy DID NOT die in the plane crash. She died after the plane crash while she was floating in the water. More than likely a drone attack with a small dart.

  7. Hamilton Haywood Jablome
    December 14th, 2013 @ 5:59 am

    Orly. You flew too close to the sun. Now it is time for the administration to remove all of the evidence, all witnesses and people who know too much.

  8. Hamilton Haywood Jablome
    December 14th, 2013 @ 5:59 am

    Orly. You flew too close to the sun. Now it is time for the administration to remove all of the evidence, all witnesses and people who know too much.

  9. Elizabeth
    December 14th, 2013 @ 10:46 am

    So, Hamilton Jablome, the ‘administration’

    will have to remove a few million Americans,

    including those of us who are posting on

    this board: we ALLLLL know too much

    and that include YOU.

  10. Elizabeth
    December 14th, 2013 @ 10:56 am

    typo: *(includeS)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And yes, this is like a James Bond
    spy movie.

    Veritas nailed it.

    When you count all the mysteries
    surrounding all of the previous
    deaths surrounding this regime,
    it resembles a script
    from a suspense film.

    Normally a plane crash is just
    a tragic plane crash; in this one
    there are so many discrepancies
    and contradictory accounts,

    that logic indicates that it was
    deliberately set-up to eliminate a
    potential ‘whistleblower.’

    As for the jokester who said
    he had to ‘kill her’~~~~~~
    I would advise him to find
    something uplifting to do
    with his time.. like feed
    the homeless in his area.
    I don’t buy his “claim to
    fame.”

  11. Alexander Gofen
    December 14th, 2013 @ 11:06 am

    To Rod Riddle: When a plane loses its engine it loses it’s thrust – but not the velocity and altitude! A skillful pilot may safely glide down even in a heavy Boing – the real case near New York a couple of year ago. By sliding down, a pilot can increase the velocity so that the plane stays stable still having some lift from the wings.

  12. CI-AAAAAAAAAAAY
    December 14th, 2013 @ 11:10 am

    As well…was the entire episode staged, so they could get rid of Fuddy?

    And they only seem to end the life of someone that has cooperated with them, in the past?!

    Yeah…this entire situation smells! If it had only been another one of the passengers, no one would think twice about it! But since it was Fuddy, we should see transparency with this case!

  13. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    December 14th, 2013 @ 11:13 am

    you are a 100% correct

  14. Glasnost
    December 14th, 2013 @ 12:02 pm

    MYSTERIOUS CAR PROBLEMS

    FUDDY
    BREITBART
    HASTINGS

    ALL DEAD

    HASTINGS DIED IN A FIREBALL CAR ACCIDENT

    NO COINCIDENCE AT ALL

    WATCH YOUR BACK

    THE ENTIRE ALINSKYITE REVOLUTION IS AT STAKE

  15. Davey Crockett
    December 14th, 2013 @ 12:30 pm

    Lost my post; my machine is acting up!

    Another question I have is why didn’t the pilot fly a Float-Plane, since it was so close to lots of ocean and it was safer to use than a plane with wheels!

    If these planes have any problems, they can just set down on the water, then, call from their radios! And don’t these planes (nowadays) have any emergency beacon to send out, as soon as they recognize trouble?

    The accounts can’t be taken seriously. Too many times we have been lied to. And SPECTOR doesn’t like to tell the truth!

    And we just all remember, too, that Ian Fleming was the creator of the Bond Films, since he was in British Intelligence, during WWII. And he was very close to all the types of things we have been witnessing, like real life Bond Films in this day and age!

    So, this so-called “accident” needs to be examined, closely. And we shouldn’t take anyone’s word for what they may continue to say, publicly!

  16. Robert
    December 14th, 2013 @ 12:30 pm

    DURING TAKE OFF (1 1/2 minutes)—This means that the AC WAS at FULL THROTTLE AT APPROXIMATELY 130 TO 150 MPH IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY LIFT “UP” AND MAKE THE NORMAL TAKE OFF. AND ACCORDING TO THEIR FLIGHT PLAN THEY WERE HEADED TO OAHU (NORTH WEST DIRECTION) FROM MOLOKAIS’S NORTH EAST AIRPORT… WHY THE RIGHT TURN (WHEN SUPPOSEDLY ENGINE FAILED)..DURING RECOVERY THEY CAN TELL THE DIRECTION IT TURNED. ENGINE FAILURE AT TAKE OFF SPEEDS (=’S) DRASTIC NOSE DIVE!! ENGINE SHUT-OFF (=’S) INTENTIONAL SMOOTH WATER LANDING AND PREPLANNING I.E. TIMING, LOCATION, AND AC NOSE DIRECTION (PLUS) SHORE PROXIMITY!!!

    FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR YOUR CONTINUOS INVESTIGATION OF THIS MUSLIM IMPOSTER!

  17. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    December 14th, 2013 @ 12:56 pm

    how do they benefit from a right turn, what is in it?

  18. Donna
    December 14th, 2013 @ 4:36 pm

    The man that swam ashore was 70 years old??? Thats hard to believe—— But what isnt hard to believe where o is concerned???? I dont believe anything the news reports!

  19. js/js
    December 14th, 2013 @ 5:55 pm

    It seems that a Wellstone bomb was in the plane
    fuselage, IMO. That is the basis of the nose
    noise, on turning. Set by angle and degree of
    turn. Same as in Wellstone’s murder in 2002.
    Also, drugs may have been involved. They can
    coat a life vest both inside and outside, with
    various toxic chemicals (Polonium?) that can kill
    within 5 minutes. Please take note Orly. Please!
    There is much danger. May Loretta, RIP. It
    was surely murder, IMO. Obot thugs & Holder.

  20. Robert
    December 14th, 2013 @ 6:33 pm

    The right turn that the pilot did was (In my opinion)an INTENTIONAL manuever to get the AC closer to the shoreline at the exact moment he (possibly)SHUT the engine off. 99.999% of any SINGLE engine FAILURE during take-off will most likely be DISASTEROUS…because FORWARD THRUST and AC LIFT IS DRASTICALLY LOST, THEREFOR AN IMMEDIATE DOWNWARD PLUNGE TAKES IN EFFECT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY..NOT HAVING ANY TIME TO RECOVER, GAIN CONTROL, OR DO ANYTHING. The AC’s BLACK BOX will have recordings as to WHAT THE PILOT DID OR DIDN’T DO/FAILED TO DO AT THE EXACT TIMEFRAME THE AC TOOK OFF AND MOST IMPORTANTLY DURING IT’S PROCLAIMED ENGINE FAILURE. SUBPOENA (sp) THE SECURITY OF THE BLACK BOX IMMEDIATELY!!!!

    GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS!

    “HAPPY HOLIDAYS”

  21. ED O.
    December 14th, 2013 @ 10:51 pm

    Robert presents a very interesting observation. In one of the news reports it mentioned that the pilot was a skilled glider pilot too.

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