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For the second time Princeton professor and historian, Steven Cohen, appears on National TV and states that Russia is not to blame in the current conflict in Ukraine

Posted on | July 20, 2014 | No Comments

Today, for the second time Princeton professor and a historian, Steven Cohen, repeated what Attorney Orly Taitz stated all along: Russia is not to blame in the current crises in Ukraine, this crises was started by Washington.

In regards to the downed plane Prof. Cohen stated to Zakaria that France and Germany supported Russian proposal to hold talks between the elected government of the  Ukrainian Donbas region, which declared independence from Ukraine and the president of Ukraine. President of Ukraine chose not to hold talks with the government of Donbas and chose to attack the brakeaway region with brutal force. US supported the President of Ukraine and instigated brutal force attack on the region.  As a result of the actions by the President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, according to Prof. Cohen, some 200,000 refugees left the area and moved to the nearby Russia. This created a humanitarian crisis in Russia. Moreover, several thousand were killed due to attacks by the Ukrainian military. US media did not report on this.

Prof. Cohen stated that the government of the brakeaway Donbas downed a number f the military planes of the Ukrainian army in order to stop slaughter of the people of the region. We do not know for sure who downed the MH 17 plane: it is possible that the government of Donbas republics of Lugansk and Donetsk ordered downing of the plane mistakenly believing that it was an Ukrainian military plane.

It is possible that Ukrainian army downed the plane. First, this would not be the first time Ukrainian army downs a civilian plane with a missile. Previously due to a mistake, while testing a missile system, Ukrainian army downed a plane with 78 people. Further, Ukraine uses Russian made Buk missiles. Even Wikipedia acknowledges that Ukraine is one of the nations-operators of Buk missile system. What’s more, Ukraine is now cornered as one one of its’ mechanized divisions counting some 5,000 people is completely surrounded by an army of Donetsk Republic and Ukraine is seeking an international support and pressure on Donetsk breakaway government in order to free some 5000 of its’ soldiers. Further, elected government of the breakaway Donetsk Republic announced that it is filing a criminal complaint with an intentional criminal tribunal against the Ukrainian government. Donetsk government alleges that Ukrainian government, which is supported by Washington, committed atrocities, repeatedly fired at residential areas, killed civilians, refused to allow humanitarian corridors to allow evacuation of civilians and wounded. Moreover, they allege that Donetsk republic leadership suggested cease fire in the area of the airplane crush and Ukraine allegedly refused and continued firing at individuals engaged in the search and rescue operations, in some areas using high capacity assault weapons.

Further, there is a video in Ukrainian language, prepared by the Ukrainian government, where two individuals of Donetsk army are supposedly talking about using a Buk  missile, however, this specific statement is missing from the video. Even without knowing Russian and Ukrainian, if the public listens to the video, the public would realize that there is silence between 4:34 and 4:54 minutes, when these individuals are supposedly saying that they used Buk missiles. It is not clear how this part of the video got erased, but there is clearly silence, nothing is said by the individuals while the subtitles in English are running, claiming that the individuals are supposedly talking about Buk missiles being fired.  Watch the clip below

https://youtu.be/YgdqdklrqDA

Today’s interview by Cohen was not posted on line yet, prior interview was posted on Breitbart and can be seen below.

Further, Cohen stated that Ukraine is divided and it is true.  Western Ukraine was always closer to Western Europe, it was a part of the Austro-Hungarian empire, many citizens are Catholic.

Eastern and Southern Ukraine used to be a part of the Russian empire and many are ethnic Russians and are Christian Orthodox.

Further, many Ukrainians, particularly in the Eastern Ukraine, are opposed to the EU and NATO, as they have seen retirement pensions, benefits and salaries going down in the countries joining EU. We’ve seen George Soros funding and fermenting this whole movement of Ukraine joining EU. We’ve seen Hunter Biden, Joe Biden’s son, becoming one of the board members  of the Ukrainian oil and gas company. Ukrainians are leery about people like a millionaire lobbyist Hunter Biden,   making millions; billionaires, like George Soros, making billions, while the whole nation becoming destitute and choking on massive debt.

Lastly, we, the United States of America,  supported self determination and secession of South Sudan from Sudan, Slovakia from Czechoslovakia, secession of multiple republics from Yugoslavia and from the Soviet Union. Why don’t we recognize the right to self determinations of the people of Eastern Ukraine who voted in an election and chose to secede from Ukraine?

Downing of a plane was a tragedy, no matter who made a mistake and hit the plane. this is a crisis. In my opinion, the only way to defuse the crisis in Ukraine, is for the government of Ukraine and the new government of Donbas region (Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk)_ to sit down with mediators and representatives of other countries and work out an agreement. If Ukrainian government doubts the results of Donbas referendum, which called for secession from Ukraine, maybe a new referendum with international observers will be needed.

I do not have a crystal ball but I believe that this crisis can only be defused by the direct negotiations.

Operators[edit]

  •  Azerbaijan[54]
  •  Bulgaria Buk M2 4 Devisions based in Plovdiv for AirDefence
  •  Belarus – 12 batteries[55]
  •  Egypt – Buk-M1 version[56]
  •  Finland – 3 batteries (18 firing units) – to be replaced[55]
  •  Georgia[57]
  •  India[58]
  •  North Korea[59]
  •  People’s Republic of China[60] – Improved variant as the HQ-16, a navalized VLS system. Joint People’s Republic of China/Russian project to upgrade the naval 9K37M1-2 system ‘Shtil’ (SA-N-12).
  •  Russia – more than 350 9К37 and 9К317, as of 2012[61] primary builder and constructor. Replacement of complexes 9К37 on the new options 9К317 [62] is planned, that by 2020 will be replaced by 70% complexes or more.[63][64]
  •  Syria[65][dead link] 8 complexes 9К317Э “Buk-M2E delivered from Russian Federation in 2011 (Stockholm International Peace Research Institute – Arms Transfers Database)Land Forces + 10/8[66] Buk-M2E Air Defence.[67] + 20 Buk-M1-2 [68]
  •  Ukraine [69]
  •  Vietnam – 06 Buk-M2E system (on order)[when?][citation needed]
  •  Venezuela – Buk-M2EK Received[74] (20 ordered).[75]

https://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/03/02/Princeton-Prof-Putin-Didn-t-Create-Crisis-Had-No-Choice-but-to-React

PRINCETON PROF. STEPHEN COHEN: PUTIN ‘DIDN’T CREATE’ CRISIS, ‘HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO REACT’

by  2 Mar 2014

On CNN, Fareed Zakaria interviewed Princeton and NYU professor Stephen Cohen about his article in The Nation this week in which he argues that Vladamir Putin is not the “neo-imperialist thug” he is accused of being.

Asked about Putin’s invasion of the Ukraine, Cohen said that Putin did not create the crisis and had no choice but to react. Cohen also said that next to Mikhail Gorbachev and possibly Boris Yeltsin, Putin was the least authoritarian Russian ruler in 400 years. The transcript of the interview follows:

Zakaria: Steve, you say that this guy is not the rank imperialist and rank dictator we see him as. Explain why he isn’t those things.

Cohen: Nor is he, as Secretary Albright and Professor Brzezinski suggested, “Hitler,” with their references to Munich. Putin is not a thug; he’s not a neo-Soviet imperialist who’s trying to recreate the Soviet Union; he’s not even anti-American. What he is is intensely, historically pro-Russian. He’s been in power fourteen years, and his mission is, as he sees it, and many Russians see it, [to] restore Russia from the disaster of 1991, the collapse of the Russian state. Remember, that was the second time in the 20th century the Russian state had collapsed, the first time in 1917. So to recreate the stability, prosperity, greatness, whatever that means in Russia at home, and in the process, restore Russia’s traditional zones of national security on its borders; that means Ukraine as well. He did not create this Ukrainian crisis; it was imposed on him, and he had no choice but to react. That’s [unintelligible] today.

Zakaria: You say he’s actually one of the most liberal rulers of Russia in its history.

Coehn: I wouldn’t put it that way, I mean, I wouldn’t use the word liberal. What I would say is if we view Putin in the context of the last 400 years of Russian history, with the exception of Gorbachev and possibly the first post-Soviet president Yeltsin, though there’s an argument there, Putin is the least authoritarian – let’s call him the most “soft” authoritarian, of Russian rulers in centuries. And by the way, in so far as it matters, because Jews, and the status of Jews in Russia, is often a barometer of how Russia rulership treats its society, Putin has been better for Russian Jews than any in Russian history, and if you want evidence of that, just ask Israel.

Zakaria: What about the new imperialism? Why should it be taken as a given that Russia should send troops into parts of Georgia, into parts of Ukraine, every time it feels it has been adversely affected? That does seem neo-imperialist, no?

Cohen: Fareed, we could argue this for hours. We could do the analogy. What if suddenly, Russian power showed up in Canada and Mexico, and provinces of Canada and Mexico said they were going to join Putin’s Eurasian economic union and maybe even his military bloc? Surely the American president would have to react as forcefully as Putin has. I don’t think if Canada wanted to start a trade relationship with Russia – I do not believe that the American president would want to send troops into Canada. But if it was a trade relationship that excluded preferential trade with the United States, it would certainly create a crisis.

But let’s get back to Ukraine. Brzezinski and Albright said, for example, that the current government in Kiev is legitimate. Putin says it’s not legitimate. I would argue that if you had on your show a panel of constitutional international lawyers, they would be hard-put to explain how a government which a week ago overthrew the entire Ukrainian constitutional order, deposed the elected president and has been passing anti-Russian legislation in Kiev, and which is at least partially controlled by very extremist forces in the streets, is legitimate. That would be hard to explain.

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