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sent by FedEx today to Loretta Fuddy, director of Health, state of Hawaii

Posted on | July 27, 2011 | 54 Comments

LAW OFFICES OF DR. ORLY TAITZ ESQ

29839 SANTA MARGARITA PKWY, STE 100

RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA CA 92688

PH. 949-683-5411 FAX 949-766-7603

Orly.taitz@gmail.com

07.27.2011

Personal and Confidential

Attention Loretta Fuddy

Director Health Department

State of Hawaii

1250 Punchbowl str Room-325

Honolulu, HI 96813

Dear Ms. Fuddy,

On July 5, 2011 a subpoena was issued by the US District Court for the District of Hawaii and signed by the clerk of the court, directing you to allow on August 8, 2011  inspection of the original 1961 typewritten birth certificate # 10641for Barack Obama, II issued 08.08.1961, signed by Dr. David Sinclair, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and registrar Lee, stored in the Health Department of the State of Hawaii from 08.08.1961 until now.  (exhibit 1 attached).

Due to the fact that  Deputy Attorney General of Hawaii, Jill T. Nagamine, advised me, that she is representing you in this matter, as she was the one to respond to a prior subpoena, issued by me as an attorney; and as a courtesy to you, I served you with this, July 5 subpoena, through your attorney, Deputy Attorney General Nagamine. According to the certified mail receipt Ms. Nagamine received the subpoena on July 11, 2011. She had 14 days to file an opposition to this court issued subpoena. It has been 16 days, since the subpoena was received by Ms. Nagamine, however there is no record of any opposition  filed. As such, it is my understanding, that you will comply with the subpoena and I would like to confirm this.

As my experts and I do not reside on the islands of Hawaii, and since we needs to make arrangements for flights, hotel and other accommodations, and in light of the fact, that you, according to your attorney, refused to comply with the prior subpoena, I am writing this letter and I am trying to ascertain:

  1. Whether Ms. Nagamine put you on notice of this July 5, 2011 subpoena signed by the clerk of the court.
  2. Whether you will comply with the subpoena and will allow inspection of the original birth certificate for Mr. Obama, or whether you refuse to comply with the subpoena signed by the clerk of the US District Court for the District of Hawaii.

As the time is of the essence, this letter is being shipped to you by FedEx and will be received by you on Thursday 07.28.2011. I request a response with the above information in regards to compliance with the subpoena by the end of the work day on 07.29.2011 via e-mail to be sent to my e-mail address at orly.taitz@gmail.com

Sincerely,

Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ

Exhibit 1

July 5, 2011 Subpoena

 

Comments

54 Responses to “sent by FedEx today to Loretta Fuddy, director of Health, state of Hawaii”

  1. Howard Appel
    July 27th, 2011 @ 2:19 pm

    Let’s see:

    First, you start off by denoting the letter as “Personal and Confidential” and you then post the letter on the Internet – so much for personal and confidential I don’t think those words mean what you think they mean.

    Second, you state that the court “issued” subpoena directing them “to allow on August 8, 2011 inspection of the original 1961 typewritten birth certificate # 10641for Barack Obama, II issued 08.08.1961.” If, in fact, your subpoena is valid, they can just wait for you to show up on that date. If you don’t want to show up, they are not obligated to let you know in advance whether or not they will be there. If you were a real lawyer, you would know that it is customary to attempt to schedule a mutually agreeable date with the other side before serving the subpoena. You elected to skip that step (which is not mandatory), but by skipping that step, which is a simple courtesy, you should not expect courtesy from them. They can just wait until August 8, by which time I anticipate Judge Lambreth will have ruled against you and rendered the subpoena moot.

    I could go on and on about your deficiencies as a lawyer (and don’t even get me started on your failings as a human being), but I doubt that you will post this comment, so I will stop here.

    If you ever want to have a legitimate debate, please let me know. You have my email address.

    In fact, I challenge you to a “moot court” relating to these matters. You select any three retired California Supreme Court justices, we agree to abide by the California Rules of Civil Procedure, Evidence, etc., and losers pay their fees. The public will be allowed to attend the moot court and it will taped for further distribution.

    I know you won’t agree to this because you are not only incompetent and wrong on the law and the facts, but you are a coward.

  2. Delanger
    July 27th, 2011 @ 3:35 pm

    Howard, I couldn’t have said it better. This ungrateful immigrant needs to given her comeuppance. President Obama oughta have her carcass locked up for wasting people’s time with her stunts.

  3. Alec
    July 27th, 2011 @ 3:35 pm

    A sad day, when lawyers are concerned with trivia, rather than laws such as Article 1, section 2 of US Constitution, fraud, and facts such as forged BC and questionable SS number. Oh well, thanks to such priorities, here we go into the abyss. Fasten seat belt, and remember purges of USSR, where millions of supporters of Lenin and Stalin who thought they were so smart, thought they were winners, were executed. Thank you Orly for everything you have done. We know that you do not have prestigeous law degree and 30 years arguing cases for big law firm. You might have made some mistakes, but they are trivial compared to support for tyranny. You have done your best.

  4. pi314
    July 27th, 2011 @ 3:35 pm

    Wow, Howard’s response is WAY more eloquent than mine. Which you haven’t published anyway, so it doesn’t really matter.

  5. Francis Black
    July 27th, 2011 @ 3:55 pm

    Hole. Digging. Deeper.

  6. Joseph
    July 27th, 2011 @ 3:56 pm

    You sir are a idiot. How do I know this? I read your post above. Have a good night!

  7. Larry Tate
    July 27th, 2011 @ 3:57 pm

    You can thank your failure with the DC court and the ABA for picking up this story. Not that every attorney in the United States (with the exception of those that are crazy like you) didn’t already know you were inept. But now you’re definitely known. My guess is that the ABA will not be inviting you to join their ranks.

  8. ihveit@aol.com
    July 27th, 2011 @ 3:59 pm

    harold posted:
    Let’s see:

    First, you start off by denoting the letter as “Personal and Confidential” and you then post the letter on the Internet – so much for personal and confidential I don’t think those words mean what you think they mean

    very quickly i see where you seem to think you are so much smarter… so why dont you try to help? ohh wait you are from obamas camp????

    anyhow your idea of 3 retired judges makes a bit of sense but why not go all the way and have them conduct a grand jury at the same time..

    if so WOULD YOU agree to abide with the verdict?

    have you ever actually studied out ALL THE EVIDENCE?

    if not then i would assume you just wanted to waste time trying to make the one person who is wanting the simple truth look like an idiot..

    but hang in there and one day you will see that she actually knows a bit of what she speaketh.

    and when its finished i hope to see obama behind bars or before a firing squad along with a whole bunch who are doing their best to stop this issue …

    but do have a good day..
    will

  9. Pv
    July 27th, 2011 @ 4:00 pm

    Howard-the-Coward…”it is customary to attempt to schedule a mutually agreeable date with the other side”- you’re serious?…The OTHER side doesn’t return calls…Howbout debating me?…over here…not in the school yard…

  10. Larry Tate
    July 27th, 2011 @ 4:02 pm

    And as Howard was so kind to point out regarding the ‘Personal & Confidential’ part of your letter. Why did you waste money on sending the letter to Hawaii? Just send an email with return receipt and a link to this post. It would have been as good as the letter.

    Your subpoena was never valid in the first place. The AG of Hawaii told you after you sent the first invalid subpoena that they would not comply due to privacy laws.

    What I would suggest is that you contact Helen Waite. She’s the “go to” person there in Hawaii if you really want to examine President Obama’s original birth certificate.

  11. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    July 27th, 2011 @ 4:18 pm

    what are you talking about? who is Helen Wait, and why would any employee provide a document, that is in charge of Loretta Fuddy. You sound like an obot

  12. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    July 27th, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

    I am a member of ABA, what about you?

  13. e. scott
    July 27th, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

    What is your point, Howard? Are you trying to convince us that you are smarter than Orly?

    It didn’t work.

  14. Tommy
    July 27th, 2011 @ 4:24 pm

    Howard is had a few to many tonight!

  15. Tommy
    July 27th, 2011 @ 4:25 pm

    Howard has had a few to many tonight!

  16. Mark
    July 27th, 2011 @ 4:43 pm

    From one patriot to another, GO ORLY!

    When the house of cards, and the joker Obama sitting on top, comes tumbling down, it will be a momentus occasion worthy of becoming a national holiday to be celebrated by true Americans forever.

    And all the commie OBOT vermin will run with their tails tucked, and crawl back under whatever rocks they came from.

  17. S Feinstein
    July 27th, 2011 @ 5:10 pm

    Howard is, of course, correct.

  18. Mark Fowler
    July 27th, 2011 @ 5:14 pm

    Wow! The support from your flying monkeys is absolutely great! Do they realize that Howard is a REAL attorney that really knows the law? I doubt it.

    As far as being a member of the ABA, anyone can join so I wouldn’t be tooting my horn.

    The reference from Larry to Helen Waite is easy. She’s the go to person. You need to ‘go to Helen Waite’. Say that a few times and you’ll get it. ;)

    I have to agree with some of the other posters that also agree with Howard. But they don’t go far enough. Personally, I believe Obama should have you put in some stocks in downtown Los Angeles so people can go by and throw rotten vegetables and rocks at you. Then, he should revoke your citizenship and have you deported.

  19. Thomas F. Babson
    July 27th, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

    Orly, when will you make your decision about going to Hawaii?

  20. Florence Stone
    July 27th, 2011 @ 5:27 pm

    I continue to be amazed that people who think they are so smart are so stupid that they cannot put two and two together; forged B.C., fraudulent selective service application, stolen (over 29) SS#’s, as CIC letting a decorated military officer face court martial because Obama couldn’t come up with a B.C., and then, when Corsi’s book is coming out, produces a plainly, poorly forged B.C. Good heavens, there is so much factual evidence that shows without a shadow of a doubt that Obama is a fraud and a felon and belongs in prison, not OUR White House, that any middle school child could see it. Walter, Orly has more important things to be doing than playing court games with an idiot like yourself. Taitz v Astrue continues to move through the process and when it reaches its resolution, I expect to see a whole lot of you OBOT’s posting apologies galore to this woman who has more intellect in her pinkie than you all have combined. Are you obot’s all school drop outs who have fried your brains on drugs? That is the impression you give to the world and, I guess it is to be expected, since The One, in his own words, used drugs and woke up in the gutter not even knowing where he was. Birds of a feather……

  21. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    July 27th, 2011 @ 5:33 pm

    I am not providing any plans in advance. I will do whatever is necessary

  22. LittleCat'sFeet
    July 27th, 2011 @ 5:33 pm

    e. scott — You are absolutely correct. Orly is one of the smartest attornies out there. She is always one or two steps ahead of Nobama.

    And Appel is not the one I would like to see her debate. She would mincemeat him.

  23. Barbi Dee
    July 27th, 2011 @ 5:39 pm

    Why do U dignify the Obots on your site by giving them the time of day?? Please stop posting ALL derogatory comments and tell them to go to HELL!

  24. hippybiker
    July 27th, 2011 @ 6:30 pm

    Orly, Slime Ball Larry was making an old joke at your expense. He doesn’t realize that you might not be familiar with some American slang and humor. What he meant was…”you can go to Hell and wait.” i for one, do not find his comment amusing. god bless you Orly.

  25. Howard Appel
    July 27th, 2011 @ 6:45 pm

    I appreciate the comments, both those agreeing with and those critiquing. Please allow me to respond to both:

    1. Delanger, I do not believe that we should imprison or use the criminal code as a means of suppressing or punishing those whom don’t agree with us, although that is the position expressed on numerous occasions by Dr. Taitz’s supporters.

    2. Alec: It is because I have such a strong and undying belief in the Constitution and our laws that I take the positions I do. But I have nothing but contempt for those who claim to want to protect the Constitution, but can only cite those sections that appear to support their positions, and when they don’t their positions, they misconstrue or deliberately misinterpret the Constitution. For example, the First Amendment says, in its entirety, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Note, it does not say that you have the right to have the Government agree with you, it says your right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances shall not be abridged. Similarly, Article II, Section 5 says, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.” It does not define what constitutes a natural born citizen and please, do not argue that because the Constitution says “The Law of Nations” the framers were referring to Vatel. There are terms capitalized throughout the Constitution and those terms don’t refer to books. Additionally, the Supreme Court has never defined a “Natural Born Citizen” as one requiring two citizen parents and has, in fact, defined it, inter alia, as one born on US soil (subject to certain exceptions, e.g., children of diplomats, that are not applicable here).

    3. Mr. Joseph: Such an eloquent and persuasive argument – are you a Republican elected official. Let me re-characterize your argument for you – “Mr. Appel, I disagree with you. Therefore, you must be wrong.” Such powerful and logical arguments, no need to cite to facts, law or anything else. I must bow before such a intellectual tour de force. In case you don’t get, that was SARCASM.

    4. Mr. Larry Tate: Membership in the ABA is entirely voluntary and requires only the payment of a fee.

    5. Mr./Mrs./Ms. ihveit@aol.com. First off, the name is Howard, not Harold. Unfortunately, the rest of your post displays the same stunning attention to detail.

    Second, I make no claim that I am smarter than Dr. Taitz and, if you think I have, please point it out.

    Third, I suggested a moot court approach in that it would allow a format whereby three recognized jurists would have the opportunity to review the evidence and arguments presented by advocates for both sides, well at the same time complying with pesky little concerns such as rule of evidence. After all, I would hope that, if you were ever accused of something, you would want the prosecutor to have to actually prove your guilt, not just stand there and say, ala Mr. Joseph above, you are a poopy-pants.

    Fourth, as to your question about a grand jury, while others might think it a good idea to give me the power to criminally indict someone, I prefer to leave that power as set forth in our laws, an example of which is the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

    Fifth, you asked if I would agree to abide with the verdict. It may be a function of my advancing years, but one of the principal demands of many birthers has been that President Obama (even you do not like President Obama, I believe that the dignity of his office demands that he be addressed as President) produce his birth certificate. He did, it was certified as a true and correct copy by the appropriate authorities of the State of Hawaii. Has that stopped you, Dr. Taitz or her adherents from still screaming conspiracy and cover-up? Of course not. There have been close to one hundred cases brought to date, but you don’t seem to accept any of those verdicts. J’accuse.

    Sixth, have I actually studied ALL THE EVIDENCE. Before addressing that, WHAT IS WITH ALL CAPS? Do you think using ALL CAPS makes your argument stronger or is it that you yell at anyone who disagrees with you? Moving on, I have studied ALL THE EVIDENCE. I don’t think that is possible. However, I have reviewed all of the evidence that has been presented by Dr. Taitz, which, unfortunately for her, is damned little, actually non-existent. She consistently misapplies the laws and misstates (or makes up) the facts. However, as I said in my original post, let’s have three retired Cal. Supreme Court justices hear her evidence – loser pays. If she, and you, are so confident that ALL THE EVIDENCE will prove your case, let’s get in on.

    Seventh, as I stated above, my faith in the Constitution, to paraphrase Barbara Jordan, “is is, it is complete, it is total and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminuation, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution . . .” Who the fuck are you to say that you hope to see President Obama . . . before a firing squad along with a whole bunch who are doing their best to stop this issue? President Obama was elected by a majority of the voters and he took office legally. You are a complete embarrassment as an American and a human being.

    6. Mr. PV: Ah, again ad hominem attacks –Howard the coward says the one who fails to put his name on the posting. I think that sufficiently addresses that issue. As to your second point, it being customary to attempt to schedule a mutually agreeable date with the other side and your claim that the other side does not return calls. That generally is what happens when you treat the other side as criminals, why should they make life easy for you? As to your last point, I am unclear – are you challenging me to a duel? If so, it does not speak highly of your confidence in your arguments or ALL THE EVIDENCE that you immediately turn to threats of violence.

    7. Dr. Taitz: I am not a member of the ABA. But, as I noted above, all it requires is payment of a fee.

    8. e. scott: No, I am not attempting to persuade you that I am smarter than Dr. Taitz. I would not waste my time attempting to persuade you that the sun rises in the east.

    9. Tommy, Tommy: Call me pedantic, but when you are attempting to be witty and make be out to be a fool by saying that I had too much to drink, it is probably better if your grammar and spelling are correct. “Howard is had a few to many tonight!” and “Howard has had a few to many tonight!” I guess spell checker and grammar checker only work if YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.

    Lastly, for those of you whom “accused” me of being a supporter of President Obama, I am not ashamed of having supported President Obama, I take great pride in that. You can wish and pray all you want for some magical evidence to go poof and appear, but I am confident that you are going to continue to lose – not that I believe any of you will ever abide by any verdict. After all, you KNOW the TRUTH, who needs facts.

  26. D.nason
    July 27th, 2011 @ 7:43 pm

    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third,

    it is accepted as being self-evident. …

  27. ihveit@aol.com
    July 27th, 2011 @ 8:53 pm

    dr taitz said “I am not providing any plans in advance. I will do whatever is necessary”

    very short and sweet lol they dont need to know anything in advance… especially some of the idiots here kissing up to obummer
    will

  28. hapnHal
    July 27th, 2011 @ 9:48 pm

    The Fuddy, Obama Connection!

    Obama Birth Certificate Released By White House
    (NOTE: Two Copies Released…second copy?)

    By: Rebecca Mocciaro
    Commented 3 months ago in Politics

    “Last Friday, the president himself wrote Loretta J. Fuddy, the director of health at the State of Hawaii, requesting “two certified copies of my original certificat

  29. hapnHal
    July 27th, 2011 @ 9:57 pm

    The Fuddy, Obama Connection

    (Note: Two Copies Released…second copy?)

    By: Rebecca Mocciaro
    Commented 3 months ago in Politics

    “”Last Friday, the president himself wrote Loretta J. Fuddy, the director of health at the State of Hawaii, requesting “two certified copies of my original certificat

  30. The Truth
    July 27th, 2011 @ 10:00 pm

    Howard, Delanger, and Larry Tate,
    ( Larry, Ho, and Derly )
    I have a simple question for you three geniuses, that I know none of you can answer honestly.

    Why would you NOT want this issue to come to a conclusion by putting everything on the table for the world to see?

    The emperor has NO clothes! Or haven’t you figured that out yet? Oh, and by the way, he doesn’t have a valid social security number or birth certificate either.

    If you took half as much time to learn the actual facts on this case, as you do lying to yourselves in the mirror every morning that you’re halfway intelligent, you may have a quarter of a clue when you’re finished, but I doubt it. You three idiots would rather attack and belittle a true patriot, who fights for something for all of us, past, present, and future. She fights tirelessly, righteously, and courageously for something that you three can’t handle….the simple truth.

    Now please slither back to your masters and report that your dopey tactics won’t work on this site. And besides, why would you waste your precious time following Orly so closely, when it seems you have a lot more work to do on those fools in the mirror.

    “The truth shall set you free…….unless you have committed multiple felonies.”

  31. Jeffrey Doobin
    July 27th, 2011 @ 10:28 pm

    You will do whatever is necessary?

    Will you smack a bitch?

  32. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    July 28th, 2011 @ 1:41 am

    are you insane? Any sane person understands, that “Whatever is necessary” by legal means, in the court of law

  33. Howard Appel
    July 28th, 2011 @ 4:22 am

    To “PV”, “The Truth,” et al:

    Why do I do this? It is obvious, George Soros and the liberalfascistcommiepinkosocialistislamicanti-american coalition pay me (and damn it, the check is late again).

    Also, it is “encouraging” to see those comments who suggest to Dr. Taitz that anything critical of her efforts be banned from the discussion. After all, it is so much easier to win a discussion when you don’t allow any contradicting or criticizing comments. And I don’t lie to myself in the mirror every morning that I am halfway intelligent, I do that in the evening. Mornings, I lie to myself in the mirror that I am the most handsome in the land.

    Actually, the reason I engage in this discussion is because I believe that in order to maintain our society as a constitutional democracy, with the freedoms to which we all aspire, it is one of our responsibilities as citizens to speak up. I hope you would have noticed that I have not criticized anyone for speaking up, even in opposition to my positions. I will not hesitate to disagree with your positions, but, unlike “PV,” “The Truth” and their fellow advocates of silencing those who dare to disagree with them, I unreservedly support your right to argue those positions.

    This is a major difference between, on the one hand, those persons such as “The Truth” and those who advocate a firing squad for persons with whom they disagree, and on the other hand, persons such as me who believe that all persons should be allowed to express themselves. “PV” and “The Truth” would silence anyone who disagrees with them, while I will argue for their right to advocate for their beliefs, despite the fact that I find such beliefs abhorrent.

    I leave it to each of you to decide which approach is a better testament to the Constitution and the rights for which we are supposed to fighting.

  34. William
    July 28th, 2011 @ 4:46 am

    Dr. Orly,

    The commenter mentioning “Helen Waite” is a sarcastic smear.

    Helen Waite = Hell in Wait.

    As used in an old credit joke: “Our customer service rep name is Helen Waite. If you wish to have credit at our store, please go to Helen Waite..”

    It simply shows the Communist Obama loving so called citizens are fractured as exposing their anointed one is not a matter of “if” but “when”, and that simply frightens them.

    Sincerely,

  35. hippybiker
    July 28th, 2011 @ 5:19 am

    Howard, thank you for your reasoned and very erudite comments on the subject. I, however take issue with some of what you said. Where is it stated by Hawaii that these two documents are actually authentic, and what experts have stated the same. I have searched and have seen nothing that would compel me to believe they are. If you can, please enlighten me on the subject. I don’t think that is to much to ask, do you?

    As an afterthought, my younger brother worked as a Lithographer for over twenty years and when he saw these documents he laughed and said:”Never trust anything you see like that because anyone who knows what they are doing can manipulate anything on a computer.”

  36. no obot
    July 28th, 2011 @ 5:32 am

    Howard i have some ocean front property in Arizona that i will sell you very cheap.Let me know if your interested.

  37. Ffolkes
    July 28th, 2011 @ 5:40 am

    Alot of armchair nothings that are jealous of your adhesive dedication. Go get em Orly.

  38. The Truth
    July 28th, 2011 @ 5:53 am

    Howard,
    It must take you a long time to put all those fancy sentences together and come up with all those funny things to say. Unfortunately, many of us don’t have the free time that you do, to write a book on every subject. And, my oh my, your punctuation and grammar are so nice. We stooped birfers hav a difucult tyme figerin thos thengs owt!
    I didn’t try to shut you up. I asked you a simple question that I knew you couldn’t answer “HONESTLY”. (Notice the parentheses and capitalization for emphasis, so you wouldn’t miss it again this time, and cover it up by avoiding it with a lame joke)
    Again, I’ll ask. Why would you NOT want this issue to come to a conclusion by laying everything on the table for the world to see?
    A simple question often stumps someone that tries to avoid the truth at all costs. If you meant that I tried to stop your free speech by asking you something you couldn’t answer, then I guess you may have a point after all.

  39. RacerJim
    July 28th, 2011 @ 5:57 am

    Howard,

    That you are not ashamed of having supported usuper Soetoro/Soebarkah/Obama – who almost from the day he was born has had an anti-America, anti-Capitalist, anti-Christian, anti-Constitution and anti-Caucasion chip on his shoulder – and take great pride in that tells me everything I need to know about you, and ain’t none of it postable herein.

  40. stormyweather
    July 28th, 2011 @ 7:33 am

    The obots are scared!

    Howard:

    “It is because I have such a strong and undying belief in the Constitution and our laws that I take the positions I do.” What a joke! Your undying belief in the Constitution is like Nobama’s, Non-existent!

    Go crawl back under your rock or up Soros’ a**. Either way is fine with me.

  41. Elizabeth Bentley
    July 28th, 2011 @ 7:37 am

    I think Walter likes the sound of his own voice! You will never convince us that Obama is anything but a communist plot, hammered out to destory the greatest Country on Earth. I would like to see your face, Walter, when Orly forces Hawaii to produces the birth certificate – andd it’s not therre!! Because there isn’t one!

    Nice try.

  42. Mike W.
    July 28th, 2011 @ 8:32 am

    If President Obama doesn’t have a valid SSN, how is it he and Michelle have filed their tax returns which have been publicly available for several years?

  43. Yephora
    July 28th, 2011 @ 8:50 am

    #42 – Since anyone can *file* a tax return, the better question should be put to the SSA and the IRS: how come you are letting someone get away with filing tax returns using a fraudulent Social Security Number? And why aren’t you prosecuting?

  44. Cramdenton
    July 28th, 2011 @ 9:30 am

    Shhhhhhhhhhhh. They hate it when people use facts and logic, Mike.

  45. CanuckYank
    July 28th, 2011 @ 9:30 am

    To Howard:

    Your lengthy defensive statements for Obama are fascinating, particularly your fanatical delight in having voted for him even in the face of today’s shambolic state of our once great country. (Don’t even THINK about blaming Bush for the situation, that particular record is way worn out from having been played so many times already.)

    You conveniently ignore several conventional, long established truths:
    (1) “Natural Born”, despite your wishes otherwise, HAS been historically defined as born on US soil to TWO US Citizens. “Native Born” has been used to describe anyone born on US Soil. “Naturalized Citizen” has been used to describe those, like myself who were NOT born on US soil, but who have elected to become US citizens by legal process.

    (2) NO president in US history has locked down his personal background as Obama did as soon as he was inaugurated. WHAT is he hiding and WHY is ANY US citizen not demanding release of that information? Particularly in light of Obama’s two faced statements about his being the most open administration in US history.

    (3) Orly has been completely open about what she has found during her investigations regarding the whole Social Security Number-Selective Service Registration conflict as well as the actual SS# and/or use of multiple numbers. It is patently prejudicial on your part to wholesale dismiss it all as not even being worth shining the public spotlight on it all, which is what you imply. Your biased position places the rest of your comments and arguments in serious doubt. The nonsense you propose about using some retired judges is just obfuscation – Orly is already pushing the issue through the mainstream legal system AGAINST ALL ODDS due to the corruption and blatant defense of Obama being perpetrated by the members of that legal system. Why don’t you expend your energies & expertise in promoting the PUBLIC airing of this very dirty laundry so it can be put to rest once and for all?

    (4) Why did ANY of you idealistic liberals actually support a man (and continue to rabidly do so) that so little was known about and whose victory speech included his commitment to “fundamentally change” this once great nation? It’s always amazed me how vociferously you people will promote/defend a minority person (ie non-Caucasian male), but ONLY if they meet YOUR profile. God help the minority person who is Conservative and doesn’t march in lock step with the liberal agenda.

    (5) And, lastly, PLEASE explain to us why oh why Obama and his defenders spend so much time, money and energy to maintain the cone of silence around this man, when:
    (a) We the People have the right to know who our President REALLY is (please remember the Dan Rather led bogus crusade against Bush using the forged National Guard document).
    (b) It creates an aura of wrong doing
    (c) It would be so much easier to just come clean, if there is nothing to hide.

  46. Don in Tennessee
    July 28th, 2011 @ 9:49 am

    For any that are interested, the Supreme Court decided that a Natural Born Citizen is someone born on American soil to two American citizen parents: See; Minor v. Happersett.

  47. Paul Jackson
    July 28th, 2011 @ 10:06 am

    “Yephora
    July 28th, 2011 @ 8:50 am

    #42 – Since anyone can *file* a tax return, the better question should be put to the SSA and the IRS: how come you are letting someone get away with filing tax returns using a fraudulent Social Security Number? And why aren’t you prosecuting?”

    What do you believe is the most probable answer to that question, Yephora?

  48. William
    July 28th, 2011 @ 11:46 am

    Paul Jackson

    July 28th, 2011 @ 10:06 am

    “Yephora
    July 28th, 2011 @ 8:50 am

    #42 – Since anyone can *file* a tax return, the better question should be put to the SSA and the IRS: how come you are letting someone get away with filing tax returns using a fraudulent Social Security Number? And why aren’t you prosecuting?”

    What do you believe is the most probable answer to that question, Yephora?

    The answer is most likely the same as the alternative question. Why are so many illegal aliens using fraudulent SS#’s and filing taxes and not caught by the IRS? Why do States such as Connecticut have over 20,000 SS#’s issued with the numbers all zero’s, 000-00-0000, and used for employment, Drivers License and Taxes, yet not caught?

    If you can explain that, then you most likely can explain 1 person such as Obama using the same tactic with the same problem.

    just food for your thoughts,

  49. Mike W.
    July 28th, 2011 @ 12:20 pm

    @ William #47

    Or you’re just flat out lying.

    Illegals do not file tax returns. They have taxes taken out and credited to whomever the SSN actually belongs to, but they do not FILE A RETURN.

    “Why do States such as Connecticut have over 20,000 SS#’s issued with the numbers all zero’s, 000-00-0000″

    They don’t YOU ARE LYING.

  50. William
    July 28th, 2011 @ 2:12 pm

    Mike W.,

    Either you are completely ignorant or highly uneducated.

    Point 1) you said…”Illegals do not file tax returns. They have taxes taken out and credited to whomever the SSN actually belongs to, but they do not FILE A RETURN.”

    Answer: If this (According to you) “NEVER” happens, then explain why some are caught, prosecuted and jailed? My advise to you, never say never and do your homework.

    Point 2) Pertaining to the issuance of SS numbers in the “Thousands” in all States used, utilizing the 000-00-000 numbers, again, do your homework before you post, least you appear as the ignorant fool you are. It is a “FACT” and available to you for some research of the problem. Again, don’t say it never happens, doesn’t happen…

    My suggestion to you Mike, is do your homework prior to calling someone a liar, least you present yourself as the ignorant fool you are.

    Just my suggestion to you, Take or leave it…

  51. The Truth
    July 28th, 2011 @ 2:55 pm

    CanuckYank,
    Way to go my friend. Your argument for the side of the righteous is the most well written and sensible that I have seen to date. Orly should post your response as a permanent fixture somewhere on her homepage, for all to read and think about before writing anything.

    Howard,
    We are still awaiting an answer to the question.
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh……………crickets!

  52. mike neenan
    July 29th, 2011 @ 10:26 am

    To Howard
    I’m glad you denounced the arrest and imprisonment of those you disagree with.I have never heard a conservative suggest that.I have heard suggestions of bringing the troops home so they can crush the tea party.I have 2 simple questions for you to answer: 1-What privacy concerns are there with a document that has already been released the the public and posted on whitehouse.gov? 2-Have you ever opened said file in adobe illustrator? I downloaded the trial version of illustrator to prove the lfbc was legit. I suggest you try it.
    mike neenan

  53. Howard Obama
    July 30th, 2011 @ 9:04 am

    Just Ignore Howard. He has some benefit one way or another from Obama. He speak paradox aim to discourage the weak. Try Allen West and Geert Wilders and the like.

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