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Please watch tomorrow on Discovery channel “Did mob kill JFK”

Posted on | December 19, 2009 | 10 Comments

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10 Responses to “Please watch tomorrow on Discovery channel “Did mob kill JFK””

  1. James Koslow
    December 20th, 2009 @ 4:22 am

    The mob conspiricy is one of the foremost and has significant interplay. However, I have a much wilder take as a possible reason/cause for JFK’s asassination. I was not a JFK political fan but did and still do consider him a real USA patriot.
    A person needs to look at Oswald’s Soviet connection but how this plays into the scenario has’nt been defined but we do know the Soviets were involved in shady international/diabolical actions.
    My thoughts start with the simple recollection that JFK had the backbone to have a few hundred million dollars of US Treasury notes printed. These were not Federal Reserve notes which are not really US citezen monies but instead are the monies of banks subject to the whims of powerful intrnational interests. These international interests could not stand by and let JFK’s honest-to-goodness USA dollars and financial framework upset the plans of the elite international interests and who was to bet JFK would’nt stop at a few hundred million dollars. So what’s the recourse/remedy?

  2. Ro
    December 20th, 2009 @ 7:16 am

    JFK had just signed an executive order to get rid of the Federal Reserve. The illuminati had him killed. Geo Bush SR is seen on you tube mentioning the demise of JFK and then proceeds with a sh*t eating grin on h is face.

    I also read that he himself (BushSR) may not have been a legal president. Look up George Scherer.

  3. redd
    December 20th, 2009 @ 8:11 am

    jfk was an early tiger woods. He crossed the chicago mob boss and brother bobby was puttin’ heat on. jack ruby says it all. oswald was the patsy who fired the shots.

  4. jcalhoun
    December 20th, 2009 @ 11:56 am

    why?

  5. Thomas
    December 21st, 2009 @ 12:02 pm

    Mr Koslow , I am also aware of what I think is your thought pattern , The Fed Reserve was created in 1913, also the same year income taxes were created, The fed reserve used to print a different statement on the currency , Also
    , as I have read President Woodrow Wilson stated upon his death bed that He had committed an act of treason against the U.S.A. by allowing the creation of the Federal Reserve because he then gave control of the U.S.A.’s economy to foreign Bankers & President Kennedy was trying to take America back to the gold standard !!!
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    All the roads lead to one conclusion !!!!!!!

  6. diane
    December 21st, 2009 @ 6:06 pm

    The answer is in the book, Iron Rose. Chapter 11.

  7. TurnRight
    December 21st, 2009 @ 7:35 pm

    The thought that the Soviets killed JFK was popular among some, as was the thought that the South Vietnamese did it to avenge the murder of the Diem brothers aproximately two weeks before JFK’s killing. But there wasn’t time for the South Vietnamese to put a plan together.

    Castro was thought by some to have been the precursor to JFK’s murder, but he wouldn’t have been involved since he knows his island would have been invaded post haste and all resistence crushed by the entire Second Marine Division and massive Army units. Besides, he was on a tight Soviet leash, which brings this around to Russia.

    The Russians wouldn’t have done it, nor would have allowed Castro to do it. Had we seriously thought they did, nuclear war could have been the result. It certainly would have started trouble in Europe. Things could have quickly gotten out of hand for both of us. They didn’t do it.

    “We” did.

  8. James Koslow
    December 22nd, 2009 @ 3:15 am

    I like discussion on this especially to the old phrase”follow the money”. If anyone doubts the strong possibility that a high super national cabal could not be involved in protecting it’s monetary control over the USA I refer them to what has been happening in the months of BHO’s being head honcho.
    It is nice to read comments of Thomas. There is so much info out about how the Warburg family in Germany were big time euro bankers(and don’t forget the Rothchilds who would support any war that kept their financial empires with power). The Warburg family weedled their way into USA finances(LOEB financial with marriage) to be the big promoter/gun for Wilson to create the Federal Reserve,the likes of which many POTUSA had fought against prior to Wilson.
    There are very powerful and clandestine people in this world above and beyond any POTUSA. As such I hold to my thoughts as to JFK’s asassination.Idon’t think of myself as a kook- being a WWII vet and a college engineering grad(from UofC,Berkely no less).

  9. TurnRight
    December 22nd, 2009 @ 11:38 pm

    The connection to international banking through a presidential executive order disbanding the Federal Reserve System would lead to inaccuracy. The FED was created in 1913 by an act of Congress, and is immune to executive orders. Too, the FED members are ratified every fourteen years by the Senate. The President appoints. The Senate ratifies.

    Please don’t blame the Russians at all for the Assassination. As is mentioned above they would be risking war, perhaps quickly escalating to nuclear if it were found out that they had killed our president. At a minimum it would probably have resulted in a perennial tit-for-tat, killing each other’s head of state. And Oswald was too ‘plainly involved’ with the Soviets for him to have actually been so. The Russians would never use a guy who trailed gun powder straight back to them. The whole Russian magazine would be blown up. Oswald had just enough ‘Russian’ in him to throw some suspicious parties off the scent. The same with Castro. Russia in a million years wouldn’t let a communist leader and important ally do such a stupid thing. If we were ready to go to war with Russia over the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, what do any suppose we would be willing to do in retaliation for their killing of our leader?

    Oswald was a patsy. And so too were the Russians. On surface the ‘paper trail’ seemed to lead to Russia through Oswald. But think about it, President Kennedy had signed NSAM… National Security Action Memo… 263. NSAM 263 was an Executive Order from on or before October 5, 1963 that ordered the withdrawal of 1000 troops from South Vietnam by the end of 1963. Kennedy had previously made it known through Stars And Stripes, the military newspaper, that he was withdrawing ALL U.S. troops from South Vietnam by the end of 1965, no matter what. The gig was up. There wasn’t going to be a war over there for us… not after 1965. No war. No arms and materiel profits. No oil in the South China Sea. No opium conversion into high priced CIA heroin in Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Vietnam. No nuthin’. And no 55,000 American deaths and two-hundred, fifty thousand wounded and countless tears here at home.

    Getting back, accusing Russia of killing Kennedy begs the question: Why would Russia kill the President, at the most nine months later, when he had virtually guaranteed Russian victory in South Vietnam by pulling out? As long as Kennedy remained alive and President of the United States the South would fall to the North by at the most the end of 1965. It doesn’t make sense that the Russians would plan and carry out the killing of the golden goose. China had become their great enemy behind the scenes. And North Vietnam was much more in the Russian camp than that of the Chinese, so to have all of Vietnam in their clutches was a prize to die for, not to throw away by killing the man who would give them this powerful thorn in China’s flesh and inadvertently help the Russians toward world hegemony. They didn’t kill Kennedy.

    Oswald was drawn to leftist thought and had studied Russian language when younger. This was probably the real Oswald… not a dangerous radical, a nut case many think him to have been. But something interesting happened along the way to produce strange feelings in him. When he was fifteen or sixteen Oswald joined the Louisiana Civil Air Patrol. The commander of the unit was David Ferrie, played by Joe Pesci in the movie “JFK”. Not sufficiently brought out in the movie, Ferrie was a pedophilic homosexual who was also brilliant and had a tremendous memory, demonstrated by his having Louisiana’s entire Napoleonic Code memorized. And he studied and practiced hypnosis.

    Ferrie had something that parts of the US government wanted and evidently often used. He was a terrific daredevil airplane pilot and had been the pilot of choice in clandestine combat and other tough situations. He was also an FBI agent during the Second World War, when the FBI had purview of the Western Hemisphere and the OSS the rest of the World, and was later a CIA agent at the agency’s creation in 1947 by President Truman. To say that he was ‘connected’ within clandestine circles is probably understating the case.

    These things weren’t just in Ferrie’s past. He was current in them. He drove one of the two getaway planes from Dallas down into Mexico after the Assassination. Looking back slightly from the Assassination into Ferrie’s past is revealing. Lee Harvey Oswald was in Ferrie’s small CAP unit. There are photos in Daniel Hopsicker’s incredibly interesting book “Barry And The Boys” of Oswald, with Ferrie also in the photo. This would have been around 1955 or ’56. Daniel Groden, in his impressive book on the Assassination, recounts the story of the staff of the mid 1970s House Committee To Investigate The Assassination Of JFK viewing an 8 mm film from 1960 or early 1961, found in the archives of George Washington University library. The film was used throughout the country to recruit fighters for the upcoming yet secret Bay Of Pigs invasion of Cuba. The film was made on location north of Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana, either on Carlos Marcello’s estate or next door. In it and clearly identifiable were Antonio Veciana Blanch, the founder and head of Alpha 66, the leading anti Castro expatriate organization; Clay Shaw and Guy Banister, who were both powerful CIA operatives; David Atlee Philips, the Mexico City CIA chief and soon to become the agency’s Director Of Western Hemisphere Operations; David Ferrie and Lee Oswald, soon to become patsy. The connection should be unmistakable. Oswald was working with Ferrie and with the CIA.

    But some may say that was just a ruse, that he was spying on the CIA’s activities and that Oswald was really a committed communist who’s real essence is shown by his defecting to Russia and returning to found the “Fair Play For Cuba Committee” and handing out leaflets in front of the office he rented in New Orleans. But the ruse is the reverse. Oswald’s office was on the same floor and around the hallway corner from the CIA’s New Orleans office, run by Guy Banister. They knew all about him. They ran him.

    But Oswald was also being run by Baron De Mohrenschildt, a Russian émigré from Kiev. De Mohrenschildt was a petroleum engineer who traveled the world, uncovering oil deposits. He also spied for the CIA on the countries he visited. When Oswald returned from the Soviet Union around 1960 de Mohenschild was assigned to befriend him. Oswald’s wife Marina was from Kiev, so the match up seemed a good one. It didn’t work out that way. There was a lot of trouble between Marina and Lee, and Marina and De Mohrenschildt. She came to this country expecting pie in the sky, which is understandable from the bleakness of Russia and the richness of the USA. Mary La Fontaine and her husband have a section in their marvelous book, “Oswald Talked”, on De Mohrenschildt and his relationship to the Oswalds.

    Having brought up Marina, now is a good time to ask a question that should set the tenor for all inquiries into whether Oswald acted alone or had the full force and effect of the security apparatus of the United States behind him in the lead-up to the Assassination, and against him at the completion.

    Is it even remotely possible that Lee Oswald, a defector who renounced his U.S. citizenship, and who possessed secret military radar operation information from his training as a Marine, could go to Russia at the height of the Cold War, marry the niece of a KGB colonel, live there for two years, bring her and their children to the U.S., set up shop in the CIA’s New Orleans office building and parade the streets handing out anti U.S. – pro Castro literature… and the U.S. State Department, the FBI, the CIA, along with the New Orleans POLICE don’t have a clue about who he was or what he had done? Absolutely… ABSOLUTELY… no way.

    Oswald was “Intelligence” from the get-go. At least two things beyond bringing the niece of a KGB colonel into the country unmolested after defecting with secrets, make this unmistakable. One is that on Oswald’s Marine Corps medical records is the entry from September 16th, 1958 (obviously before his defection), that he had been treated for gonorrhea contracted “In line of duty, not due to own misconduct”. The only way that can happen is if Oswald was a ‘spook’. Jim Marrs’ 1989 book “Crossfire” has a photo of the health record, as do others.

    A second thing was uncovered by the La Fontaines. At that time when an enlisted Marine was discharged from active service – Oswald didn’t defect until after his discharge – he received an ID card of a certain color and appearance. That kind of card could not be used for PX privileges or furtherance of active duty entitlements, such as health care. There were two exceptions to the kind of card issued. One was that retirees maintained PX and other privileges and entitlements, and received an ID card of a different appearance that indicated this. That same kind of card was issued to other than retirees when they were to remain in service to their country. The Marine Corps didn’t make mistakes. Oswald was issued this second kind of ID card. He remained in service to our country after his discharge and defection very shortly thereafter. Again… he was a ‘spook’.

    Oswald was becoming the absolutely perfect patsy. Led to believe he was helping Uncle Sam, he was set up for the kill. What remained was the opportunity to use him. He had probably been compromised by David Ferrie’s ‘attraction’ to him. He had succumbed to Ferrie’s recruitment into the intelligence world and De Mohrenschildt’s handling of him for the CIA after the agency brought him back from Russia. He had been groomed as a pro-communist ‘nut’ beyond his actual feelings of intellectual sympathy toward communism. And he was hypnotizable. It is difficult to believe that David Ferrie, as a pedophile and homosexual, wouldn’t have used his special powers over a boy of fifteen he was in close association with as his Air Patrol commander, through manhood to the age of twenty-three. That Ferrie was in contact with Oswald beyond training for the Bay Of Pigs Operation is illustrated by the fact that Oswald had Ferrie’s library card in his possession when Oswald was arrested in Dallas. Coupling this with the fact that on the evening before the Assassination, Ferrie drove through a severe rainstorm to get to Dallas from New Orleans… later saying he went to Dallas to go ice skating… probably to give Oswald a last session of hypnosis, the suspicion arises that Oswald was supposed to be ‘there’, wherever ‘there’ was, at noon on November 22, 1963. And ‘there’ turns out to be the lunch room of the Texas Schoolbook Depository.

    But could Oswald even have fired a weapon on that day? The answer is ‘NO!’ He was a stockroom person. He handled books and cardboard boxes as part of his job. The boxes would routinely leave traces of nitrates on his hands. Firing a rifle leaves large amounts of nitrate residue on a person. When the Dallas Police examined him for nitrate residue there was no more on his hands than is consistent with a person of his job classification… certainly not enough to indicate he had fired a weapon. And there was none found on his face and neck, an impossibility for someone firing a rifle, especially a bolt action three or four or more times. He didn’t shoot Kennedy. He didn’t shoot a rifle.

    And he didn’t shoot a pistol. Someone else did. Oswald was arrested for shooing Dallas Police Officer Tippit. But since Oswald didn’t later have excess nitrates on his hands he couldn’t have shot Tippit. Chuck Giancana, Sam’s brother, says in his book “Double Cross” that Sam told him what happened. Jack Ruby was running the Carousel Club in Dallas as Sam Giancana’s eyes and ears in Texas. Ruby was from Chicago and had a long history with the Chicago mob. Tippit was crooked and connected to the Chicago mob. When Tippit stopped Oswald on the street, Ruby was in the squad car with the officer. The plan was for Tippit to shoot Oswald on sight and clean up the mess that could explode since Oswald made it out of the Schoolbook Depository alive and could bring the whole Assassination down around all the guilty. At the last minute Tippit balked at shooting Oswald. Ruby then shot Tippit.

    Personally, I don’t understand why Ruby didn’t take Tippit’s gun and shoot Oswald, making Tippit a hero to law enforcement. But that’s the way Giancana tells it in his book. Perhaps Ruby tried to take Tippit’s revolver and shoot Oswald, and Tippit wouldn’t let him. But a quirky fact remains: Oswald was picked up with a .38 revolver in his possession. Tippit was shot with a .45 automatic. Different bullets. But… you know… details get in the way of a good cover-up, and the U.S. government had to have the cover-up succeed.

    And another thing about this shooting. The only eye witness to the actual event, a lady who happened to be across the street and down a little ways, described the shooter as someone who looked strikingly like heavier Jack Ruby, not almost diminutive Lee Oswald. But she was worked on by government agents and lawyers.

    Another thing that exonerates Oswald is that his prints weren’t found on the suspect rifle by the Dallas Police. He never handled the rifle. After he was in the morgue, over a day later, then his palm print was found on the carbine by the FBI, who obviously pressed his hand to the rifle stock after Oswald was in the morgue.

    So many things. Four casings were found at the ‘sniper’s nest’ on the sixth floor of the Depository, all laying side-by-side in a neat array. Now if you had just shot the President Of The United States, and were surrounded by a hostile public in a city known for its police intolerance, would you stick around to look for the empty brass scattered all over the place by the rifle’s action in ejection by the bolt, and then take the time to gather them and arrange them in a neat grouping on the floor? And one of the casings had a large dent at its shoulder, indicating it had jammed upon the bolt’s inserting it into the chamber. This means it would have to be re-chambered, requiring more time. And the frustration level rising from the event wouldn’t make for good following shots, especially the last shot… the head shot that would have to be perfect.

    And the rifle, with a wobbly scope mount! How was Oswald going to hit anything, when the FBI couldn’t duplicate what happened with the same rifle, using experts, which Oswald wasn’t. And the tree that for a time blocked the shooter’s sixth floor view of the car Kennedy was in. And the bullet fragments Governor Connally carried in his wrist, that when added to the ‘pristine’ bullet they were said by the government to have come from, resulted in a bullet weight much greater than an original factory bullet weighed. And the surgeon in charge of the operating team at Parkland Memorial Hospital the day Kennedy was shot, saying in his 1992 book after 29 years of silence that the head shot was from the front… the whole operating room staff concurring… and that he, and they, had been threatened into saying the shot was from the rear, supposedly where Oswald shot from. And a 30:06 ‘sabot’ round being found on the roof of the Texas Schoolbook Depository after the shooting. And the obscure, but identifiable images of others being on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting. And the fact that the sixth floor was one long room, with only pillars breaking up clear views of the entire floor by anyone inside the room. And Oswald’s being found in the lunch room on the second floor when police quickly… in approximately fifteen seconds… rushed into the building, supposedly having gotten down four flights of stairs past people without their notice on the only staircase there was in the building, with the elevators stuck at the fifth floor. And the people Oswald identified to police as having been seen by him, and who later confirmed their presence, on the first floor only short minutes before Oswald assumedly fired from the sixth, with the presidential motorcade five minutes behind schedule. And in a shocker… but keeping in mind the absence of finger and palm prints until after Oswald’s death and the absence of nitrate residue… former Dallas police chief Jesse Curry admitted in later years to newsmen that “We don’t have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle, and NEVER DID. Nobody’s yet been able to put him in that building with a gun in his hand.” (“Crossfire” – Jim Marrs – page 47)

    There’s more: Witness intimidation by the feds; juggling the time facts and the twisting of testimony into unrecognizable condition by the Warren Commission; untimely deaths of approximately three hundred people closely or even remotely involved, such as Dorothy Kilgalen’s murder one week after being the only person to ever interview Jack Ruby… and separately her best friend’s murder around the same time… someone she would have told what she found out from Ruby; the disappearance of Congressman Hale Boggs on a flight over Alaska after he was one of the two ‘No’ votes on the Warren Commission, believing there was a conspiracy; the Warren Commission itself, picked by President Johnson, which had as its second in command, and often its number one, the man Kennedy had fired as CIA chief and publicly disgraced two and a half years earlier… Allen Dulles… who insider Colonel Fletcher Prouty demonstrates intentionally caused the Bay Of Pigs invasion to fail, causing Kennedy to take the blame, which partly brought about Kennedy’s assassination.

    We have a shadow government. It’s a shame.

    So who done it? “We” wanted to go to war to kill communists. And like the ex CIA agent tells Daniel Hopsicker in an interview for “Barry And The Boys”: “You’ve got to understand what the mindset was… sure we’re gonna go after communists… but along the way we’re gonna steal all the gold and art.” But if there is no war, then there aren’t any dead communists; there isn’t any gold and art to steal; there isn’t any military buildup to profit from; there isn’t any extraction of South China Sea oil and there is no Southeast Asian dope to control and peddle.

    So who done it? It was an amalgam of the CIA – military – industrial complex, the mob (going after the Kennedy family and especially Bobby, who Johnson effectively clipped) and the Cuban expatriates who wrongly felt Kennedy caused the Bay Of Pigs invasion to fail. The FBI joined in after the fact and it’s obvious Johnson was in. Giancana says that Johnson and Nixon knew all about it from the start.

    And where was George Herbert Walker Bush? Bush was CIA all the way. He brought one of the Kennedy shooters, Felix Rodriguez, a Cuban post office employee and expert assassin for the Batista government into the CIA from Cuba in 1959 or ’60. Mark Lane says the two supply ships that were loaded and waiting to bring all the materiel to the invasion of Cuba, but didn’t, because the beachhead wasn’t held for 72 hours, were named the “Barbara” and the “Houston”. He must have been highly upset when higher-ups, blew the invasion on purpose, unknown to him.

    A live Castro making mischief around the world is worth many times a dead martyr. It’s the same with Bin Laden.

  10. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    December 23rd, 2009 @ 1:17 am

    interesting coincidense, the producer who did this documentary “did mob kill JFK” was hired by the NBC to do a documentary about me.
    I wonder if there will be any leads, considering Obama blowing cover of CIA agents doing interrogations in the Iraq and Afghanistan