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Judge England case: Emergency relief of the Temporary restraining order was not granted but the case goes on. Some of the statements by the judge are shocking, he de facto says that if one can steal a property with forged IDs and was not caught because nobody wanted to hear the case on the merits, then he can keep the stolen property scotts free forever!!!

Posted on | January 4, 2013 | 133 Comments

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Rich Pedroncelli / AP

Attorney Orly Taitz,  who filed suit to stop the counting of electoral votes, is greeted by supporters Gregory Kofman, center and Alexander Gofen, right, outside the Robert T. Mastui Federal Courthouse in Sacramento, Calif., Thursday, Jan. 3, 2013.  U.S. District Court Judge Morrison C. England said the case is unlikely to succeed and rejected Taitz’ petition for a restraining order to halt the counting of electoral votes scheduled for Friday.

We had a hearing yesterday before judge England Chief Judge of the U.S. district Court of the US.  Eastern District of California in Sacramento.

I had a problem with my flight, arrived late home after the hearing, did not sleep a night before and decided to wait till the morning to write a full report.

Bottom line, the case goes on, but the emergency relief was not granted.

US attorney conceded that if Obama is sued as a candidate, and not a federal employee, he  cannot be represented by the Department of Justice, he cannot be represented by the U.S. attorney’s office.

The arguments given by the defense were outrageous at best. AG of CA did not say much, most of the argument came from the US attorney.

There was media in the courtroom. Associated press reporter and photographer greeted me at the entrance and took pictures. AP reported that the courtroom was overflowing with people, was packed and most of the people were not Obama supporters. There were probably a total of a 100 people there. After the hearing people were shaking my hand, thanking me for the fight, while a number of people yelled out “mockery” as the judge was leaving the courtroom, indicating that the behavior of the judge was a mockery of justice. As I left the courtroom a large crowd gathered and people were applauding me and chanting and thanking for standing up to criminals and corruption.

US attorney stated at the hearing that there is no requirement for the US President to have a valid birth certificate and a valid selective service certificate and a valid Social Security number, that the U.S. Constitution does not state that the president is supposed to have valid papers.

The judge nodded and told me, indeed the U.S. Constitution does not require the US President to have valid IDs.

I responded to him that the U.S. Constitution does not require the President to have a pulse also. There is nothing in the U.S. constitution saying that the U.S. President is supposed to have any brain activity, however it is common sense to believe or at least hope that the U.S. President should have a pulse and a brain activity. Similarly the U.S. Constitution does not say that the birth certificate of the President should not be forged, however it is common sense to believe that if the President has to be a natural born citizen, he should have a valid birth certificate and not a computer generated forgery, that he would not be using a stolen Social Security number and a forged selective service certificate.

I stated that I provided him with a sworn affidavit of Jeffrey Stephen Coffman, former chief investigator of the special investigations unit of the US Coast Guard and a former special agent of the Department of the Homeland Security, who attested under penalty of perjury that Obama’s Selective Service certificate is an altered document, a forgery, for this reason alone Obama is not allowed to work in the executive branch, not as a President , not as a janitor in the White house. One is not allowed to work in the executive branch of the U.S. Government if he did not registered with the selective service.

The judge simply ignored this point, he could not care less and could not be bothered with something as unimportant as violation of law.

Then I raised the point of one and a half million invalid voter registrations In California, judge did not respond, could not care less about flagrant fraud in elections in CA.

I told him that my clients are Presidential electors and presidential candidates, he ignored that. I told him that Grinols is the elector for Romney, who came in second. the judge said: what don’t you understand about being second? I said that I do understand, that if one, who came in first, is using forged iDs and not qualified, then one who came in second, will be declared a winner. (I was thinking to myself, what a question, does the judge understand this simple concept?)

I told him that Obama posted his tax returns on line, did not flatten the pdf file, it showed him using a CT SSN, which was not assigned to him according to E-verify, the judge could not be bothered with something as insignificant as a US President using a stolen Social Security number.

He said that other judges dismissed my challenges and one judge sanctioned me.

I reminded him that when Thurgood Marshall fought for the civil rights of African Americans, a number of corrupt judges dismissed his cases time and again until he found one court that was willing to deal with segregation. If Thurgood Marshall would have been intimidated, we would have segregation until today. The judge lowered his head, he was holding his head with his hands, he was clearly following the marching orders from the regime and was deeply ashamed of it. A number of people later told me that they felt that the judge looked like he was ashamed of what he was doing.  I reminded the judge that Susan B. Anthony went to court after court and not only was sanctioned, she was tried and imprisoned. She spent time in prison for what was right. If she were to be intimidated and discouraged by one corrupt judge, women in this country would not have any rights up to today. The judge did not say anything, he was silent in regards to that.

I asked to allow me to put on the stand my witnesses: intelligence officer Pamela Barnett and   former employee of the National Security Agency, expert in typesetting, typewriting and computer graphics with 57 years of experience Paul Irey, who would testify that the alleged copy of Obama’s birth certificate is a computer generated forgery. The judge refused to allow witnesses to testify. I told the judge that yesterday his deputy wrote an e-mail, which I posted on line on my web site, it was seen by millions of people, where she stated that witnesses will be allowed to testify, I relied on this and brought witnesses. The courtroom is full of observers, who are anxious to hear witnesses testify.  It cost me a thousand dollars to pay for the air fair, hotel, $150 for production of exhibits, the judge said no. I told him that I am a civil rights pro bono attorney, that I made all this effort based on a permission given by him through his deputy only a day earlier, but he said no.

So all I could do, was to take out the exhibits, which were large, the media could see the exhibits thad I showed that the birth certificate was a clear forgery, that one cannot type something with a type writer and get letters of all different sizes and shapes and different fonts, it can be only done by a forger, cutting and pasting letters and words from different documents.

I showed him that it is impossible to have a white hallo around words if you only place a document on the green safety paper. this is possible only with computer manipulation, with an application called unsharp mask. I showed a birth certificate of Susan Nordyke and showed how Obama’s BC was out of sequence and that   the name of the registrar is different from the name of the registrar in Nordyke’s BC, which was signed during the same time. The judge did not care.

I provided him information that in Obama’s mother’s passport Obama is listed under the name Soebarkah, that Obama is not his legal name, the judge did not care.

I reminded him that he has affidavits from the law enforcement: Sheriff Arpaio, Investigator Zullo, Investigator Coffman, the judge did not care.

His last iron clad proof, as he took upon himself to act as an attorney for Obama, was that Obama lives in the White house, he is the president and this is the proof.

I told him that the fact that he was elected in 2008, when we did not have all the evidence, does not mean that he should be confirmed now, when we have all the evidence of forgery in his IDs. The judge said: “who lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue? President Obama, that means he is the president.”

Chief judge of the Eastern District of California is de facto saying: it is ok to be a thief and a forger, as long as you can forge and steal and not be caught because there isn’t one honest AG or Da or US attorney or a judge to compel production of the original documents and prosecute you for fraud, forgery and theft, then you can continue keeping the stolen property forever…

It seems that during Obama regime the only ones who get protection from the law are the criminals, the law abiding citizens are completely deprived of all of their rights, the only thing they have to protect them, is ammo. Just a year or two ago, during the Arab Spring, when people of the Middle Eastern Countries realised that they have no civil rights in their corrupt regimes, they revolted and threw off their dictators, corrupt judges on the take, corrupt law enforcement on the take with the rest of the regime. Without an honest judiciary I am afraid this will be happenning in this country in the near future.

I will request the audio tape and the transcript. I would appreciate donations to cover the cost of the transcript, travel and the cost of maitnaining these case and this fight. Previously I was quoted  very high fee for the transcript. I am posting the pleadings and the article from the local press, which is skewed.

Please, keep calling, faxing and writing the Supreme Court of the US, demand that Chief Justice John Roberts issue his ruling in Noonan et al v Obama asap

Grinols order, summons, TRO, complaint – Copy

Affidavit Jeffrey Stephen Coffman

No. 12A606
Title:
Edward Noonan, et al., Applicants
v.
Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State
Docketed:December 13, 2012
Lower Ct:Supreme Court of California
  Case Nos.:(S207078)
~~~Date~~~~~~~~~~Proceedings  and  Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dec 11 2012Application (12A606) for a stay, submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 13 2012Application (12A606) denied by Justice Kennedy.
Dec 26 2012Application (12A606) refiled and submitted to The Chief Justice.

~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioner:
Orly Taitz29839 Santa Margarita Pkwy(949) 683-5411
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA  92688
Party name: Edward Noonan, et al.
Attorneys for Respondent:
Kamala HarrisAttorney General(916) 445-9555
1300 I Street, Ste. 1740
Sacramento, CA  95814-2919
Party name: Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State

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133 Responses to “Judge England case: Emergency relief of the Temporary restraining order was not granted but the case goes on. Some of the statements by the judge are shocking, he de facto says that if one can steal a property with forged IDs and was not caught because nobody wanted to hear the case on the merits, then he can keep the stolen property scotts free forever!!!”

  1. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 4th, 2013 @ 5:11 am

    the problem is in rigged elections, we get a lot of corruption in state courts as well

  2. Greg Goss
    January 4th, 2013 @ 5:59 am

    The Constitution does require proper ID. Read the 20th amendment! How does a President elect prove his eligibility as stated in the 20th without proper paper work?

  3. Donna LS
    January 4th, 2013 @ 7:26 am

    *Barack’s NOT Rarack’s – - :-) :-)

  4. Kathy F
    January 4th, 2013 @ 8:43 am

    Isaiah 5:20: Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    Isaiah 5:23: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

    God Bless you for trying to get the truth be heard. It is only up to us to try, the rest is up to God. Stay strong.

    God Bless,

    Kathy

  5. Karl
    January 4th, 2013 @ 8:48 am

    So according to the Judges logic becuase Obama lives at the Whitehouse now he can be President forever, and the 2012 election was irrelevent.

  6. Monica
    January 4th, 2013 @ 8:53 am

    Is there not one Judge, Congressman Congresswoman etc. of moral character? And how can Justice Roberts even be assigned to a case where it’s a conflict of interest as he was appointed by him. He will no longer be a Justice if he ruled against him! We know how that case will turn out.
    This is a great article that sums up what we are up against, this needs to go VIRAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/egyptian-mag-affirms-brotherhood-infiltration-of-white-house-claims-6-american-muslims-have-strong-influence-on-u-s-policy-2528134.html

  7. LLW
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:26 am

    Ms. Taitz,

    Will you be posting the transcript of this particular hearing? I would like to read the argument of the US Attorney verbatim.

    It is simply outrageous for a US attorney to claim that a FEDERAL Employee does not need to have valid documents to secure a job with the US Government. All federal employees must show a valid birth certificate to be considered for a job. It is a national security issue. The US Constitution does not state that the President has to have valid papers, common sense tells you that this must be so.

    The arguments to keep the usurper in office are growing more ridiculous and offensive.

  8. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:28 am

    you can order it directly from the reporter or you can help paying the fee

  9. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:30 am

    have you ever seen such idiocy? I wonder if someone is writing a complaint of judicial misconduct

  10. Donny
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:35 am

    Yet another judge who has rolled over. I thought this time would be different. I saw the email you posted here from judge through his clerk where he said witnesses were going to be accepted by the court and their evidence allowed. This judge has wasted time and money and has lied too and the evidence is here on your site. He has shown he is complicit in this and needs to be named as a defendant or sued for what happened.

    By refusing to allow you what he had promised has revealed who he answers to.

  11. will
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:46 am

    ihv this is so sad a day for the usa as well as the world..

    its time people get sick of this sort of thing and DO SOMETHING..

    someone needs to investigate this judge,, check to see if his mortgage happened to be paid off.. check his bank accts… hell check in his drawers..

    but you are right .. i can see it coming where peopole will have to take the matter in their own hands and empty this country of legal crooks and thieves..

    even the judges and their staff are allowed to lie to you and nothing can be done about it.. no wonder there are back doors to the courthouses for these slime rats to excape..

    i need to quit i am so pissed of ..

    one day we will see revenge.

    thank you so much dr taitz for what you have done..

    and now how much does a plane ticket cost to a communist country? i would rether lieve WHERE I KNOW I HAVE NO RIGHTS then to believe i do.

  12. Ken B. (Fort Mill, SC)
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:46 am

    This judge is the epitome of stupidity. He sounds like some high school wanna be judge, basing the case on how he feels instead of the FACTS. What a complete buffoon, this judge.

    By the way, just because this judge was appointed by George Bush is irrelevant. George Bush was nothing more than a liberal, running under the republican ticket, calling himself a conservative.

    Nevertheless, this hearing was nothing more than a formality, just to buy more time, and to say that the court ruled, yet again, against Orly Taitz.

    Orly is the ONLY attorney with the guts to go after this IMPOSTER in the White House. I am blown away that there is no other attorney that is willing to stand with her and defeat this communist, muslin, and illegal alien usurper.

    Orly, THANKS FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. YOU ARE SIMPLY THE BEST!!!

    Persist Until You Succeed.

  13. will
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:49 am

    another case where judges need to be elected..
    will

  14. Veritas
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:54 am

    Meanwhile Drudge “Sandwiches” photos of Obama’s playing, frolicking, making merry in the surf of Hawaii (7million $+ of our tax money) with these headlines:

    TOP:

    DECEMBER JOBS ‘LACKLUSTER’…
    Rate for Blacks Rises Sharply…
    SCARIEST JOBS CHART EVER…
    11.5% For 18-29 Group…

    [ Here photos of a nonchalant Barak "Marie Antoinette" Obama having a grand ole time in the sun, eating, swimming, playing even more golf]

    BOTTOM:

    UNEMPLOYMENT UP TO 7.8%
    DEBT HITS $16,432,706,000,000.00
    ——————

    This is a photographic depiction of TRIUMPHALISM…In the Egyption press we read today that 7 members of the Muslim Brotherhood have infiltrated deep into the Administration and have unbridled policy influence.

    Judge England could have easily worked in 1930′s Berlin and rubberstamped Eva Braun’s tea parties at the BERGHOF, or in Romania rubberstamping Madame Ceaucescu’s purchase of countless fur coats.

    Despots LOVE official looking rubber stamps of their tyranny.

  15. Durwood Johnson
    January 4th, 2013 @ 9:56 am

    Dr. Orly Tait, Esq.,

    You did super fantastic in court yesterday, and the judge established the fact, that he is nothing but a dishonest fool, who resused to legally address any of your SOLID, BONA FIDE, AN UNREFUTED EVIDENCE.

    If there is any justice left here in the United States of America, that judge should necer be allowed to put on another black robe and sit in a judge’s chair in any courtroom here in America.

    Dr, it’s not that the judicial system is not aware of all your SOLID, BON FIDE, AND UNREFUTED EVIDENCE,

  16. Orly Non-Supporter
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:03 am

    I don’t understand you – so help me understand.

    First off, you bitched about not having access to due process. You have had it at least 20 times now. If EVERY JUDGE says you have no case, dammit, you have no case, pure and simple.

    Secondly, no attorney of repute would be as stupid as to post information, some of it confidential online. You are not trying a case in the court of public opinion – it’s in a legal system. What kind of lawyering is this?

    Third, what are you thinking, seriously? I’m not a judge, but your argument is so flawed. First, the judge is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT – your contentions are not covered by law. Think about this Ms. Taitz – you cannot sue your neighbor because you think that it’s illegal for him to have a picture of Eisenhower on his mantle. It’s not case law. To go after President Obama for not having things that are not contained within SETTLED LAW is stupid. You cannot sue anyone because you don’t like them personally, their color or the length of their fingernails IF IT’S NOT COVERED BY LAW. I read your brief – you actually want to bring up quotations you found on the internet that is not even federal, state or local law? But the opinion of someone? Get a grip.

    You’ll probably not read this and you probably will ignore it. But PLEASE give this up before you or your reputation are damage irreparably. In 4 years this cottage industry of hating the President will be over and he’ll be in retirement from public life. Your well is going to dry up and people will not give a damn about this issue in January of 2017. But you are putting at risk any future income and judicial activity. Did you know that people are working on having you barred from practicing law? I don’t agree with you on any one point, but you still have a right to support yourself and your family.

    In the words of my grandmother, “this dog won’t hunt.”

    I wonder if you’ll post this on your site? I doubt it. But prayerfully, consider dropping all of this and being the best Orly that I know you are capable of being. Everyone has a positive in their life somewhere. Why not chase the rainbow instead of groveling in the dirt?

  17. James Smith
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:04 am

    What would influence 100′s of judge’s to commit blatant in our face High Treason and Constitutional oath perjury by protecting obama a proven banker owned espionage imposter and illegal alien usurper Indonesian citizen british subject spy ,which by the way are all felony crimes. Why? For Who? What’s The Reward? Threats Or Coercion? I Wouldn’t Trade my name and subject myself to a neck snapping traitor hanging party unless the Threat from the white house infiltrated foreign federal usurped government is so heinous in retaliation like “mass murdering little children again, VX gassing or nuking a community or city, EMP’s, or any other sick twisted psychopathic inclination ordered by “the new world order u.n communists one world government bankers”. Did these judges make a conscience decision to protect the American people from the lesser of the two evils, was it less for all these judges to actually perpetrate written overt acts of High Treason because otherwise all these judges are going to prison or worse, watch.

  18. W. Tynan Brown
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:06 am

    The Juage should be immediately charged with misprison of felony. Also, since Congress has all the unrebuted exhibits, Congress should immediate pass a joint concurrent resolution eclaring and certiying, that all Obamma executive aactions are null and void as a matter of law. Actually Congress has a sworn obligatiion to do just that it is in their oatth

  19. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:08 am

    clearly the word treason and corruption means nothing to you as an obama supporter. I will let others respond to you as I am busy preparing for the next fight with the criminal enterprise running this nation

  20. Thomas
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:33 am

    The Electoral College Count & Vote is Jan.6th I believe. The Sargeant at Arms has the AUTHORITY to Arrest ANYONE in Congress. Contact HIM!!!! When the Ballots begin to go to Obama/Soetoro have those Voting Arrested ON THE SPOT for High Treason!!!!
    Because that is what they are commiting by Voting for Obama/Soetoro…TREASON!!!!

  21. Rod Riddle
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:41 am

    Monica, Roberts was appointed by George W. Bush. The 2 appointments made by Soebarkah were the pair of devout Communists Kagan & Sotomayor.

  22. Maddy
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:44 am

    Dear Orly Non supporter. It’s painfully obvious that you have never had the displeasure of dealing with corrupt public officials, corrupt judges who are bought and paid for, corrupt lawyers (not all) and corrupt bureaucrats.

    When a person is inexperienced, naive, or just zombified, they walk in lock step with the rest of the sheep. What Orly is the recipient of has happened because of people like you who are alseep at the wheel of life. “chase the rainbow of life” ? What the heck are you smoking?

    You can have an opinion, obviously a stupid one at that, but typically one doesn’t just lecture somebody else without knowing from whence they speak. Your rant was an arrogant display of moronic blather.

    So go chase your rainbows and leave the real and hard work of ironing this country out for those who know that when the going gets tough, the tough get going, Dr. Taitz chutzpah defines that idom. Now go back to sleep you little sheeple.

  23. blackyb
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:47 am

    Just remember, these are the same types who gave our Lord to the cruicifiers and chose to spare a murderer. They will be judged for their lies and attempts at destroying this country. These people have learned the lession from milignant cancer cells who pretend to be good cells and destroy the body. The malignancy is their God and teacher.

  24. Publicizer
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:54 am

    Good to see the SacBee and local AP sent reporters.

    A press release was sent them in advance of the the hearing with the intent of publicizing the case. Unfortunately they didn’t explore the merits of the TRO in sufficient depth, but for those who could be made aware about this issue any notice is better than a complete media blackout on this issue.

  25. Darkhorse Patriot
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:56 am

    This overthrow has been planned for years with it’s roots in Communism and Islam. In addition, they are using double-talk and reverse logic to neuter any opposition, including yours.

    Finally, our legal system is “null and void” to them because it is founded on mythology and slavery, which goes against the Laws of Nature, and many slaves came from Muslim countries, which is where their anti-colonialism ideas come from.

    Muslims can also deceive us because we are Khafir, aka “unclean”, so all actions against the United States are justified. Got it? Now move out smartly.

  26. Sandra Van
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:57 am

    I tell you what Orly you have more guts than 535 Congressmen and Senators do, as well as 50 Sec of States and 50 Gov’s. I am not sure what this country has come to but it isn’t good. I have been praying hard for your success, truly I have. I tell you this…you may have lost a lot of battles to the corrupt and bought off judicial system but I pray to God you WIN the WAR.

    Just this morning I listened to a video where a Lt. in the N.C. police dept said we will have Marshall Law in 45 to 90 days or less. Guess who will be at the helm to order it after some bogus national emergency is created or manifested by the usurper.

    On the following website: http://www.888webtoday.com was a wonderful article titled: (put the following in the Search Box: OBAMA’S OWN 2008 SENATE RESOLUTION DISQUALIFIES HIM FROM BEING U.S. PRESIDENT”….wow what an article he really did disqualify himself Orly…YOU NEED to READ this ARTICLE. This is a Conservative and Christian Online Daily News Resource site.

    It says bottom line: “It doesn’t matter if Obama was born in Hawaii. What does matter is that Obama Junior’s father, Obama Senior was not a U.S. citizen and thus rendering his son’s Presidential aspirations patently illegal. Furthermore, the Founding Fathers put the definition in writing from the defining documents of their day. Founding Father John Jay used the definition of “natural born Citizen” straight from “THE LAW OF NATIONS (Vattel) that states: “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are CITIZENS…”(Vattel in Book 1, Sec 212). Case closed Impeach Obama now.”

    Wow this is only part of the article PLEASE EVERYONE GO READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE PLEASE. You don’t need and ID to read it either. Go figure.

    So proud of you Orly you have courage, guts and lots of heart for America’s Constitution. You go girl God bless you.

  27. BOPE
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:05 am

    Orly Non-Supporter…

    Did you go to the hearing yesterday…

    That’s great and dandy you read what you read. It’s a little different when you are in the courtroom.

    However, to be undignified in a black robe and to make arguments that have no common sense is “inhumane to the constitution of the currently divided states”.

    We are all endowed to pursue life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. When our liberty is being trampled on do we not have a right to have the truth on our side?

    Again.. you bring up silly allegations about stuff on the internet but do not look at the data.

    Look at it. Look at it all.. That’s if we could get to the microfiche..He released a birth certificate …Why not release the orignial on microfiche that is with the state of HI..Why fight for 4 years to prevent the release…The dog is there but muzzled…

    We have to hear from the so call media about Hillary’s microclots every 5 min. to show justification why she can’t testify for Benghazi disaster of why over 200+ attempts to ask for help was denied…

    The media is unable to at least scrutinize and maybe try to attempt to investigate the data Orly has provided.

    To do so would be to admit there is some data. To do so would admit that the media has not done their job and they have aided and abetted the truth from the american people.

    Just like the fiscal cliff there is a traitor cliff..Same thing..

    You say the dog doesn’t hunt.. When the dog’s nose has been cut off.. Of course it can’t hunt. And when the dog’s eyes have been gouged it can’t see.. And when the dog’s ears are full of blood from being punch in the ears the dog can’t hear..

    Is that the justice we want in America? When it happens to you I don’t think you would want to experience it..

    What I witnessed yesterday and in other hearings I have attended is “corruption”.

    Signing off for now…Glad I’m in North America not at 19S 23E.

  28. Buster Hymen
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:10 am

    checkmate !

  29. Marie
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:11 am

    Orly, you and this country are in my prayers daily. If the Judges are being threatened, I can’t understand why they don’t come out and tell the public about what threats and who made them.

  30. Karl Wirnich
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:15 am

    Is their any recourse against a Judge that fails to excuse himself from a case because he is either connected or in some form is prevented from being impartial?

    Because it seems that in this situation the Judge himself was biased, and had already made up his mind even before evidence or arguments were presented. He even came out in the defense of Obama, slipping into the roll of defense attorney, according to this report and the audio transcripts should prove it. This in itself is a clear misuse of judicial position.

    Maybe part of what is need to be done in America is to take the battle straight at the corruption and get these corrupt judges thrown off the bench.

  31. e. scott
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:18 am

    Orly non-supporter–you should read “AGENDA 21.” It would open your eyes to the real world around you. (and how you will be living (?) in the future.)

  32. Sandra Van
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:24 am

    I also heard and read that if only ONE House of Representative and ONE Congressman/woman stands up at the time the electoral votes are being announced and they object to the votes being given to Obama because they question his validity to be president, then the voting has to STOP.

    So my next questions is who will the TWO be that will object out of the 535 and stop this insanity of a usurper who’s father was a British Citizen. According to a British Law in 1948 it say’s that any child born anywhere in the world to a British Citizen they will automatically inherit their fathers citizenship??? Plus in Obama’s own book “Dreams from my Father” he states that his father was a British Kenyan born subject.

    So, once again it doesn’t matter where in this world Barak Hussein Obama, Jr. was born. But it does matter here in America according to our Constitution and according to (Vattel in Book 1, Sec 212), and setting aside the far far leftist extremists.

    Amen to that.

  33. Davey Crockett
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:34 am

    Orly: I will write a complaint, if I know where it’s supposed to go!
    ……
    Also, Diane V (incognito as Orly Non-Supporter) you are possessed of evil. You couldn’t reason your way out of a paper bag! All supporters of this (Anti-christ) in the WH will pay a very severe price someday! These evil bastards aren’t kidding anyone. We know what’s going on. It’s just a matter of time before everyone will find out just what and who O is! Dr Orly, hang tough and pace yourself. Don’t allow this last situation to mess with your mind. We all know that you are NOT the problem! The problem(s) are: 1) Rigged elections.
    2) Voting machines.
    3) Brain-dead Voters.
    4) Those that don’t vote.
    5) Corruption, greed, illegal drugs, same-sex marriages, gay goofballs, abortion: all of which contributes to the evil we now see! Jefferson was right when he discussed how Americans have the right, duty to stop the treason from going anywhere! So, everyone stay strong, stock up on food, water, weapons, ammo, and let them take the first shot; then, we’ll be justified to defend ourselves in ANY WAY WE CAN! But we also need the intervention of God Almighty! Thanks, Orly, for your undying Patriotism! God Bless You! Keep PRAYING EVERYONE!

  34. Bruriah Sarah
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:40 am

    Dr. Taitz

    If the Judge could block the TRO then what could happen at the hearing for the full blown case? Ie, Would the judge block justice from occuring – for a technicality, ie, he is President – because it happens after the inauguration. Is there a way to relief? Can you appeal this decision? Or is that what you are working on?

  35. Devon
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:49 am

    It’s Officially OVER. The Congress has counted and Certified the vote FOR obama. NOT ONE member of Congress stood up and objected, NOT A ONE!!!

  36. Mike Hillebrant
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:51 am

    WND is reporting that today Judge Morrison England paid cash for $5.2 million, six-bedroom mansion in Carpinteria, CA.

  37. Devon
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:53 am

    Thomas, Wake up and get with the program!! The EC count was OFFICIALLY DONE in congress Today (it was all over CSPAN!!)with NO objections from anybody. Smooth sailing for this Prez.

  38. Davey Crockett
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:55 am

    @ Sandra Van: yes! I have that email, which Dr Alan Keyes states that O is waiting to lay on us the Martial Law! He said this back in 2009. And this email has Dr Keyes’ photo attached, as well. If those people this coming Sunday don’t stop the validation of votes, this will be our signal that we need to be prepared!

  39. Scott
    January 4th, 2013 @ 11:59 am

    The fact that the US Attorny said…
    “US attorney stated at the hearing that there is no requirement for the US President to have a valid birth certificate and a valid selective service certificate and a valid Social Security number, that the U.S. Constitution does not state that the president is supposed to have valid papers.”

    Is proof that Obama hs no valid papers. If he did those papers would have been provided to the Court and the case dismissed. Notice that they did not submit the forged Birth Certificate.

    The best way to Obama is a fraud, may be to somehow force HI to release the BC of the girl who was born the same day as Obama and died. They refused its release to her brother even though he meets all requirements to receive it. Obama is no doubt using the dead girls BC number as his own.

  40. Thomas F. Babson
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:01 pm

    Sorry, Sandra, the tally of the votes is over and there were no objections.

    Also, what’s the point of citing a British law? We don’t let the laws of foreign countries dictate who can serve as our President. Why don’t you find a U.S. law that makes Obama ineligible? No judge would be able to avoid that.

  41. John Martin
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:03 pm

    It appears that Judge England and Judge Carrol in Florida have the same marching order. Judge Carrol deemed it factual that if any one can be Santa Claus, Obama can be president.

    The decisions of Clowns in the Kangroo Court will not stand.

  42. Michael
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:11 pm

    To “Orly Non-Supporter”

    Your post

    I don’t understand you – so help me understand.

    First off, you bitched about not having access to due process. You have had it at least 20 times now.

    “If EVERY JUDGE says you have no case, dammit, you have no case, pure and simple.”

    If EVERY JUDGE violates their oath to support the United States Constitution…then she most certainly does have a case, and it is not so pure and simple. It’s corruption beyond the pale.

    Secondly, no attorney of repute would be as stupid as to post information, some of it confidential online. You are not trying a case in the court of public opinion – it’s in a legal system. What kind of lawyering is this?

    Third, what are you thinking, seriously? I’m not a judge, but your argument is so flawed.

    “First, the judge is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT – your contentions are not covered by law.”

    Think about this Ms. Taitz – you cannot sue your neighbor because you think that it’s illegal for him to have a picture of Eisenhower on his mantle.

    It’s not case law. To go after President Obama for not having things that are not contained within SETTLED LAW is stupid.

    That’s right…it’s not case law…it’s “Constitutional Law”….and if you ever take the time to read it, you will discover that it is also the Supreme law of the land and trumps all other law. Article VI. 2nd paragraph.

    You cannot sue anyone because you don’t like them personally, their color or the length of their fingernails IF IT’S NOT COVERED BY LAW.

    Her pleadings never mention length of hair or skin color. Why play the race card over and over? Why not just address the issues raised in the pleadings and affidavits?

    Can’t you come up with any refutable evidence?

    I read your brief – you actually want to bring up quotations you found on the internet that is not even federal, state or local law? But the opinion of someone? Get a grip.

    You’ll probably not read this and you probably will ignore it. But PLEASE give this up before you or your reputation are damage irreparably. In 4 years this cottage industry of hating the President will be over and he’ll be in retirement from public life. Your well is going to dry up and people will not give a damn about this issue in January of 2017. But you are putting at risk any future income and judicial activity. Did you know that people are working on having you barred from practicing law? I don’t agree with you on any one point, but you still have a right to support yourself and your family.

    In the words of my grandmother, “this dog won’t hunt.”

    I wonder if you’ll post this on your site? I doubt it. But prayerfully, consider dropping all of this and being the best Orly that I know you are capable of being. Everyone has a positive in their life somewhere. Why not chase the rainbow instead of groveling in the dirt?

  43. Harry
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:17 pm

    judges in America are apointed and belong to the good old boys club of crooked lawyers- they have all sold their solds for 30 pieces of silver and do what they are told-without concience- the people guarding America’s fredoms are more croked than the criminals they prosecute-

  44. Donna LS
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:24 pm

    Apologies for bringing this up AGAIN – - since Taitz supporters believe that Obama’s (or WHATEVER his legal name is) BC has been forged how can anyone say that Obama Sr. (which, by the way he was not known as) was Rarack’s ‘birth father’????? – - IF it was ever proven that, for instance, Davis was proven to be Barack’s birth father that would change the ‘citizen’ ruling – - BUT not change the fact of forged documents!!

  45. Antonio
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:25 pm

    Orly,
    I believe that if you want to keep fighting this battle, you must take it to the streets of America. I believe you must get out of court rooms. These people you are fighting against are not afraid of the law, they have showed you that already more than enough. They can dodge the law and step right over the Constitutional rights of the people. They truly believe the masses are stupid cattle and labor force they need to use in order to acquire more power. They will DESTROY America. The NWO has created a perfect system: fry our minds with material goods, technological toys, social networks and tv bullshit series. People will never give up what they believe is “high standard of living”. People are now convinced that there is nothing to do against the financial powers that are ruling the world and that the only solution is adapt by disconnecting from reality and accept THEIR reality. People don’t care about the Constitution or their sovereignty. People care about making enough money to be able to pay for the ridiculous fees of health care, education and house loans. People got to this point because the NWO BROUGHT them to this point. We work our ass off al day, we don’t even have time for our kids, we have no time to stop and think about what’s going on, we have no time for anything but making enough money to pay off our debts and our bills (and soon our taxes, that will rise). We have no time to participate and they like that, because it allows them to play us.

    Now. What do the NWO people fear? They don’t fear the law, they don’t fear the elections, THEY FEAR PEOPLE’S AWARENESS AND KNOWLEDGE. If you want to win this battle, you and your supporters must bring awareness to the people by stepping in the streets and literally HAND OUT and EXPLAIN FACE TO FACE all the information you acquired over the years. You need to create an official political independent party that will represent thousands, hundreds of thousands and will bring them to court against the fascists. Just what is doing the Council of Canadians (http://www.canadians.org/).
    This is the only way. You will lose in courts, you will win in the streets. Every revolution or freedom movement came DIRECTLY from the people IN THE STREETS, and then on the newspapers and eventually in court.
    Gandhi was a lawyer but he didn’t win in court, he won IN THE STREETS with the people behind him.

    If the people don’t rise their heads, we are all doomed or condemned to some very tough years to come.

  46. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:28 pm

    there is nothing like this on WND
    show me the link to the article

  47. Michael
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:29 pm

    Sorry, I accidentally posted before I finished editing my reply to Non-Supporter.

    Bottom line….Article VI. 3rd paragraph of the Constitution binds all Public Officials by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution.

    By not doing so, they are rebelling against the same and by default, pursuant to the Fourteenth Amendment section 3. they no longer are eligible to hold office.

  48. Itchik
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:35 pm

    Notice they never argued Obama has a birth certificate? Only that he doesn’t need one? They all know he is ineligible. Very crafty, these rat bastards. It’s all nuance – just like the auto-pen.

    According to this judge, ANYBODY who can get into the White House is the President. OH, OK… what a jackass. I guess if I can get into the operating room at the hospital, I’m a surgeon? Or if I get into the cockpit of a jetliner, I’m a pilot? Jackass!

    These smug and arrogant bastards think they have this all wrapped-up. They think they’ve finally threatened and bribed enough of our represenatives and judges that they control it all – they are wrong. They may control the pagentry of this dog and pony show, but they do not control the audience. This show is about to receive some very harsh reviews and these bad actors are going to wish it was only rotten tomatoes being thrown at them.

    Sic Semper Tyrannis!

  49. LarryO
    January 4th, 2013 @ 12:43 pm

    Sandra Van,
    As a God fearing American patriot, I am so thankful when I read a post such as yours. I thank the Lord that one more person has finally opened their eyes as to what is going on in this nation, but at the same time I want to scream at the top of my lungs. Where on earth have you been for the past five years? Everything you are saying is true, but please go share this information with the kool-aid drinkers that all around you. You are preaching to the choir now.
    And Dr. Taitz, thank you once again for going in our stead. Your efforts will be rewarded.

  50. Linda Steaveson
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:09 pm

    That genius judge has now set precedence for any forged document which comes before him to be disputed on the same grounds he’s upheld those of bho. We might as well be living in North Korea.

  51. Publicizer
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:10 pm

    Was the Electoral College reading today legal?

    According to 3USC15 a call for objections must be made. From another blog, none was heard on the telecast (although the audio dropped out a few seconds when it should have been made about 29 minutes in).

  52. Don in Tennessee
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:12 pm

    Michael January 4th, 2013 @ 12:11 pm
    //////////////////
    You are sooo wrong. I am an American citizen, Natural born with two citizen parents and born in the USA. I will still be concerned about a traitor being in the Whitehouse (Mr. obama) in 2017 and until I die. He is not qualified under the Constitution to be President and I will NEVER acknowledge him as such. Everything and anything he signs into law is Null and Void based on his ineligibility.

  53. BOPE
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:14 pm

    This is a link I found on the supreme court to contact them.

    Of course for expediting matters, they want you to write..

    I hope we all can email once a day until the oath of office…Better late than never!!!

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/contact/contactus.aspx

    This is what I wrote..

    Justice John Roberts,

    Can you please expedite the hearing of the Obama challenge Noonan et al v Bowen (Bowen is the Secretary of State of California)?

    Will you please expedite the hearing?

    If not, can you let us know why the data has no merit?

    As a citizen of the united states, I don’t think we have justice anymore. For some and not for others..

    I went to a hearing yesterday which seemed to show that a person who has the fidiciary duty to uphold the law actually violated the law with their conduct.

    One day people will accept the truth…

    Will there be any justice at 38N77W?

  54. Rod Riddle
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:26 pm

    There are 2 Judges in this Country who would take this case, allow every piece of evidence to be introduced and rule in an unbiased fashion on the merits. Those 2 Patriots are Richard Cebull of Montana & Roy Moore of Alabama.

  55. BOPE
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:26 pm

    One petition on whitehouse about Obama..

    1) We request that Obama be impeached for the following reasons. 48k signatures..

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-request-obama-be-impeached-following-reasons/cpk4V6zK

    I guess that’s our tax payer’s money at work…

    Do something without nothing in return…
    Busy work to keep us from doing the real work…

    Signing off for now!!! Better late than never..

  56. John Samic
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:32 pm

    I think its time to take matters into our own hand. We have a right to fight Tyranny.. the only problem is that the propaganda machine has dumbed down the people of this country and as long as they get their “checks” then who cares about the truth…
    Judges need to be put on notice if they continue to cover they may be endangering Our country (treason) and they will be accountable for this type of blatant disregard for the rule of law. I dont want to advocate violence but I do think that is the only way we are going to re take this country back from crooks.. Where are the Sons of Liberty when you need them…

  57. Anonymous
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:40 pm

    That MF(er) England is a liar and Obama is a squatter.

  58. blackyb
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:42 pm

    England is a liar and Obama is a squatter.

  59. Helpful
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:43 pm

    Orly, you are putting all these judges, reporters, pundits, and politicians on the record manifesting their corruption. That is a great job in itself.

    I think they will all end up paying a high price for their betrayal of the Constitution and their country.

  60. blackyb
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:43 pm

    Maybe some squatters will take up sqauatting on the England property who say they live there and have no ID or proof. Wonder how that would work. How did that fool get to be a judge?

  61. blackyb
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:44 pm

    He suckered Orly and witnesses to go there at great expense so he could use a purposeful suck up to Obama and gain some brownie points if they can ever get Joe Biden’s head out of Obama’s skinny arse.

  62. blackyb
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:46 pm

    Hey, Orly non-supporter: Fool, everything that has wings is not a butterfly. You all think you are cute treating this woman like this, but just remember….payback is hell. The tables WILL turn.

  63. blackyb
    January 4th, 2013 @ 1:48 pm

    Where are my posts?

  64. Mark
    January 4th, 2013 @ 2:09 pm

    I didn’t vote for a good reason and what this topic says justifies the corruption at all levels so why do we vote if we can’t get rid of the corruption? Well not voting is denying a candidate our vote entirely by default. It’s more patriotic to stand up and refuse to play along with treasonous citizens in Government.

    The last reason I gave up voting is I’m pissed off at what is happening and want to see that the members on Capitol HELL inclusive of the Justice Department end their careers soon either in Prison for a long time or sent to a distant rock somewhere in the middle of the ocean outside the United States and it’s territories. I don’t vote for treason. I don’t have to.

  65. observant
    January 4th, 2013 @ 2:14 pm

    So does this mean that possession of stolen property is now legal?

  66. Durwood Johnson
    January 4th, 2013 @ 2:29 pm

    Dear Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.,

    I just finished reading a lot of the above postings. Mostly the postings that critize what you are doing.

    Not one of the crititizers adressed you “SOLID, BONA FIDE, AND UNREFUTED EVIDENCE”.

    You know why, they can’t, they AINT’T got NUTTON to back their side up.

    You are 100% right in what you are doing, and the otherside has absolutely nothing to show in anyway, that any of your “EVIDENCE” is wrong, so most of them just reduce themselves to “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS”.

    Their “LOW CLASS NAME CALLING”, is so shallow and devoid of any substance, that they just come off as very Unamerican, dishonest fools.

    Yes, Doctor, at this time, with all the SOLID, BONA FIDE, AND UNREFUTED EVIDENCE that you have made readily available for everybody to see, read, and examine, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt the “WHAT’S HE NAME” is a complete “FRAUD”, a person has to be a complete “IDIOT” not to see that.

    I truly believe most if not all those “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS”, are fully aware of who and what “WHAT’S HIS NAME” is, which is a complete “FRAUD”.

  67. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 4th, 2013 @ 2:29 pm

    as an attorney I cannot condone violence

  68. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 4th, 2013 @ 2:30 pm

    I met Roy Moore in 2009, he did not want to do anything. I do not know anything about the other judge

  69. Durwood Johnson
    January 4th, 2013 @ 2:57 pm

    I now issue a challenge to all the “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS”, out there, to start posting facts to prove that Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq’s. “SOLID, BONA FIDE, AND UNREFUTED EVIDENCE” is wrong in anyway ahape or form, and if you can’t don’t you think that you owe the Doctor an apology?

    Just for a starter, why don’t some of you “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS” explain in detail how a Birth Certicate allegedly type-out on a typewriter in the summer of 1961 can contain a lot of different sizes and types characters.

    Remember this is 1961 we are talking about, so also explain how some of those charactere are “KERNED”.

    If you “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS” have managed to get past the size, shape, and KERNING issues, expalain why the sequence number is also in error.

    In 1961 the wore Negro was used, not African for the race section.

    Do you “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS” have anyway to explain why it’s okay for What’s His Name to be using a Connecticut issued Social Security Number, that was issued to a man that is now dead, and Social Security’s on E-Verify has gone on record stating that they never, ever issued that number to What’s His Name.

    If you “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS” can’t give good explaintions to all of the above, don’t you think it’s about time for you joined forces with Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. to help save America from being destroyed?

  70. American Fan of Orly
    January 4th, 2013 @ 2:59 pm

    Dr. Taitz,

    I want to congratulate you for your victory in Court yesterday; yes, not a legal victory, but a stunningly moral triumph against tyranny…when the Judge put his head in his hands, he confessed his own treason to the Constitution and to all moral integrity…

    By your heroic defense of law and order and the US Constitution you have more than any other lawyer and US citizen done more to fix forever in the historical record of the nation, the truth about Obama false idenity and the splendor of natural virtue of the truly free American citizen, which is more brilliant and marvelous in yourself, who are not even a NBC, but an immigrant…!

    Congratualtions… you have my eternal esteem…

  71. EqualjusticeI
    January 4th, 2013 @ 2:59 pm

    Dr.Taitz,
    This judge is no exception, once you get on the wrong side of the law you are no longer safe. You become a liability because you know…
    We your supporters sleep well at night. Thank you for all you do for us and our country, once a Republic .

  72. http://www.windowstablet8.co.uk
    January 4th, 2013 @ 3:02 pm

    I agree in part to this opinion, but maybe i need to
    think about it more

  73. Kate
    January 4th, 2013 @ 3:38 pm

    Non-supporter, it is painful to see how little you know. I hear that the current Fascist regime in DC pays shills like you to post on sites that aren’t with the party line. I am going to assume you get paid by the word and that is why you posted so many of them to say so little!

  74. AMJ
    January 4th, 2013 @ 3:55 pm

    NorthAmericanLawCenter.org

  75. Braulio
    January 4th, 2013 @ 4:03 pm

    The Trojan horse has penetrated our walls with many traitors’ help and we cannot wake up our own defenders, how much time we have left

  76. blackyb
    January 4th, 2013 @ 4:37 pm

    Judge England could have handled that better had there not been evidence. There was and he is a liar and will burn in hell for treating Justice like a pimp treats a whore.

  77. blackyb
    January 4th, 2013 @ 4:38 pm

    Judge England could have handled that better had there not been evidence. There was and he is a liar and will burn in hell for treating Justice like a pimp treats a whore.

  78. Mitt
    January 4th, 2013 @ 4:42 pm

    “Just remember, these are the same types who gave our Lord to the crucifiers and chose to spare a murderer. They will be judged for their lies and attempts at destroying this country. These people have learned the lession from milignant cancer cells who pretend to be good cells and destroy the body. The malignancy is their God and teacher.”

    Well put, if horribly, horribly spelled! The birthers ARE malignant cancer cells trying to destroy the body of the US and God will send them all to Hell.

  79. Extirpates
    January 4th, 2013 @ 5:23 pm

    Just shows you that titles and intelligence may have nothing in common.

    Kate the Obot [above] clearly displays her own ignorance by talking out her posterior aperture.

  80. Tess Tickle
    January 4th, 2013 @ 5:59 pm

    Keep the faith ! Never surrender !

  81. Durwood Johnson
    January 4th, 2013 @ 6:29 pm

    ATTENTION TO EVERYONE THAT HAS PROOF THAT THE DOCTOR IS WRONG IN ANYWAY, SHAPE, OR FORM:

    If I’m wrong in believing in what Dr. Orly Tait, Esq. is saying and doing, I want to know so ASAP.

    So if you have any “PROOF” what she is saying or doing is wrong, please post your proof, here on the Doctor’s Web-Site.

    “LOW CLASS NAME CALLING” has nothing to do with proof, so if you have any “PROOF” post it here ASAP, and please substain from any further “LOW CLASS NAME CALLING”.

  82. Durwood Johnson
    January 4th, 2013 @ 7:08 pm

    America, please “WAKE UP” can’t you see, since the that there just “AIN’T NO PROOF” that What’s His Name has a “LEGAL DOCUMENTATION” to be swatting in our “WHITE HOUSE”, he is a complete fraud.

    Birth Certificate, Social Security Number, Selective Service Registration, School Records, you name it they are all missing, or out and out forgeries.

    Why have most Americans failed to come to terms with this “GIANT FIASCO” being committed on/in our “ONCE GREAT NATION”

    This mess could be cleaned-up in a day, so why the delay?

    Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. knows the way just join her.

  83. Ed O,
    January 4th, 2013 @ 8:01 pm

    To Maddy, please don’t bother trying to explain things to “Orly Non-Supporter” because it’s obvious some UFO dropped him off on planet earth by mistake, when they realize their error they’ll be back to get him and take him to his designated place.

  84. Elizabeth
    January 4th, 2013 @ 8:24 pm

    Extirpates.. Kate is not an obot.

    Please re-read her post.

    Mitt.. good thing you are not an
    English teacher. There were two
    minor spelling errors: typing errors.

    By the way, the analogy of those who
    crucified Jesus in the past, and those
    who crucify patriots in the present,
    is certainly worth considering.

    You would have to be well-read in
    the scriptures, however, in order
    for you to grasp this concept.

    Furthermore, I did post a comment
    relating to the purchase of a mansion
    by the ‘judge’ and believe this is
    the pay-off for his unbelievable
    responses. I equated it with
    protection money as in the olden days
    with mobsters being paid protection
    money to not vandalize a business.

    The post has not made the board,
    and I can only assume it has been
    hi-jacked, since obscene posts make
    the board with alacrity.

    I ended this post with the statement
    that the judge has sold his soul to the
    devil and that “God will not care” when
    England’s day of reckoning is upon him.

    There was more .. but that is the essence
    of my observation.

  85. Davey Crockett
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:29 pm

    Orly: is this true what Devon says: that the Validation Electoral College votes were already counted on the 4th, this past Friday? Someone set us up, if that’s true?! And not one person stood up to challenge this? I counted 6 or 7 very conservative members of Congress, with email or fax! So I find this very hard to believe! So, maybe we could get some co
    nfirmation of this, which Devon has posted on? Can anyone verify that the counting was held (2) days EARLY?

  86. truthlover5
    January 4th, 2013 @ 10:29 pm

    Qualifications to be president:
    Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:

    No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President…”

    SO, how can JUDGE say Obama doesn’t have to have valid ID! How else do you prove legality? Might Connecticut claim Obama’s SS# use as fraud?

  87. rollo
    January 5th, 2013 @ 1:27 am

    Thank you very much Orly for all your attempts at bringing this truth to light. As a sane and rational man, and I could say scientist, all your evidence is quite clear, that obummer is at the heart of fraud and forgery, and anyone that disputes it, especially if they actually looked at the evidence, is only lying to themselves. To use your beautiful description, they are truly an obot, like the Orly non-supporter, to whom I would like to say that your master’s programming of you is complete. Like LLW said earlier the fact that the judge dismissed your arguments because obummer doesn’t have to prove his citizenship shows just how thoroughly justice is dead, not merely blind in this Nation. Until June of this year I was employed by the US gov, the executive branch no less, and I can assure you that I had to jump through hoops to get my position, including presenting my BC, SSN, filling out a lengthy background check/info, and providing my fingerprints, and this for a non secret/classified position. I am truly ashamed that our once great Nation has become so corrupt. Blessings and keep up the good work. Though neither you nor they know it at least half of the country is behind you.

  88. Chunk
    January 5th, 2013 @ 2:25 am

    Orly,

    I’m a direct, blood relative to the one and only judge who ruled in favor of Thurgood Marshall’s long fight for integration.

    This Chancellor’s ruling, at the state level, helped propel all the other losing cases, in other states, to the Supreme Court where the plaintiffs in Brown v. Board of Education won, making school integration mandatory.

    It only took one Judge, who was brought up by a widowed mother with no money, whose grandparents were Irish-Catholic immigrants and who was raised in one of the smallest states in the union, to be the first judge to rule in favor of school integration.

    He stated in later interviews, when questioned about his unpopular ruling, that he looked at the 14th amendment and thought, “Does it mean what it says?”. He visited both black schools and white schools, of his own accord, and saw the huge difference and how unfair it was and how waiting, even a couple of years to implement change in the black schools, would effect many students adversely. He also said He did what he knew was right.

    His ruling was made in spite of the fact that integration was very unpopular at that time, by both citizens and his colleagues. Along with that, his nomination from Vice-Chancellor to Chancellor was being voted on in the near future. He was only 34 at the time and such a controversial ruling, such as that, could have ended his career.

    But, he was eventually appointed to the U.S Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, where he served as Chief Justice until 1984. He’s been praised by many Supreme Court Justices, over the years, along with Thurgood Marshall himself. He’s included in every book written about school desegregation and is one of the most respected Circuit Court Judges, to date.

    The same can’t be said about all those other judges who were too afraid to make such a disfavored ruling on segregation.

    The difference between that one judge and all the judges that you have gone up against? He did what he knew was right, and he wasn’t a coward.

    History has a harsh memory. And years from now, when the country is in shambles and the entire truth about Obama has come out, Judge English’s children or grandchildren will be ashamed they were ever related to him.

    Because Judge English was a coward and did what he knew was wrong.

    Keep the faith, Orly!

    There has to be one judge left out there who has a backbone and refuses to sell his soul to the devil.

  89. cody
    January 5th, 2013 @ 5:47 am

    I

  90. Earl Gordon
    January 5th, 2013 @ 11:08 am

    Dear Dr. Orly Taitz,
    Why not just have a trial acusing Obama of using a fake S.S. number and false Selective Service card. With the proof you have, he would be condemmed and sentenced to prison, therefore making him a criminal and would not be elgible for the position of POTUS.

  91. illigit prez
    January 5th, 2013 @ 12:33 pm

    Orly, did you not admit to having no evidence to support your claims during your New Hampshire hearing last year? Why won’t you allow this omment to be posted?

  92. Anonymous
    January 5th, 2013 @ 1:11 pm

    @Durwood Johnson, you can’t prove a negative. Orly has the burden of proof. So far, she has not proven a thing. She does not have the President’s original birth certificate so she can’t prove that it is a forgery. It doesn’t matter what the Florida dude says. He can claim it is a forgery until the cows come home, but it won’t change a thing. Without the original, his assertions are useless.

  93. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 5th, 2013 @ 3:56 pm

    so, even using logic of obots like you, we should see the original, HI hass to produce the original

  94. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 5th, 2013 @ 3:57 pm

    clearly spoken by an obot. I produced there over 80 pages of exhibits full of evidence, which they had in front of them

  95. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 5th, 2013 @ 4:03 pm

    I am trying to do this, but we need one honest judge for this. This is like the Soviet Union, not one single judge shows integrity, we have judges following the same script and depriving us of all of our rights

  96. Dirty Harry
    January 5th, 2013 @ 4:06 pm

    Electoral vote counting was moved up two days just in case England ruled in our favor. Count the votes before he issues his order and its a fait accompli.

  97. Fred
    January 5th, 2013 @ 4:58 pm

    I’m no expert but I’m sure that the judge has the power to rule that count null and void. just has he ruled that it’s not in the constitution that the leader of the free world has to have a valid ID

  98. Barney
    January 5th, 2013 @ 6:37 pm

    The judge didn’t rule “that it’s not in the constitution that the leader of the free world has to have a valid ID”, Fred – that’s what the Constitution says.

  99. Bonn Jurr
    January 5th, 2013 @ 7:03 pm

    O Caaaa-na-da !

  100. gr8momkw1@gmail.com
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:31 pm

    Welll I looked up mr england and no wonder his decision was with Obama..he’s black. need anyone say anything more. He’s a racist obviously.

  101. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:41 pm

    I don’t think it has anything to do with color. we’ve seen plenty of white judges following the same marching orders and reading from the same script

  102. Bill F.
    January 6th, 2013 @ 2:59 am

    The Judge claims that the Constitution doesn’t require a valid birth certificate or any other valid identification documents.

    How does he believe the Constitution validates the 35 year minimum age requirement?

  103. Elizabeth
    January 6th, 2013 @ 9:48 am

    Bill.. good point.. I bet he forgot
    about that little requirement. He
    was too concerned with his next
    lie and how it would play out.

  104. Ro
    January 6th, 2013 @ 1:01 pm

    From the Weekly Standard June 2004 Actual story i have saved . Sorry the graphics did not print. I have many such articles.

    Home

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    Sunday, June 27, 2004

    Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
    ________________________________________
    Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
    The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.
    Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

    Barrack Obama

    “It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race,” Ryan, 44, said in a statement. “What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play.”
    Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was “truly outrageous” that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.
    The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.
    “I feel for him actually,” Obama told a Chicago TV station. “What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody.”
    The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.
    The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.
    “Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state,” she said.
    As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, “There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere.”

    —AP

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  105. Ro
    January 6th, 2013 @ 1:10 pm

    Maybe this works better:

    Graham over anti-white comment.
    Justice of the peace Keith Bardwell stands against miscegenation. »

    15
    Oct
    Kenyan Sunday Standard: Obama born in Kenya.
    In 2004, Kenya’s largest Sunday newspaper, the Sunday Standard touted Obama as a “Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful.”
    Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.” – Sunday Standard
    Obama was also touted as “African born,” by the media in Ghana when he visited that country recently. His grandmother has stated she witnessed Obama’s birth in Mombasa, Kenya.
    During a 2004 Senate debate, Alan Keyes stated that Obama was born in Kenya and was not a natural born citizen. Obama laughed and told Keyes that “only the president has to be a natural born citizen.” Obama did not deny being born in Kenya.

    • BOMBSHELL! Hawaiian Governor sealed Obama birth certificate!
    • Lou Dobbs: Where is the birth certificate?
    • Obama citizenship update.
    • Note from the webmaster on Obama citizenship.
    • Obama/DNC fail to provide birth certificate before 30 day time limit.

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  106. Ro
    January 6th, 2013 @ 1:25 pm

    And this: Affadavit of Bishop Ron McRae:
    http://mysite.verizon.net/vze10yt0q/id10.html

  107. Robert Morrissey
    January 6th, 2013 @ 3:41 pm

    What kind of third world Ameritopia have we become that we can’t even get to such a basic truth or that so few people care about? Hand over your papers, please. redacted

  108. Lefty
    January 6th, 2013 @ 5:00 pm

    Well, if Judge England says the constitution does not require a valid birth certificate, then John McCain sure wasted his time by digging his up and showing it.

  109. Stu
    January 7th, 2013 @ 4:27 am

    Reply to Davey Crockett….the date change was posted here as well as on many blogs and the vote on January 4th was on the news…. Check C-Span and read this…

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-florida-courts-say-that-if-anyone.html

    Mario Apuzzo, Esq. said…

    The date for Congress in joint session to count the electoral votes is fixed by law. Under 3 U.S.C. § 15, that date is January 6. Because January
    6, 2013 falls on a Sunday, Congress passed a Joint Resolution on December 18, 2012, moving the joint session date to January 4, 2013. See H.J. Res. 122, 112th Cong. (2012).

    Normally, when a legal deadline date falls on a weekend or legal holiday, the time is extended to the next business day. That would have made the Joint Session meeting date Monday, January 7, 2013. I’m sure that Congress felt that when it comes to Obama’s eligibility to be President, sooner was better than later and so made the date Friday, January 4, 2013, rather than Monday, January 7, 2013.

  110. Durwood Johnson
    January 7th, 2013 @ 8:57 am

    “ANY AND EVERBODY”

    Especially all you “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS”.

    That thinks even for one second that “WHAT’S HIS NAME”, who is presently swatting in our “WHITE HOUSE” has provided and/or made available “SOLID, BONA FIDE, AND UNREFUTED PROOF” for the American Public to see and analyzed if he is qualified to be swatting in our “WHITE HOUSE” are just being dihonest or complete fools, and in the process allowing our “ONCE GREAT NATION” to be destroyed.

    If any of you “OBOTS” reading this ave “SOLID, BONA FIDE, AND UNREFUTED EVIDENCE” to prove that “WHAT’S HIS NAME” is qualified to have any kind of “CIVIL SERVICE JOB OF ANY KIND” post that “EVIDENCE” here ASAP, so we all can see and analyze IT.

  111. Durwood Johnson
    January 7th, 2013 @ 8:57 am

    “ANY AND EVERBODY”

    Especially all you “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS”.

    That thinks even for one second that “WHAT’S HIS NAME”, who is presently swatting in our “WHITE HOUSE” has provided and/or made available “SOLID, BONA FIDE, AND UNREFUTED PROOF” for the American Public to see and analyzed if he is qualified to be swatting in our “WHITE HOUSE” are just being dihonest or complete fools, and in the process allowing our “ONCE GREAT NATION” to be destroyed.

    If any of you “OBOTS” reading this ave “SOLID, BONA FIDE, AND UNREFUTED EVIDENCE” to prove that “WHAT’S HIS NAME” is qualified to have any kind of “CIVIL SERVICE JOB OF ANY KIND” post that “EVIDENCE” here ASAP, so we all can see and analyze IT.

  112. OReaLY Factor
    January 7th, 2013 @ 12:22 pm

    Durwood – “low class name callers”? Kettle is holding for you on line two

  113. Durwood Johnson
    January 7th, 2013 @ 12:39 pm

    So far, no takers.

    AIN’T any of those “LOW CLASS NAME CALLERS”, that post here, on Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. Web-Site got no nothing to back up their idiotic contentions that “WHAT’S HIS NAME” even has a right to have any kind oF “CIVIL SERVICE JOB” let alone be “PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA”. Where their “PROOF”?

    The proof is in the pudding, and that pudding is “SOCIAL SECURITY’S E-VARIFY.”

    I guess the Obamaites, just AIN’T got no nothing to SUBSTANCIATE their side of this “ELIGIBILITY ISSUE” no how.

  114. Bobby O'Link
    January 7th, 2013 @ 1:53 pm
  115. Bobby O'Link
    January 7th, 2013 @ 4:07 pm

    (He won’t read it. It would upset his entire worldview.)

  116. Sharon
    January 7th, 2013 @ 4:22 pm

    What ever happened to the statement we taught our children at least my parents instilled it in me if you find something that is not yours it is not yours you have to give it back what the heck is happening to our system it is like little boys agruing over a toy .well it is like this I found some property(like a ss number) nobody claims it is mine that judge should have some conscious what a jerk

  117. Yoel
    January 7th, 2013 @ 5:55 pm

    Bobby O’Link = Nothing But Lies.

  118. Jack Armstrong
    January 7th, 2013 @ 10:06 pm

    If “WHAT’S HIS NAME” has valid certified documentation why in the world is he allowed this “ELIGIBILITY MESS”, to continue.

    “WHAT’S HIS NAME” could stop this whole “ELIGILIBILTY MESS” in one day if he really had the Vital Documentation this Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. claims he doesn’t have.

    The reason “WHAT’S HIS NAME” isn’t producing anything is because he AIN’T got “NONE”!

    America wake-up!

  119. Bobby O'Link
    January 8th, 2013 @ 8:50 am

    Didn’t even GLANCE at it, didja Noel.

  120. Bobby O'Link
    January 8th, 2013 @ 8:50 am

    Didn’t even GLANCE at it, didja Noel.

  121. Elizabeth
    January 8th, 2013 @ 1:02 pm

    I “glanced” at it.. worked my
    way down one page and still
    in awe at how the minds of
    Obama’s followers work.

    It defies logic.

  122. Bobby O'Link
    January 8th, 2013 @ 2:11 pm

    It’s true, as they say, Elizabeth, reality has a liberal bias.

  123. Elizabeth
    January 8th, 2013 @ 5:51 pm

    I have never heard that mantra,
    ‘reality has a liberal bias’

    but woe unto us, for indeed it is
    true. Our reality during these
    contemporary times, is that we
    are being led down the garden path
    to disaster by Obama, (666) and his
    minions.

    This reality has been in the planning
    stage for decades, and yet, the
    modern-day trojan horse entered into
    the land of the free, home of the brave.

    What will it take to bring reality
    into another dimension? Into a world
    where there is no corruption, no
    fanaticism, no treason from our government
    officials, no greed, deception, or betrayals
    in America?

    I know the answer; it isn’t one that
    an Obama follower would either understand
    or acknowledge.

  124. Yoel
    January 8th, 2013 @ 7:03 pm

    Bobby O’Link = Typical Obot. I’ve read the foolish links you posted. They contain nothing but twisted lies posted with the sole intent of deceiving the very simple minded, aka Obama supporters. End of story.

  125. Jack Armstrong
    January 8th, 2013 @ 9:01 pm

    Oh bye the way Bobby O’Link, the American Revelutionary War is a “REALALITY”, it really happened.

    Cliches are cute, but are they alway correct.

  126. Davey Crockett
    January 8th, 2013 @ 9:53 pm

    Ro: yes! That post is true! I posted this at least (2)x’s in the past. And also got the email from someone that stated O is trying to find a way to declare Martial Law! The only way this can be done…well, I don’t want to give that guy any ideas! But as Krauthammer has once said: “…don’t listen to what O says, but WATCH what he does!” That first part of my post was seen in my monthly publication of Newswatch Mag. back in Jan. 2010-? Keyes knows him well.

  127. Yoel
    January 9th, 2013 @ 1:58 am

    Davey Crockett – Stop fretting and repeating false rumors about martial law being imposed, it is not going to happen! Can’t you see that the martial law propaganda is being spread for no purpose other than to stifle dissent? If you feel like taking action, do so. The regime is much weaker than it appears and the vast majority of the military does not support “0.” Don’t even try “But what about the foreign troops in the USA?” That’s pure propaganda, too! MARTIAL LAW IS NOT COMING!

  128. Yoel
    January 9th, 2013 @ 2:11 am

    Davey Crockett – I’m a former employee of a “proprietary operation” and a relative in his 70s is employed in an upper echelon position at Langley. He says “Plans for implementing martial law are just rumors.” Unlike a lot of small media outlets which are just dying to be noticed, he does not lie.

  129. Glen
    January 9th, 2013 @ 6:49 am

    To Elizabeth and all thinking persons who want
    a future free of corruption from human rulership. The Holy Bible gives guidance and
    encourages us for a beautiful future.

    1 guidance: Psalm 146: 3 KJ version “Put not your trust in princes, not the son of man
    in whom there is no help”.

    Can human governments be trusted?

    2 solution: Daniel 2:44 “And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a
    kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people,
    but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms and it shall stand forever”.

    God has allowed human rulers to dominate for
    centuries. However, he is in control, his purpose will be completed and not a nation or
    group of nations can stop it.

    Result: Psalm 37:11 “but the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace”.

    The answer to our Prayers!!!!

    History has proven how God has removed world powers from their oppression of people, he
    can and will remove all wicked from existence.

    Something to think about and to heed his instruction for success and happiness of all humans.

    Glen

  130. Jack Armstrong
    January 9th, 2013 @ 10:14 am

    Bobby O’Link,

    Where’s your “SOLID, BONA FIDE, AND UNREFUTED EVIDENCE?

    You AIN’T got none right.

  131. Elizabeth
    January 9th, 2013 @ 10:15 am

    Glen,

    Yes, that was my focus,
    and what I meant in the
    last paragraph.

    We have read the final chapter.

  132. Davey Crockett
    January 9th, 2013 @ 6:49 pm

    @ Yoel: well, then, why did they install O in the first place? What is the overall significance of putting him in the WH, if the CIA is just putting out pablum for the public? How do you know that the top eschelon isn’t just putting out DISSINFORMATION to those in the lower eschelon(s) and to the public? Why didn’t you post these revealing statements earlier, when I and others have posted to (what we thought we should pay attenton to)? Who do you think created his persona? Who helped O during all those years? Why does O stop all those cases that Dr Orly takes to court? Why would he be so concerned as to spend our tax dollars in the millions to stop her efforts? Can you see just how this looks from someone who isn’t on the inside of the CIA? Why is O trying to bankrupt us, with spending 6-trillion in less than (4) years? Why is O trying to bankrupt us? Why does he want to help keep the treason going? Why doesn’t he come clean with all of his records, if it’s a hoax? Questions, questions! I won’t believe anyone in govt, since none of them have tried to raise a finger to stop all the treason Dr Orly and America has had to put up with…which includes elections fraud!!! Why did Pelosi lie on the certification of O, in 2008? Why didn’t the DOJ tell senators, congressmen, electors that they were going to represent them at this recent court case Dr Orly brought before another (Judge ROY BEAN) of the 18th century? Or have you forgotten all that?

  133. Davey Crockett
    January 9th, 2013 @ 8:18 pm

    Yoel: and…with your statements on my being wrong and just fretting about something that is NOT going to happen, how do you reconcile the fact that Dr Alan Keyes discussed this very subject of Martial Law way back in 2009, and also included in his discussion was O, whom Dr Keyes says he’s just waiting for the right time to declare this (MAD-Hatter) act of Martial Law for just about any reason? Are you calling Dr Keyes a liar? How do you think O continues to get away with just about anything, without being called in on the carpet for his decisions? Why was his friend, George Soros, involved with the SOS Project of left-leaning people who won’t count proper ballots? Etc., etc.! How do we know that someone you know in upper eschelon in the CIA telling you the truth, so as to keep the public from being prepared for this mass insanity? Since I don’t know you, I will have to wait and see! Your statements go against all the garbage Dr Orly and all of us have had to endure for over (4) years now. So… I hope you’re right. But time will tell.

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