More work I do, more attacks I endure
Posted on | August 14, 2009 | 56 Comments
I don’t know what is the agenda of other attorneys, who pretend to fight the cause, but in reality sit on their butts, do absolutely nothing and only attack me and call me names, when I work 24/7 and represent over 170 plaintiffs.
Latest attack came from Leo Donofrio, who had his case dismissed in November, didn’t bring any more cases, doesn’t have any clients and together with Berg and Kreep, they are mostly engaged in attacking me.
When I started working with members of the military, he attacked me, claiming that I am colluding with the military against the president. Now he came up with some new garbage, claiming that I didn’t address the issue of Obama’s father’s citizenship. I urge anyone to read the actual pleadings that were posted on this blog previously. I’ve written time and again in my pleadings and I even put it in bold script “he has to be born in the country to two citizen parents”. WHICH PART OF TWO CITIZEN PARENTS DIDN’T DONOFRIO GET?
My parents, my husband and my three children are concerned about my health, WORKING 24/7 on cases, travelling around the country, bringing awareness to the issue, lobbying for our officials to uphold the constitution. Am I preventing above mentioned attorneys from doing that? Here is a million dollar question: “Why instead of doing something productive do they gang on me?”
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August 14th, 2009 @ 2:42 pm
Orly, a number of Article II-ers have defended you on Leo Donofrio’s site. We feel you two are on the same side and that infighting does us no good. Here is one of my posts from yesterday on http://www.naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com :
Harry H Says:
August 13, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Thanks to Whistleblower for the link to Orly’s interview in Israel, in which she tags all the bases–aren’t you proud of her, Leo?–and expands the dual-citizenship question into an issue of FOUR possible citizenships. Then she skillfully wonders whether these past and/or present divisions of allegiance might be affecting his policies and decisions.
Orly has been dissed as not coming across well, but she is out there plugging, and in Israel she did a superb job. Listen to it. She is no dodo, and there is absolutely, indisputably no question whose side she is on–ours! Don’t diminish her. Support her. I’ve sent her a small donation, and I’m proud of her for standing up tall to Obama’s fraud.
August 14th, 2009 @ 2:50 pm
they attack you because.like liberals,they fear you– their fear of you is that you stole their thunder,stole their noteriety,stole their public appearances– and in the end,its just their petty jealousy of your continued public noteriety and success,and your dogged determination towards justice.
August 14th, 2009 @ 2:54 pm
Take care of yourself, Orly. We need you to be at your best, so don’t let the force of denial get you down. Positive and negative are in a dance here. Aim for balance, have faith, and set priorities, including rest and family time. Affirmation will come in time.
Don’t give up on a favorable resolution, as Leo Donofrio seems to have done. I admire both you and Leo and wish both of you well in pursuing the truth.
August 14th, 2009 @ 2:57 pm
It sure makes one wonder.. WHY
August 14th, 2009 @ 3:13 pm
Orly,
No man likes to be shown up by a woman! You are doing a magnificent job and are such a wonderful American Patriot. Please don’t let them get to you. You and God know you are right. We the People know you for what you are and I for one can’t imagine the hardship this is on you and your family! I pray for you daily and with God on our side we will win this fight! Obama and his thugs are getting scared and when people like that get scared they start to make mistakes. We are winning just don’t forget that you don’t need these that attack you. That is such a cowardly thing to do. There may have been mistakes and I am not saying there were by any means, but everybody makes them. There are an awful lot of us out here who are BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY! WE LOVE YOU ORLY TAITZ AMERICAN PATRIOT!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 @ 3:14 pm
orly the problem is that this country and her people are so used to it works leave it alone, that they are brain washed into this pattern of complacency. you however are not satisfied with your country being destroyed because you have seen different, just as i have. i used to bathe on a stove and use a outhouse in sub zero weather as a youth. my mom had a bomb drop in her kitchen and destroy her home and the tanks rolled up and down her street in front of her home. my mom earned her citizenship by studying and passing her test on july 4th in order to be a citizen. we love our country and do not want vile no good evil money and people controlling tyrants making decisions for us, that is why it is so obvious to me and you that what is happening will lead to awful times for our nations people. so i know you are wore down and i know you are threatened and i always tell you i think of you as my hero. i pray for your strength to go on. so i am telling you her, that i personally wish only great things for you and that your efforts payoff for americas people and i will know that you gave it your all no matter the outcome and for this i personally thank you from my heart.
thank you
August 14th, 2009 @ 3:16 pm
I was pretty disgusted with his tearing you down. He should SHUT UP or join the fight!
Thank you for all you do, and please get some rest. I hope the time you spent with your family was peaceful and relaxing.
August 14th, 2009 @ 3:28 pm
DR. ORLY,
I read that and am sorry thes idiots are after you , but since sarah palin was attacked by the msms , they are now going after you for what ever reason. YOUR a great lady on whatyour doing , please continue to do what you are . sometimes you just need to be thick skinned and not listen to those idiots at all. please stay healthy you need that first and for most it is important. we all know that obama has hired all those to dish you on everythng that your doing we do not listen to it . maybe you should keep certian things off of the page so they do not know your next moves . just a thought . But we love ya lady liberty
thank you so much..
🙂
August 14th, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
Orly,
My heart aches for you and what misery you must endure. Be assured that this one person defends your efforts at every turn when I see anyone post negative comments toward you. I can only do so much as I am only one.
I don’t know how you have maintained your stregnth with all the adversity you have suffered by fools like Donofrio, et al. They are like you said, Johnny come lately. They have got nowhere with their minimal efforts. They have accomplished ZILCH! You are the ONLY Attorney and major player in this action to out Obama for his fraud.
I encourage and actually BEG each Patriot to denounce these fools who criticize Orly at every opportunity. When you see a comment on a blog, please stand up for all of the hard work and sacrifice that Orly has made in our behalf.
Orly, again know that your efforts are not going in vain. The ones who attack you are doing so out of their own failures. Look at the ones who attack you. Donofrio who can’t make up his mind if he wantsd to be a hippy of the 60’s or a poker player. By him being a professional wannabe poker player should prove to annyone that he lacks what it takes to be in the struggle to remove Obama. He needs to grow up and find himself in another arena.
Then there is Berg. He is a complete JOKE as a person. He has only been in for his Altered or inflated EGO and the money. Anytime he writes 2 sentences on his blog, he is finishing the sentence by begging more and more money from his useful idiots who still follow him. He has accomplished nothing in the courts.
Then you have the other minor league players like Kreep. They have nothing to offer and have not exerted one ounce of effort for this cause.
So Orly, you are the SOLE authority and leader in this struggle. it is you who have awoken so many of Obamas inelligibility. Without your hard work and dedication to our Constitution, most people would still have their head in the sand.
Thank you from the depth of my heart Orly for the sacrifices you have made. I pray God will bless your familiy abundantly for all of the suffering you have endured in our behalf.
You are the smartest, most articulate lady I have ever met. You have an enormous heart and love for each of us in whom you represent. Just remember, those that attack you are non factors. They are only trying to capture a moment worth of fame off of the grand works that you perform.
I promise to be a loyal friend to the end. I place all of my faith in you for resolving this Obama crisis. At the end of the day, it makes no difference to me the outcome. I will always know you were the ONLY Patriot and HERO in this struggle against darkness in Obama.
Thanks again Orly and May God Bless You and efforts.
August 14th, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
Endure! We support you and fight in different ways. Appeal the dismissal and move at the same time for unsealing of the decision so you can file a brief in 60 days following unsealing.
If you have the document in the photo it is self authenticating under the federal rules as it is more than 20 years old.
Contact the secret sertvice and request protection.
Feel free to contact me and i will give what advice and support I can.
August 14th, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
Jealousy has no friends. They wanted to be the berstiens and woodwards of this cause
August 14th, 2009 @ 4:14 pm
Orly : We the people of this great country are behind you 100% Please Ignore the attacks. and just proceed with the lawsuits. help these military personal . they need you so badly, they could be deployed, Our lives are at stake. We need you and we thank you for all your hard work, Please don’t give up on the common man. the Patriots. When the court dates and the judges decisions come down.I pray they come out in your favor. And we put an end to all this TREASONous activity that needs to be stopped. Obama needs to come clean.I think the Military is our last and real hope if the judges won’t hear us.
August 14th, 2009 @ 4:19 pm
To hell with them. Sounds like jealousy to me. You have gotten farther then they can ever dream too. Keep your chin up, and don’t pay attention to these people.
August 14th, 2009 @ 4:37 pm
orly,
a 2 cents answer to your million dollar question…
they gang up on you because you are doing the right thing, and they gave up when they lost. (i.e., you have the kahones they lack.) you, on the other hand, are determined and persistent because you are fighting not only for all of your clients (alan keyes, military and others), you are fighting for your family and your country. you are fighting to prevent what you have witnessed in the past; these guys (berg, donofrio, & anyone else on the attack) have only read about it.
i don’t understand why they don’t sign on and assist you, or at least sit back and keep their mouths shut; unless obama has gotten to them too. (not necessarily financially, but in the same way he has gotten to everyone who’s come up against him in the past.. using the acorn/seiu tactics and digging up something from their past & holding it over their heads; you know, chicago mob tactics. or, maybe they got the old horse’s head in their bed?) by demeaning you it almost seems like they are attempting to marginalize you.
don’t every forget that all of us “have your back.” some are working directly to help you; others of us might not have enough time to devote 100% (because we are working in other areas “fighting the fight”); but you still have our support and we do what we can to help you.
stay safe; try to destress often; and get plenty of rest when you can.
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:08 pm
I feel the no-blah-ma thugs got to them, either paid them off or they are being compensated in some way to attack you. Because of thier low life actions they are not patriots. Evidently they really dont care as much as the act. It simply is horrilbe for them to treat Orly this way if they have any intentions of exposing no-blah-ma. If they did they would join forces with her instead of treating her like crap. I have no use for Berg, kreep or donofrio. Dont care for joseph farah either of wnd. he is simply doing this to get rich off of billboard donations, sales of bumper stickers, tshirts, lawn signs and birthday post cards. I emailed him about his false efforts to expose No-blah-ma and he didnt even have the guts to reply.
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:09 pm
Orly,
I can not believe the behavior of attorneys who resort to such unprofessional conduct. And I should know because I was and Ethics Officer in my working days. Why don’t they offer constuctive comments and advice to advance the struggle rather than offer up cheap derision and criticism.
Have you contacted that document analyst I referred to you yet? In my considered opinion, it is the fastest way to nail down the authenticity of the Kenyan birth certificate.
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:16 pm
Orly, I have wondered too why the other attorneys have not been as energetic as you in going after Obama. I remember hearing Berg speak on Michael Savage’s show in Oct. 2008 prior to the election. I thought that he would find a way of making it happen. Instead he is stuck in the mud with his three cases and he attacks you. I don’t get it, but it would be nice if all of them would come together and make lawsuit that no court could deny.
God bless you and take a day or two to relax if you can. Our prayers are with you and with the other attorneys too.
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:16 pm
Orly,
I am going to write to Leo Donofrio. Please do take care of yourself. You are national treasure and national hero!
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
I’ve never understood why the various lawyers working on the eligibility cases don’t support and help each other. Perhaps that’s not how lawyers operate. Instead of saying “you did it wrong” it would be much better to voluntarily send helpful suggestions or to ask for peer reviews before filing a case.
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:30 pm
One word: Jealousy.
Ignore them. You have more integrity in your little finger than they do in their entire body. Donofrio wants to golf and gamble. He cannot be bothered with defending his country, and attacks those who care. He really does not get what is going on.
God bless you, Dr. Orly. Most of us are not at all fooled by his love to criticize from his golfcart.
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:33 pm
Orly, I just wrote this note to Leo.
Leo,
Shame on you….quit attacking Orly and help her. We can’t afford to have divided efforts at this point. If you don’t agree with her, then at the very least don’t attack her.
She has lived in a Communistic country, she understands what is happening and she also knows what it is like to live in this type of government. I believe this is where her passion comes from. I just wish we all valued our freedom as much as she does.
I read what you said about her when she brought military people into her cases. I do understand what you were saying, however, would you have us be taken over? Major Cook is willing to put his life on the line overseas and now even here at home….what a service to his country.
I find it very frustrating that I as an American Citizen have no right to sue for this information. So because of this, we have to rely on those that court would consider to have right.
I followed your case and was pulling for you and prayed for your safety the whole time. So, I prevail upon youself, to help Orly and if you can’t help, then please don’t attack her…leave her alone. Don’t you think she has enough of that? Don’t we all want the same thing?
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:57 pm
Orly, Please try not to get discouraged. We know how hard this is for you and your family. I went through a lot of it about 20 years ago when I tried to enter local politics. My family suffered and I gave up. Look what they have done to Sarah Palin and her family. You are getting more attention because you are doing things that are getting results. You have succeeded in bringing this into the mainstream. They are jealous and not willing to do the hard work it takes so they are bad mouthing you. Ignore them and trust in your father, God, to show you the way and give you the strength you need. He will. Think of Esther, Joshua, Joseph, Moses, and so many servants who went before you. God will surely bless you in the end. This is a very serious constitutional issue that, if not checked, could take America down a road of no return. I don’t believe that is in God’s plans. His people must trust him and do what is right, not what is popular.
Much love and prayers
August 14th, 2009 @ 5:57 pm
Orly:
I will answer that question for free because the answer is obvious, now listen:
Orly, during world war 2 in england every german spy was turned and ended up working for the british. The names of the most notable eligibility people named in your monologue above have been turned. How?
Well take creep for instance– how can you go around with a name like that?. He was screamimh=g bloody murder as he was asking for money saying that he was under attack and threatened by obama lawyers in saying to him that they would tie him up in court because of his frivolous suits–all this based on the plethora of judge decisisons handed down.
Isolate, contain and destroy–Obama has his attack dogs at all levels. THEY are attacking you because they want to cover their own asses Orly–nothingbelse say maybe berg who is part of the Hillary gambit. Hillary like Obama is adept at using other people to do dirty work and then maintain plausible denial.
Theyy were told to find ANT pretext to attack you. This Goebbells, lenin, Trotsky, Stalin Hitler Himmler, Obama, Emmanual, Nepalitano and they assorted rogue’s gallery in this bastard’s corner. THEY are the enemy Orly and they fight dirty–real dirty- Chicago ward 51 politics.
Sure you are getting warn out–Keyes is getting worn out–because neither of you have a proper platform and power base. keyes Independent party is mis named–because by definition it seeks to exclude–whereas my national Party USA would seek to include and use obama weapons against him–similar techniques by the way and those bastards are good at it.
You and keyes now realize that you can’t take well wishers to the bank no matter how palliative thier pleasantries and words of encouragement.
The smartest move you can make now as yuou recover from that asshole judge and hope carter will not be of the same kind is to SUE KEITH OLBERMAN AND MSNBC ORLY. He slandered you and cook. have your day in civil court and you will win the day and get good attendant publicity.
As for the people? well now Obama is complaining about the press nbot working with him–must be a love hate relationship and regular people are irate and at these town hall meetings. be careful adolph obama does not declare martial law because the militia movement is gathering steam and some surprising leadership is in their ranks–not a rag tag group.
They are harassing you and it is taking its toll obvious with your haggard expressions in anninterview after a long red eye flight I saw. You are saying things with the strength of the law behind you–they can’t attack you there-=-but they have former compatriots attack you because they have been threatened and turned as I mentioned above. What THEY are watching is the extent of your military following in a very disjointed and worn out army–tired of the rat race, being over extended, and dying and being wounded in a fruitless war in a country that will revert immediately we leave–BUSH’s folly it was, and neither he norcheny, wolferwitz, had a clue about Afghanistan, Pakistan ramifications when he stupidity attacked Iraq with bombs and bread and put TV cameras on Marine helmets–told oligath, oil freak ( His family own a large part of pennsoil and threw in thier portion which was baned Zapata Oil which dug the first wells in Kuwait. .
SUE Olberman the schmuck. and his network. that will smack the establishment backing barack the usurper in the back of the head and when he turns around kick him in the balls.
DO NOT retreat right now orly–you are not weak just tired and obviously are desperate NOT to lose ground you have gained.–go off with your husband foir a weekend–no cell phone, radio and TV–pretend the outside world does not exist–give your batteries a chance to charge–then come back and sue MSNBC for slander and character asssassination.
It is very bad when former fellow soldiers in this quest turn on you–that was orchestrated and it will be their ass if they do not assist the HUN.
Drive a golder legal spike up Olberman’s arse ORLY–ATTACK< ATTACK< ATTACK. lick your wounds AFTER the battle–you have that russian blood–(and JEWISH blood–even better) Hit this tin god in his balls.
You are like a power little settler , part of a tiny wagon train surrounded by whooping indians and flying arrows- then the little settler thorws off the canvass on his coverd wagon and there is a big shiny Gattling Gun—shoot for the heart without mercy, hesitation or compunction they are surely shooting for yours.
SUE OLBERMAN.
MP
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:08 pm
Dear Dr. Orly-I’m so glad your husband, your children and your parents are looking out for your health. We all know that you are working like a dog and have been since the beginning. Who knew it could go on this long? Anyway I saw you on your interviews, I have to tell you this does not show on your face you look fabulous. I loved the interview on Israeli TV when the reporter asked you questions and allowed you to answer without interruption very refreshing. You are making in-roads I think going internationally is very good. Every company I ever worked for was multi-national. Best wishes.
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:11 pm
The answer to your question, Orly, is because they are either jeaolous of your perseverence and probable victory when they were simply not tenacious enough… or … they have been “gotten too” by the Chicago “machine”. Or both…
Be strong. God says, “in your weakness, My strength is perfected.”
Kate~
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:19 pm
Dear Dr. Orly Taitz,
I think you justly pointed at the root of the problem when you wrote “…who pretend to fight the cause, but in reality sit on their butts, do absolutely nothing …”
Take Donofrio as an example he lost a case and gave up and went playing poker. Now it is not up to me to decide somebodies personal life but the man gave up and became a wise a.. who is hiding his own lack of stamina by attacking you who does continue, who does place the fate of our Country above everything else.
I have reading his latest attack and to be honest it sickend me, I haven’t published it either, as instead of trying be of some help our poker addict is questioning you in a to me unacceptable manner.
Believe me the betrayal blog stands behind you and many of the real patriot I know do likewise. It is about the Country and not like in some cases such as Donofrio about the Ego.
May God Bless You and your Family
David Crockett
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:32 pm
You are confronting evil, Orly, don’t give up!! There is a blessing coming for this country, and you are a part of it.
Blessings,
Craig
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:36 pm
Orly, you are the best! You are respected and loved by more true American patriots than these other two jealous attorneys could ever hope for! Keep up the good fight, be safe and God bless!
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:37 pm
Total respect for you, Orly. Wish there were more help for you. Your health is most important. Thanks for what your’re trying to do. Lies are a tough enemy.
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:41 pm
I am concerned about your health too. Your human body will not outlast the machine pitted against you. Listen to your husband, lose the laptop and cell phone for a weekend and recoup. If not for yourself then do it for your fellow Americans who need you, badly.
EVERYONE ELSE: time to contact Cheese-Berg and Donofritodorito and tell them to back the ef off. The lady needs a break and being attacked by those who SHOULD be allies (and suspiciously are not) is a flanking manuever. She could also use a few bucks.
IF YOU’RE NOT GOING TO FIGHT THEN BE UPRIGHT ABOUT IT AND PAY SOMEONE WHO IS.
I’m sending $20 tomorrow.
Dr. Taitz, by the power vested in me I hereby order you to submit to a nice dinner, some quiet time with your husband and a stiff drink!
And thank you.
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:44 pm
Hi Orly
First of all. I think you are doing a fantastic job. Please watch your own health.
The reason they could be attacking you is that they intended to lose their cases against Barrack Obama .
That way all along they could say they were fighting in court and no one else would need to try.
But along came Dr. Orly taitz esq. and upset their plans by trying to win her case.
Thats the way I see it.
Very Best Regards
Charles
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:46 pm
I agree. What’s their purpose? What’s their definite goal. Leo has and knows Cheif Justice Jay’s definition on ‘Naturual Borne’. Yet Leo just sits inept to stepping up. But he will point out every other commentor and attourny’s problem. Same with Corzi and Berg. What is the problem here? Natural Borne IS Natural Borne. Take it the bank.
Godspeed!
August 14th, 2009 @ 6:48 pm
dr orly .. there are a lots of idiots in this world.. and this case is bringing dome of them out into the open.. they want the prestige.. they want to win… AND THEY CANT.. they lose one case and give up thinking everyone else will fail.. they ahve become empty glasses
they attack you because they lost their way… dont pay attention to them.. they took a lots of money from people for nothing as far as i can see..
and please be carefull of others associated with them. i think you know who they are and i dont trust them at all..
god bless you for hanging in their..
will
August 14th, 2009 @ 7:23 pm
I am saddened by this. If they stood firmly grounded along with you and all of us wanting answers, what a formidable force you guys would all make!
August 14th, 2009 @ 8:14 pm
I got so sick and tired of Leo’s ranting and raving and just rude and hurtful comments to some of the bloggers, that I’ve stopped visiting his blog. He comes off as very articulate and knowledgeable at times, then at other times, he sounds like an immature spoiled brat who isn’t getting the attention he thinks he deserves. You’re right–instead of criticizing you publicly, if he is so smart, where is his new lawsuit? He has done some good research, but then spoils that with his hysteria. Keep doing what you’re doing, Orly. I think there is a lot of professional envy and jealousy out there. Makes me sick and surely must thrill obama and company!
August 14th, 2009 @ 8:20 pm
They are envious that you have more “intestial fortitude “and just plain Brass than they do. You see they didn’t have the balls to take it to Obama the way that you have they were in it most likely for the money/noteriety,not out of real passion for freedom and liberty as they have never experienced the loss nor the degredration as you have in your life Dr Taitz. That’s what seperate’s them form you. You are by far a BETTER PERSON and ATTORNEY than they could ever hope to be, they are more like an Ambulance Chaser, you’re not. You’r the real thing BABY!! (sorry about that didn’t mean to offend)
August 14th, 2009 @ 8:31 pm
Good question, Orly. Could it be jealousy? Why aren’t they offering their assistance? I’m sure there are many things they could do to help you, especially since they are attorneys. If they can’t do that, at least they can keep silent and not criticize.
Let’s face it…you’re beautiful; you’ve been on TV, radio and in Globe and other papers more times than they have been all put together; you have more plaintiffs and are far more exciting as an individual than those men. Because of that, you have more supporters, I’m sure.
They need to cast their pettiness and ego aside and face reality. United we stand in this effort; divided we fall. They could show that they are real men with integrity, courage and sacrifice if they would pitch in and help. At least let the rest of the world know that they are behind you 100%.
August 14th, 2009 @ 8:43 pm
Orly, I adore you and I will stand with you until the end! I am sick of all these freaking fair weather friends..Be safe and God Bless You and keep you.
You are a winner, they are all missing the goal post, and they need to pitch in to win! I dont know why they dont, but yet criticize you. Together we can all move mountains!
August 14th, 2009 @ 11:31 pm
Dear Dr. Orly-Please treat yourself to a little rest. If you have time have a deep tissue massage, it will help enormously. Your poor little body is probably and mess of knots and rigid as a board. This stuff does take a toll.
August 15th, 2009 @ 12:05 am
Be strong for us Orly, don’t let them Gang up on you!
August 15th, 2009 @ 12:15 am
Leo Donofrio is a jerk. I was talking about this issue long before Leo ever heard of it. He had to pull his law license out of mothballs to present his case. I have listened to all of his rants on the internet and it is very unlikely he even has a friend because he always insults people. Everything is all about Leo. If it isn’t his idea, he’s not interested. If he had all the answers how come SCOTUS threw out his case and then threw out Cort’s case which really was Leo’s 2nd chance. He was SOOOO sure he had all the answers and he had nothing. Then HE QUIT. Went back to his real profession of gambling. Don’t let that little TWIRP bother you Orly. He is a great big NOBODY. Hang in there Orly. We will get Obama. It is really starting to fall apart for him. God bless you for all you do. Eric
August 15th, 2009 @ 1:35 am
Maybe jealousy comes to mind. Someone told me today the higher you get up on the ladder the more criticism you will endure. I think that your high profile has attracted character assassins such as demonstrated during the recent msnbc debate by them introducing you as “The Queen of the Birthers.” Orly you have taken some serious risks and you are admired for that by people like myself who support you, but at the same time you are disliked to say the least by others who oppose you. At the end of the day who have to do what is right regardless of what your opponents think! Like all of us you have freedom of speech and expression on your side!
Best,
Lance
http://www.lanceforgovernor.com
August 15th, 2009 @ 2:52 am
Orly,
I was thinking maybe it wouldnt’ be a very good Idea to do TheYoungTurks
show, …I Went to TheYoungTurks Show on YouTube.
orly,
These are Very Bad People’!!
They have a Video Titled “Where Was The Birther Queen Orly Taitz Born?”…I BeliveThey just want to hurt you’. The Host is an Idiot’.
During the Video, the host (try’s) his best to belittle you.
Orly,
‘Please watch the Video so that you’ll know what your up against. I trully belive they only want you to do there show to hurt you ‘, to get you upset’ like cnn did so they can try” and make you look bad….any way here is the URL.
TheYoungTurks
August 05, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1rYWejLcn4
Also i want to say im sending you a Money Order, because i dont use banks and i dont have a credit card. Is this acceptable???
And if it is, in the ‘Pay to the Order’ Section, do i put this:
Defend Our Freedoms Foundation
account 23532-67227 B of A
I already have Purchessed the Money Order but i just want to make sure that i filled it out right,…i dont want you to have any hold ups in Depositing to your account.
‘GOD’ Bless You and Your Family for every thing you are doing for All of Us’.
I Pray that GOD’s Hand of Protection continue to be upon You and Your Family, I Pray
this in Jesus Christ’ Name…Amen +
Sally
August 15th, 2009 @ 2:59 am
What Leo Donofrio is doing is ridiculous. We have to stand together and fight together to win this battle. There is no room for jealousy and that is what this is, pure jealousy. We have to join hands and cheer one another on. And Dr. Taitz, I know you are working extremely hard with little rest. I have been praying for your health and for supernatural strength from the Holy Spirit of the Lord. I am also praying that you and your family are covered in the protective blood of Jesus Christ. Please read about Moses and his father in law. When Jethro saw how hard Moses was working, he told him, “You cannot do all of this by yourself.” He explained to Moses that he had to delegate responsiblities to others. The traveling and interviews need to be done by others also, that you have working with you. Those delegated by you will have to be strong speakers, able to quote the facts of this case quickly and knowledgeably. They have to have a strong and tough spirit like yours to endure the liberal lies and mockings. You need to do only the most important things like Jethro told Moses to do. Please pray about this and see what the Lord will have you do. You cannot do everything. You are as powerful as dynamite, but even dynamite can get wet and fizzle out. We don’t want that to happen. We desparately need your inteligence and your strength of character. Please know that I am doing my part as best as I can. I am writing to senators and congressman and even obama. Every email obama sends to me, I send to his “fishy” email address. His emails are the ones that are “fishy”. I will be sending you some money to help also. I know that sometimes you may feel like you are alone, but you are not. There are people at the tea parties and meetings who are giving our government officials the “what for.” They of course are being called nazi’s. Go figure. We love you and we are standing with you. Take care of yourself, please.
August 15th, 2009 @ 3:03 am
Mrs Taitz
You are really a fighter, but as a Jewish, what is your business, with the American affairs?
let them do their job .
You just increase antisemitism.
All over the history when a jewish lead a campain against the Goim in their home country it harmed all the jewish in the world.
be aware.
Love you
Avi
August 15th, 2009 @ 8:14 am
Orly, Phil promotes himself as the first to bring a suit against Obama, I don’t know much about Donofrio but I can assure you the work you are doing is hot. The important thing is to get rid of Obama because he is ineligible and to make sure that people quit overlooking the Constitution so much, but then, there is fame and glory here, too. There are pages in the history books. That is the thing that drives a lot of aggressive types where key ideas or works are involved. As much as a person doing the same work as you might share your goal, they want the glory and will be an obstacle to you hoping their work ultimately gets the recognition. This is all politics and part of the fame game that one sees in the arts and sciences, too. A lot of people are looking to you, I certainly am, and while your family suffers a bit and are concerned for you, at the level you are working it always takes that extra effort like you’ve been displaying. That kind of thing is very inspiring; you are inspiring. I believe you have your eyes set on the right thing where this nation is concerned and where freedom and the rule of law is concerned in western civilization. All I can do now is offer support and encouragement but you’re on to something big: you know it, Donofrio and Berg know it, everybody knows it. Now it is all about following through despite how so much more is forever needing to be done.
August 15th, 2009 @ 10:51 am
I do applaud Dr. Orly in the work she does. If these attorneys are so hell bent on getting Obama shown to be a fraud ,they should all get together and fight the fight. I believe Berg and Donofrio are just plants. If they were true attorney’s fighting for the people they would be hell bent on working the case brought forth. However, discrediting someone who is taking the fight farther then they shows they have no intentions of doing anything. I see Berg’s site has had no comments in months. If there are attorney’s out there who took an oath to preserve the constitution and truth they themselves would also be fighting. Our lives and freedom are on the line.
August 15th, 2009 @ 12:04 pm
Hi, Orly,
Please take some time off whenever you need to before you burn out.
It seems to me that one of your military cases will probably do the job on “Obama”.
Realize that these other attornies slamming and suing you are just helping “Obama” and strategically they are idiots.
I was particularly disgusted with “John Doe’s” ridiculous lawsuit against you. He was acting like a viscious 13 year old.
It is going to be a long hard fight and you need to spend relaxation time with your family. This “Obama” situation can not be solved overnight.
America needs you, Orly, as we seem to have nobody else with the cleverness of mind that you have to fight these rats in Washington (District of Crooks).
May God bless you and yours . . .
August 15th, 2009 @ 1:03 pm
DITTO to everything people say here and I pray for you and your family….Keep up the great fight and I wish I could do more to help you beside the prayers I offer up for your success!
August 15th, 2009 @ 3:11 pm
Orly!
Leo is a quitter.All he talks about is how there is nothing that can be done about Obastard.He is a gambler who is on a losing streak.That is why he is back to posting.You are the only one who keeps on going.I call you Timax you take a beating and keep on ticking.Phil Berg and the others are all talk and no action.Larry Sinclair proved that if you persist you will succeed.You have done more interviews than all the other lawyers combined.You will travel anywhere to fight your battle.Never give up you have the truth on your side.
August 15th, 2009 @ 4:10 pm
I like debra–she just loves and adores you as a woman of great intestinal fortitude, but all are missing the point—The other lawyers have been TURNED and threatened by the Obama Attack dogs.
Creep was crying like a baby recently–he did good work? YES! , but because of what is alleged to be frivolous suits by obama’s people because so many have been thrown out, theObama Attack dogs are threatening their law licenses and other attacks , most of all dragging them into court and draining their money reserves–this got creep scared and i think all the rest have been turned and thus attack Orly–
These things do not happen from jealousy –there is professional friction here and there, but not of this magnitude–you all must reralize that the Obama machine is veruy well funded with 24/7 fanatics including Soro’s move on, and now the new Colors of people—headed by another commie black who bragged about being a commie–well he got 75,000 signatured and pulled a jesse jerkson extortion on the sponsers of Beck’s show on the Fox network because beck called the white house rascists and it is!!! So Geico, the yellow bastards backed out with lawyers, inc, and two others off the beck show as advertisers but NOT leaving the FOX network.
Attacks on orly from bwerg is another gambit–Berg is hillary’s man and she uses this DEMOCRAT–get it? a demoncrat!!!!! to front her assault so she can have plasible deniability–plus I am sensing she is behind another attack of obama. ORLY is an independent agent NOT from the Political school of sustained and everlasting corruption and bullshit in our good ole USA. Because she is essentially funding herself, she is making inroads with her brilliant legal assault–inraods, even when losing, because she fights back constantly—if she had a power base–money and brave souls backing her with influence and power she would tip the obama ice burg into the ocean.
She is incorruptible and doggedly determined this is why we so revere her. But she is human and has a family and the bastard attack dog nut cases come at her–like a thousand armed indians surrounding a loney covered wagon on the prairie. She does not take any shit from anyone and says things no american would say to presdients and lawyers and media, etc.
The only thing I am advising her to do quickly and concentrate on this and hammer it home for it is more important that\n interviews right now and THAT IS TO SUE KEITH OLBERMAN AND MSNBC FOR SLANDER-\
that peiece of deluded dog dung called her a con woman–our distinguished, profession, honest and upfront orly–a con woman????
And Cook her client was called worse, putting the poor man on the defensive.
IF she sues Olberman and MSNBC she will seek money damages –she knows the routine, but the ramifications will pry things open–for there she will hit the lefty media moguls right in their collective gonads and will be given the opprtunity in a civil court well monitored for stating her case against Obama-our presidential error and piece of corroded dog shit–rascist bastard that he and his family and friends and fellow politicos are—-worst of all is our commie leftist press–they should be arrested for RICO violations-
MY FRIENDS–AND YOU ARE MY FRIENDS IF YOU CARE FOR OUR ORLWE ARE AT WAR–WE MUST THINK IN MORE ACTIVIST TERMS AND BEGIN TO ORGANIZE. ALSO REMEMBER ORLY IS A JEW AND THE JEWS HAVE MANY ENEMIES–WILL CONTACT THE JDL PERHAPS TO KEEP AN EYE ON HER.
There is going to be a bloody mess in this country soon. This garabage can obama will never leave–even if found gulity of treason—he will fight to the death– perhaps ours–perhaps his. BUT REST ASSURED, WE DECENT AND GOOD AVERGAE AMERICAN FOLK- THE ONES THAT FOUGHT THE GREAT WARS–WE HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR SHIT ANDI WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING–THEY ARE ASKING FOR IT– THE ENTIRE BUNCH OF THEM ARE CORRUPT BASTARDS AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT–A DISTINCT MINORITY ARE GOING TO GET CAUGHT UP IN A MASSIVE MAELSTROM OF REVOLT– AND THE DECENT SMART BLACKS? THEY WILL BE SUCKED INTO THE RASCIST VORTEX– THINK IT CAN’T HAPPEN HERE? WELL IT HAPPENED IN 1860—TINGS ARE GO8ING TO GET WORSE BEFORE THEY GET BETTER–YOU CANNOT RIGHT THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THE POWER GRABBERS AND POLITICAL SUCK ASSES ARE LIKE LAMPREYS ON SALMON–
OBAMA WAS THE BIGEST MUISTAKE EVER MADE IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA–AND SOMEHOW AND IN SOME WAY THIS PIECE OF COMMIE DOG SHIT HAS TO BE THROWN OUT IF HE WILL NOT STAND DOWN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE AND GO BACK TO THE COUNTRY ON HIS ELUSIVE PASSPORT-iNDONESIA
WHY SHOULD BE BE LIED TO BY THIS FRAUD AND WHY SHOULD THESE DAMNED JUDGES KEEP THROWING OUT CASES AS FRIVOLOUS , WITHOUT MERIT OR STANDING—WHAT IS THE COARSE NYC EXPRESSION: THEY ARE PISSING ON OUR LEG AND TELL US ITS RAINING–
RASCIST? BECK IS 200% RIGHT–THAT THEY ARE–
MY FRIENDS THERE ARE NOT ONE MILLION GUNS IN AMERICA, NOT 10, MILLION, NOT 100 MILLION, THERE ARE ABOUT A BILLION GUNS IN AMERICA AND THERE ARE NO BULLETS AVAILABLE IN WALMART FOR INSTANCE–GO CHECK– IT IS NOT BECAUSE OBAMA PEOPLE ARE CONTROLLING THIS–IT IS EBCAUSE THE MANUFACTURERS CAN’T KEEP UP WITH DEMAND– OBAMA AND HIS AGENTS KNOW THIS AND THEY ARE SHITTING IN THEIR COLLECTIVE JEANS–THAT IS WHY YOU ATRE HEARING SO MUCH TALK ABOUT INTERNAL FORCES AND TRAINED TROOPS TO CONTROL RIOTS OR HYSTERICaL STUPID STATEMENTS FROM NEPOLITANO ABOUT RETURNING TROOPS BEING RIGH WING EXTREMISTS LIKE TIMORTH MCVEIGH– WHOSSE ALMOST SUMMARY EXECUTION BROKE SOME KIND OF RECORD IN THIS COUNTRY.
I believe a march on the white house by retired military in uniform–in proud uniform and their families all in touchbwith every soildier who has a computer here and abroad, should occur and we should demand that Obama stand down, and go home to his country–really can there be any doubt at this stage that he is willing to kill everyone who disputes his validity and has his zombies working full time– if you see any acorn twits in your neighborhood throw eggs at them.
Listen, the orly machine–the last decent honest oen around along with Keyes is beginning to get tired–understand? she is only human–even the best of the best need a rest, but she in a one WO man show and really has no one to rely on at the helm if she decides to take a short vacation
Listen, nobody knows better than orly that this is the right time and moment–things are hit despite her set backs–she is a brave and able soldier true to herself and her quest. We have to commit in support of her and be prepared to take risks–otherwiseits like kissing someone before they go on to a boat off to war–kiss is nice, but bullets are better as a practical matter.
Orly MUST sue Olberman–he defamed and humiliated her professionalism–she has recourse she must take it and it will pry things open in a way that not even she suspects but I see clearly-
ATTACK when your down, ATTACK when your tired, ATTACK until you win–and lick your wounds after the battle. Send money–what you can afford–and get physical as in off your arse and protest properly and legally–as best you can. Don’t let Obama and his zombies too much more time to spit in the decent self respecting face of america–dare we spit in his face–or share we just quietly and peacefully protest before the white house—STEP DOWN YOU FAKE, YOU PHONEY, YOU FRAUD–let theplacards speak for themselves–let silence –focused silence scream-
step dowm despot, step down usurper. Arrest this man for treason
arrest this man for sticking a knife in the back of america
benedict arnold, aaron burr, barry soetoro–
Let the placrads sppeak with no more than five or six sayings—so you don;t get too difuseof distracted–and to hell with ehcklers–watch the movie Gandhi before you go–silence kills, silence destroys
You must get organized with at least once practcial able charismatic leader-
MM
August 15th, 2009 @ 4:22 pm
I like debra–she just loves and adores you as a woman of great intestinal fortitude, but all are missing the point—The other lawyers have been TURNED and threatened by the Obama Attack dogs.
Creep was crying like a baby recently–he did good work? YES! , but because of what is alleged to be frivolous suits by obama’s people because so many have been thrown out, the Obama Attack dogs are threatening their law licenses and other attacks , most of all dragging them into court and draining their money reserves–this got creep scared and i think all the rest have been turned and thus attack Orly– this so far does not seem to be getting through and this has heappened several times–maybe I am under attack– I love it!! Attack me–please! make my day!
These things do not happen from jealousy –there is professional friction here and there, but not of this magnitude–you all must reralize that the Obama machine is veruy well funded with 24/7 fanatics including Soro’s move on, and now the new Colors of people—headed by another commie black who bragged about being a commie–well he got 75,000 signatured and pulled a jesse jerkson extortion on the sponsers of Beck’s show on the Fox network because beck called the white house rascists and it is!!! So Geico, the yellow bastards backed out with lawyers, inc, and two others off the beck show as advertisers but NOT leaving the FOX network.
Attacks on orly from bwerg is another gambit–Berg is hillary’s man and she uses this DEMOCRAT–get it? a demoncrat!!!!! to front her assault so she can have plasible deniability–plus I am sensing she is behind another attack of obama. ORLY is an independent agent NOT from the Political school of sustained and everlasting corruption and bullshit in our good ole USA. Because she is essentially funding herself, she is making inroads with her brilliant legal assault–inraods, even when losing, because she fights back constantly—if she had a power base–money and brave souls backing her with influence and power she would tip the obama ice burg into the ocean.
She is incorruptible and doggedly determined this is why we so revere her. But she is human and has a family and the bastard attack dog nut cases come at her–like a thousand armed indians surrounding a loney covered wagon on the prairie. She does not take any shit from anyone and says things no american would say to presdients and lawyers and media, etc.
The only thing I am advising her to do quickly and concentrate on this and hammer it home for it is more important that\n interviews right now and THAT IS TO SUE KEITH OLBERMAN AND MSNBC FOR SLANDER-\
that peiece of deluded dog dung called her a con woman–our distinguished, profession, honest and upfront orly–a con woman????
And Cook her client was called worse, putting the poor man on the defensive.
IF she sues Olberman and MSNBC she will seek money damages –she knows the routine, but the ramifications will pry things open–for there she will hit the lefty media moguls right in their collective gonads and will be given the opprtunity in a civil court well monitored for stating her case against Obama-our presidential error and piece of corroded dog shit–rascist bastard that he and his family and friends and fellow politicos are—-worst of all is our commie leftist press–they should be arrested for RICO violations-
MY FRIENDS–AND YOU ARE MY FRIENDS IF YOU CARE FOR OUR ORLWE ARE AT WAR–WE MUST THINK IN MORE ACTIVIST TERMS AND BEGIN TO ORGANIZE. ALSO REMEMBER ORLY IS A JEW AND THE JEWS HAVE MANY ENEMIES–WILL CONTACT THE JDL PERHAPS TO KEEP AN EYE ON HER.
There is going to be a bloody mess in this country soon. This garabage can obama will never leave–even if found gulity of treason—he will fight to the death– perhaps ours–perhaps his. BUT REST ASSURED, WE DECENT AND GOOD AVERGAE AMERICAN FOLK- THE ONES THAT FOUGHT THE GREAT WARS–WE HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR SHIT ANDI WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING–THEY ARE ASKING FOR IT– THE ENTIRE BUNCH OF THEM ARE CORRUPT BASTARDS AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT–A DISTINCT MINORITY ARE GOING TO GET CAUGHT UP IN A MASSIVE MAELSTROM OF REVOLT– AND THE DECENT SMART BLACKS? THEY WILL BE SUCKED INTO THE RASCIST VORTEX– THINK IT CAN’T HAPPEN HERE? WELL IT HAPPENED IN 1860—TINGS ARE GO8ING TO GET WORSE BEFORE THEY GET BETTER–YOU CANNOT RIGHT THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THE POWER GRABBERS AND POLITICAL SUCK ASSES ARE LIKE LAMPREYS ON SALMON–
OBAMA WAS THE BIGEST MUISTAKE EVER MADE IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA–AND SOMEHOW AND IN SOME WAY THIS PIECE OF COMMIE DOG SHIT HAS TO BE THROWN OUT IF HE WILL NOT STAND DOWN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE AND GO BACK TO THE COUNTRY ON HIS ELUSIVE PASSPORT-iNDONESIA
WHY SHOULD BE BE LIED TO BY THIS FRAUD AND WHY SHOULD THESE DAMNED JUDGES KEEP THROWING OUT CASES AS FRIVOLOUS , WITHOUT MERIT OR STANDING—WHAT IS THE COARSE NYC EXPRESSION: THEY ARE PISSING ON OUR LEG AND TELL US ITS RAINING–
RASCIST? BECK IS 200% RIGHT–THAT THEY ARE–
MY FRIENDS THERE ARE NOT ONE MILLION GUNS IN AMERICA, NOT 10, MILLION, NOT 100 MILLION, THERE ARE ABOUT A BILLION GUNS IN AMERICA AND THERE ARE NO BULLETS AVAILABLE IN WALMART FOR INSTANCE–GO CHECK– IT IS NOT BECAUSE OBAMA PEOPLE ARE CONTROLLING THIS–IT IS EBCAUSE THE MANUFACTURERS CAN’T KEEP UP WITH DEMAND– OBAMA AND HIS AGENTS KNOW THIS AND THEY ARE SHITTING IN THEIR COLLECTIVE JEANS–THAT IS WHY YOU ATRE HEARING SO MUCH TALK ABOUT INTERNAL FORCES AND TRAINED TROOPS TO CONTROL RIOTS OR HYSTERICaL STUPID STATEMENTS FROM NEPOLITANO ABOUT RETURNING TROOPS BEING RIGH WING EXTREMISTS LIKE TIMORTH MCVEIGH– WHOSSE ALMOST SUMMARY EXECUTION BROKE SOME KIND OF RECORD IN THIS COUNTRY.
I believe a march on the white house by retired military in uniform–in proud uniform and their families all in touchbwith every soildier who has a computer here and abroad, should occur and we should demand that Obama stand down, and go home to his country–really can there be any doubt at this stage that he is willing to kill everyone who disputes his validity and has his zombies working full time– if you see any acorn twits in your neighborhood throw eggs at them.
Listen, the orly machine–the last decent honest oen around along with Keyes is beginning to get tired–understand? she is only human–even the best of the best need a rest, but she in a one WO man show and really has no one to rely on at the helm if she decides to take a short vacation
Listen, nobody knows better than orly that this is the right time and moment–things are hit despite her set backs–she is a brave and able soldier true to herself and her quest. We have to commit in support of her and be prepared to take risks–otherwiseits like kissing someone before they go on to a boat off to war–kiss is nice, but bullets are better as a practical matter.
Orly MUST sue Olberman–he defamed and humiliated her professionalism–she has recourse she must take it and it will pry things open in a way that not even she suspects but I see clearly-
ATTACK when your down, ATTACK when your tired, ATTACK until you win–and lick your wounds after the battle. Send money–what you can afford–and get physical as in off your arse and protest properly and legally–as best you can. Don’t let Obama and his zombies too much more time to spit in the decent self respecting face of america–dare we spit in his face–or share we just quietly and peacefully protest before the white house—STEP DOWN YOU FAKE, YOU PHONEY, YOU FRAUD–let theplacards speak for themselves–let silence –focused silence scream-
step dowm despot, step down usurper. Arrest this man for treason
arrest this man for sticking a knife in the back of america
benedict arnold, aaron burr, barry soetoro–
Let the placards sppeak with no more than five or six sayings—so you don;t get too difuseof distracted–and to hell with hecklers–watch the movie Gandhi before you go–silence kills, silence destroys
You must get organized with at least once practcial able charismatic leader-
MM
am trying to get this through–seems of late that a few of my comments don’t seem to make it on the list–am I under attack too– Good! I love it!
Come on down you traitors!! Come on–make my day!!
August 15th, 2009 @ 5:09 pm
I have been trying to post into ‘comments’ but my comments aren’t getting put up.
This excellent article clearly spells out that Obama is not ‘natural born’ and what ‘natural born’ means.
Thanks Truth Exists – The Logical analysis of a Natural Born Citizen
Posted on August 12th, 2009 by David-Crockett
and the clear and compelling evidence that Barack Hussein Obama, II is not a natural born citizen.
Published by Birthers.org
What is a Citizen?
Before defining what a natural born citizen is and how one acquires this status, it is important to understand what a generic citizen is and why a country bestows citizenship upon the members of a society. A citizen is a member of a particular nation who has been given certain rights, privileges, and immunities that are not given to people of other nations. Such rights include voting in elections, receiving a passport, and in some countries can include owning property. A privilege nations extend to citizens is holding elected office and some countries extend immunities to their citizens by preventing them from being extradited to face criminal charges in other countries.
Countries do not extend citizenship solely to grant rights, privileges and immunities to people. Citizenship is granted with the expectation of allegiance given to the country bestowing the benefits of citizenship. Countries demand that this allegiance be observed by its citizens and also impose obligations both civil and military. In times of crisis, nations need to draw upon its citizens to establish a loyal force to defend its borders and claims. In all times, nations, use the taxation of its citizens, both individuals and corporations to insure its treasury is adequately funded to meet its needs. These obligations are duties that its citizens must fulfill and that it cannot impose upon aliens and foreigners.
The most basic definition of a citizen is one who is a member of a particular nation and is entitled to receive rights, privileges and immunities from that particular nation that are not bestowed upon people of other nations in exchange for their allegiance in performing certain obligations not expected of people of other nations when called upon to do so.
Merriam Webster dictionary defines a citizen as “a person owing allegiance to and entitled to the protection of a sovereign state.” Law.dom dictionary defines a citizen as “a person who by place of birth, nationality of one or both parents, or by going through the naturalization process has sworn loyalty to a nation.”
The Current Methods of Becoming a US Citizen
Throughout the history of the United States of America there have been only three major classes of citizens: original, naturalized and born. On April 19, 1775, the United States of America entered into armed revolt against the tyrannical rule of the English King. On that date, these freedom fighters ceased being subjects of Great Britain and became Americans. July 4, 1776 was merely the date when the second Continental Congress declared to the world its intentions that had already been manifested on the battlefields. From April 19, 1775 until September 17, 1787, those that remained or who came to the 13 original states and who were naturalized by the laws of those states during that time were classified as original citizens in the Constitution. This classification of citizenship no longer exists in the present day United States.
A naturalized citizen is a very specific class of citizen whose existence is defined in our Constitution and laws. Naturalization is the process by which aliens declare their intent to be a member of the United States. Setting forth the rules of naturalization is a constitutional function of Congress under Article I. Since 1790, the Congress has enacted naturalization laws, which determine how a foreign national transforms into a national of the United States. A naturalized citizen is equal to in status as any other class of citizen except those of the natural born citizen class, and only for the expressed purpose of Article II, Section1.
The last method and the most common way to become an American citizen is simply to be born a citizen. The United States has always had two principles that determine if a person is born a citizen of the United States.
… the United States recognizes the U.S. citizenship of individuals according to two fundamental principles: jus soli (right of birthplace) and jus sanguinis (right of blood). From the office of Citizenship and Immigration Services
Prior to the Fourteenth Amendment, the States themselves were sovereign and created the rules to determine who was a born citizen of that State and by extension of the Nation. Some States extended citizenship to people born within those States (jus soli), while other States granted citizenship to the children of citizens of those States (jus sanguinis.) Each State placed restrictions upon who could be granted citizenship based upon birth. These restrictions were based upon one’s status and race. Some states discriminated against the race of a person, other states discriminated against one’s status as a freeman, bondservant or slave regardless of race, and some states restricted citizenship based upon a combination of both statuses.
The term jus soli describes a person born in the country, and jus sanguinis describes a person born of parents who are citizens. Persons who claims their citizenship based solely on the principle of jus soli are called “native born citizens” and these persons’ claims are based on the geographical location of their birth. On the other hand persons who are born only under the principle of jus sanguinis are called a “consanguineously born citizens,” and their claim of citizenship is based on inheritance. Both principles are equal in making one a born citizen. Being a born citizen extends to them one particular immunity not given to naturalized citizens, in that born citizens are immune from involuntarily renouncing their citizenship. A naturalized citizen can have his citizenship revoked for several reasons, but under current law, born citizens must walk into a US Embassy abroad and in front of the Consul renounce their citizenship.
The only two methods of obtaining US citizenship today are defined as Naturalization and Birth. Of the birth method of obtaining citizenship there are two principles recognized under our law. These are jus soli, which is based on the place of birth, and jus sanguinis which is based on the parents. We are now able to refer to the Euler diagram below called “Methods of Citizenship” in determining the ways to be considered a US citizen today. (If you are unfamiliar with Euler diagrams, the large circle and the space not occupied by either naturalized or born citizens does not indicate that there is any other type of citizen. The large circle is used to collect the two methods of becoming US citizens in one location called US Citizen so to separate them from other citizens such as a citizen of the world or a citizen of Rome.)
Methods of Citizenship
From this diagram (see at birthers.org), we are able to make nine logical statements concerning general citizenship in the United States.
1. All naturalized citizens are citizens of the United States.
2. All born citizens are citizens of the United States.
3. All born citizens are not naturalized citizens.
4. All naturalized citizens are not born citizens.
5. All Born citizens under the principle of jus soli are citizens of the United States.
6. All born citizens under the principle of jus sanguinis are citizens of the United States
7. All born citizens under both the principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis are citizens of the United States.
8. Not all born citizens under the principle of jus soli are born citizens under the principle of jus sanguinis. (i.e. children born in the US to alien parents)
9. Not all born citizens under the principle of jus sanguinis are born citizens under the principle of jus soli. (i.e. children born to US parents overseas)
The Reason for a “natural born citizen” in Article II, Section 1 of the US Constitution
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States. Article II, Section 1
“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” John Jay, July 25, 1787
To understand whom the future Chief Justice John Jay wanted to exclude from being Commander in Chief we need to examine the definition of Foreigner. Using the three most authoritative dictionaries, we can see who should be excluded and for what reason. We can then start to arrive at a definition of a “natural born citizen,” that meets this requirement.
MerriamWebster Dictionary – “a person belonging to or owing allegiance to a foreign country.”
Oxford English Dictionary – “One who is a subject of another country than that in which he resides. A resident foreign in origin and not naturalized, whose allegiance is thus due to a foreign state.”
Blacks Law Dictionary – “A person who is not a citizen or subject of the state or country in which mention is made, or any one owing allegiance to a foreign state or sovereign”
What all of these definitions have in common with the word citizen is allegiance. The target of the allegiance is different between a foreigner and a citizen. Since the reason for this prohibition of the admission of Foreigners into the office of Commander in Chief, is to prevent the military from being used by non-American powers against the Republic. Jay recommended and the framers agreed that this person must have a natural allegiance that is total and absolute to the Nation and to no any other nation or potentate.
We can look at the citizenship types from the diagram above and make some logical statements of both methods (naturalized and born) of being a citizen in light of allegiance. These statements are made with reliance on generally known and accepted facts.
Naturalized Citizens are not considered for President because of the following observations that could allow the admission of Foreigners into the Administration holding the post of Commander in Chief.
1. All naturalized citizens were citizens of another country at one point before naturalization.
2. All naturalized citizens renounce the former allegiances and take an oath of allegiance to the United States, but not all naturalized citizens are honest taking the oath of allegiance.
1. Some countries send their nationals into a targeted country to become citizens for the purpose of facilitating the affairs of their country of origin. These “citizens” are not acting as registered agents of their former countries, but are acting as de facto spies for that country. However, because they took the oath of allegiance they are not considered enemy agents or spies they are considered traitors.
This does not mean that all naturalized citizens are disloyal or have ulterior motives for coming to America. It simply means that allowing naturalized citizens to be President opens the possibility of a Foreigner acting under foreign influence. It is understood by the vast majority of American citizens that naturalized citizens are ineligible to be President of the United States and further discussion of this method of becoming a citizen is not necessary.
At this point discussion will be based solely on the method of citizenship called Born Citizen. As stated above there are two legal principles at work in determining if one is a born citizen. Refer to the Euler diagram below called “Principles of Born Citizenship”
Principles of Born Citizenship
Not all Born Citizens are considered for President because of the following observations that could allow the admission of Foreigners into the Administration holding the post of Commander in Chief.
1. All born citizens owe allegiance to the United States.
2. Not all born citizens under jus soli have complete and sole allegiance to the United States from birth, and some may be considered foreigners.
1. Some born citizens, especially those born to alien parents inherit citizenship via jus sanguinis from their parents’ native countries.
i. It is possible for a born citizen US citizen to be born with citizenship in three distinct countries. These citizenships can come from the country of birth via jus soli, and the country of the father and the country of the mother via jus sanguinis.
1. Not all born citizens under jus sanguinis have complete and sole allegiance to the United States from birth, and some may be considered foreigners.
1. Some born citizens overseas receive citizenship in the country of birth via jus soli.
2. Some born citizens overseas receive citizenship from a non-US citizen parent via jus sanguinis.
2. All born citizens under both jus soli and jus sanguinis from both US citizen parents have complete and sole allegiance to the United States from birth, their allegiance cannot be claimed by another country.
1. No other country can grant citizenship via jus soli.
2. No other country can grant citizenship via jus sanguinis.
i. Naturalized citizen parents have renounced their former citizenships to become naturalized American citizens and can no longer pass on jus sanguinis citizenship of their former country as an automatic birthright.
We can now say with certainty that the term “a natural born citizen” is a person who is born owing to only one country his or her complete and undivided national allegiance. It is only to this individual that the Constitution of the United States of America entrusts the office of President and the responsibilities of Commander in Chief to, there is no other. A natural born citizen is a refining subset of that group of citizens called born citizens. Refer to figure labeled, “The Unification Principles of Natural Born Citizen.“
The Unification Principles of Natural Born Citizen
At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution, there was one and only one definition that combined both principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis into a definition of natural born citizen.
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” Emmerich Vattel, Law of Nations, § 212. Of the citizens and natives
This definition was echoed by Congressman John A. Bingham, who is considered the architect of the Fourteenth Amendment. Although the congressman said this concerning the Civil Rights Act of 1866, this definition was not replaced by the Fourteenth Amendment.
“I find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen; but, sir, I may be allowed to say further, that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, and not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States.” John A. Bingham, (R-Ohio) US Congressman, March 9, 1866
This definition has been codified into American Common Law through the case of MINOR V. HAPPERSETT
The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. The words “all children” are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as “all persons,” and if females are included in the last, they must be in the first. That they are included in the last is not denied. In fact, the whole argument of the plaintiffs proceeds upon that idea. Unanimous opinion of the court. MINOR V. HAPPERSETT, 88 U. S. 162 (1874)
The definition of a natural born citizen written by Vattel and recounted by both Congressman Bingham and the Supreme Court, was what the Framers of the Constitution wanted when the wrote and ratified Article II, Section 1. There can be no other definition that provides the strong check that John Jay urged Washington to incorporate into the Constitution to guard against those who could have allegiances to a foreign power from being Commander and Chief of our armed forces. Until we as a nation change the Constitution this is the only standard we can use to call someone an Article II natural born citizen.
Using available material the Framers of Constitution and the architects of Article II, section 1 had on hand, authoritative statements made by one of the architects of the Fourteenth Amendment, and a Supreme Court decision after the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, allows us to create a natural born citizen matrix.
The Fourteenth Amendment does not make one born in the United States “a natural born citizen,” it only makes them a “born citizen.”
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1, Clause 1
The Fourteenth Amendment was ratified to insure that no state could or would deprive the newly freed slaves or their children the rights of citizenship. This can be seen in the remaining text of Section 1.
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1, Clause 2
This Amendment did not nor does it alter the principle of jus sanguinis. The principle of jus sanguinis has been established by the States before the Constitution and codified into national law since 1790. The freed slaves were not US citizens at the time they were freed and could not have passed US Citizenship to their children. This amendment extended the principle of jus soli uniformly across the nation, hence the term ‘born … in the United States’ appears in the Fourteenth Amendment.
The plain words of this section cannot be ignored. There is no term “natural born” anywhere to be found. The reason it is not found is because there are the two methods of citizenship that are joined by a logical ‘or,’ which treats both methods as being equal. What they are equal to is the most generic term citizen. This is the one concept all American citizens share, whether we are a naturalized citizen, a born citizen under the principle of jus soli, a born citizen under the principle of jus sanguinis, or a natural born citizen under both principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis, we are all citizens of the United States.
The most disputed term in the Fourteenth Amendment is the term, ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’ From the civil rights act we find the words, “That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.” We can clearly see that just two years later the phrase, “not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed,” was replaced with the phrase, ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’ Clearly this did not change the essence of meaning, as the most complete and reliable definition we have closest to the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment is from Senator Lyman Trumbull, the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee who was instrumental in drafting the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Senator Trumbull clearly and succinctly states the meaning of ‘subject to the jurisdiction’, “What do we mean by ’subject to the jurisdiction’ of the United States? Not owing allegiance to anyone else. That is what it means … It cannot be said of any (one) who owes allegiance … to some other government that he is ’subject’ to the jurisdiction of the United States.” It is not our intention to expand this paper into other current topics, the explanation of “subject to the jurisdiction” is only to reinforce the fact that at the time of the Fourteenth Amendment the general sentiment was that US citizenship carried with it a complete allegiance to the United States.
The phrase ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ has been interpreted differently then what the Amendments architects originally said in the case of Wong Kim Ark. This is a landmark case in citizenship. It is not our intention to take this into the topic of immigration; however it is necessary to examine this decision as it relates to the specifics of a natural born citizen. There is one statement in the decision of Wong Kim Ark that seems to add unnecessary confusion to the term a “natural born citizen.”
“The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle.” Justice Horace Gray Wong Kim Ark Case, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
There are historical factors that need explanation. But first let’s simply look at the logic of what Justice Gray is saying. He is saying the principle (singular) that both a native born and natural born share is the same. We know that a “natural born citizen” is a citizen that has two principles to claim citizenship with, jus soli and jus sanguinis. On the other hand, a “native born citizen” has to satisfy only one principle, jus soli to be granted citizenship. It is the principle of jus soli that is the same principle that a “natural born citizen” shares with a “native born citizen” in making them a citizen of the United States, so what Justice Gray stated is correct. This is proven by applying the same statement to a born citizen born overseas by a citizen under the principle of jus sanguinis. If Justice Gray had said, “The child of a citizen, if born out the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle” this would hold true, but the singular principle would not have been jus soli, but rather jus sanguinis. See diagram “Shared principles of born citizens and natural born citizen.” (see at birthers.org)
Shared principles of born citizens and natural born citizen
The historical factors that need to be considered at the time of Justice Gray’s opinion are, the right to confer the birthright principle of jus sanguinis was limited to the father. This right was not extended to women until 1934 and was upheld as late as 1961 in the case of Montana v. Kennedy (366 U.S. 308). Therefore, the citizen parent that Justice Gray is speaking of is the father. The law in effect at that time of his ruling, Revised Statutes of 1878, also gave the mother instant citizenship if she were an alien married to a US citizen, making both parents US citizens. This decision has not altered the integrity or meaning of the definitions of a natural born citizen from Vattel, Congressman Bingham remarks or the Minor v. Happersett decision concerning the necessity of parents plural for conferring upon a native-born citizen the status of natural born citizen. It is also obvious that from the accepted law and definition of a natural born citizen at the time of the ruling, Wong Kim Ark would never qualify as natural born citizen and future concerns about Article II, Section 1 were never addressed by the Court as these concerns were not germane to the issue in front of the court, which was general citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment.
We can now update our original Euler diagram to include natural born citizens as a proper subset of Born Citizens. (see at birthers.org)
How does this effect Barack Hussein Obama, II and his sworn declaration of being a natural born citizen?
Primarily is the issue of the Certificate of Live Birth that Barack Hussein Obama, II is secreting from the American public is of major concern because it deprives the public of the information needed to determine if he is telling the truth, or lying about his natural born citizen status. Unlike the COLB, which is short hand for Certification of Live Birth, the Certificate of Live Birth has the necessary information to either quickly determine the natural born status of the child or can easily point to further documentation needed to conclude this determination. The key pieces of information contained in the Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth are the place of birth of the child and the place of birth for both parents. (See photo called Hawaiian Long Form from August 5, 1961) If either the father or mother were born overseas, then the next piece of evidence required to validate the “natural born citizen” claim would be proof of American citizenship of the parents of the parent born overseas. This can be either in the form of a naturalization certificate or birth certificates of the parents of the parent born overseas proving they were able to transfer jus sanguinis, birthright citizenship to the parent of the child requiring confirmation of his or her claim.
Hawaiian Long Form from August 5, 1961
Putting aside the issue of what constitutes a legal Certificate of Live Birth for proving natural born status under Article II, Section 1. If we take the information found in Barack Hussein Obama, II’s “Fight the Smears” website we discover the following
Obama is claiming to be a native citizen of the United States of America. This means he is claiming a status of ‘a Born Citizen’ under the principle of jus soli. It is interesting to note that he is not claiming a natural born status, as required by Article II. Leave it as it is for now.
On the same page, we see from FactCheck.org, Barack Hussein Obama, II admitting his father was a British subject at the time of his birth. Furthermore the cite states that his birth was governed by the British government through the British Nationality Act of 1948.
This Act conferred the title of British subject upon Barack Hussein Obama, II.
Under Section 5 of this Act, citizenship is passed from father to child.
5. (1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:
Provided that if the father of such a person is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent only, that person shall not be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by virtue of this section unless—
(a) that person is born or his father was born in a protectorate, protected state, mandated territory or trust territory or any place in a foreign country where by treaty, capitulation, grant, usage, sufferance, or other lawful means, His Majesty then has or had jurisdiction over British subjects; or
Note: Barack Hussien Obama, Sr. was in fact born in Kenya a British Protectorate and crown colony. At one time Hawaii was a British Protectorate, (1794–1843), in which the British Crown had jurisdiction of British Subjects. If you have any doubts please look at the flag of Hawaii. Either of these provisions fulfills the requirements of subsection 5 of the British Nationality Act. Regardless if his birthplace was Kenya or Hawaii Barack Hussein Obama, II is a British Subject. His father’s birth was in a British Colony or his birth if in Hawaii which was at one time a British Protectorate.
(b) that person’s birth having occurred in a place in a foreign country other than a place such as is mentioned in the last foregoing paragraph, the birth is registered at a United Kingdom consulate within one year of its occurrence, or, with the permission of the Secretary of State, later; or
Note: While subparagraph (a) makes this irrelevant, we have had neither a statement from Obama, II stating this option was not exercised, nor do we have independent confirmation from an authoritative source denying this.
Using the information contained on his website, we can accurately produce a natural born citizen matrix for him to see if he is in fact an Article II, natural born citizen.
Using both the law and logic it can now clearly be seen that Barack Hussein Obama, II is not a natural born citizen as required to hold the office of President of the United states of America and be the Commander in Chief of its armies as required under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America.
He does not meet the full and complete description of a “natural born citizen,” which is a citizen who has unity of citizenship at birth to one and only one country via by both Jus soli (place) and Jus sanguinis (the parents,) who is born in the country to two citizens of the country. Such a citizen can only have his allegiance claimed by one country. A natural born citizen cannot evade civic or military obligations by repatriating himself or herself to another country since a natural born citizen does not have dual or multiple citizenships by birth. A natural born citizen who gives his or her allegiance to another country during a time of war cannot justify it by saying he or she is a spy or a patriot for some other country for which he or she also has citizenship via birth. Such a person is simply a traitor to his or her natural born country.
Obama’s refusal to release his long form Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii, his manipulation of facts, his own statements can only lead a reasonable person to believe that he intentionally has lead the United States of America into a Constitutional Crisis.
However, this can now be resolved by the state court of the State of Arizona, if there is one sheriff, one prosecutor, one judge, one state representative loyal to the Constitution, because on December 13, 2007 at 3:01 PM Mountain Time, Barrack Hussein Obama, II fraudulently filed a sworn affidavit in his own hand that declared himself to be a natural born citizen of the United States of America, and that he has fulfilled the requirements under the Constitution. The landmark case of Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997) has set the precedent that a sitting President is not immune from prosecution for acts committed before taking office.
The question now is can America find one honest public servant in Arizona who believes in the supremacy of the US Constitution. If we can find officers of the court loyal to the Constitution then Chris Matthews will really get a tingle up his leg when he sees Obama in the pink underwear issued to him by Sheriff Joe Arpaio
Barack Hussein Obama II is NOT an Article II Natural Born Citizen of the USA!
August 16th, 2009 @ 3:01 am
I contacted her twice, but didn’t hear from her
August 16th, 2009 @ 2:48 pm
“We can conquer only by attacking.”
— General George S. Patton, Jr.
August 18th, 2009 @ 12:14 am
I just tried to access your site & was told it was an attack site & I removed it from my list. It was flagged by Google. They will always attack you because that is what Liberals do. No brains, so they have no alternative as they can’t prove you are wrong in your quest for the truth. I just notified everyone I know that Obama’s MySpace Page lists his age as 52, not 48. That would make him born in 1957 & his Mother age 14 at his birth. It will probably be removed or changed soon, so you might want to check it out. It very well could be another one of his Gaffs, as he doesn’t have his Teleprompter guiding him in editing his page. You have to actually use your brain while writing information to the page. he will probably blame that on Bush as well. It has to be very frustrating to you, as I know I am & to the point I want to tear my hair out. That would be disastrous, as I don’t have that much left. Don’t get discouraged, as the truth will eventually be known. Eden some die hard Democrats have had enough of Obama’s Socialism, along with Pelosi, Reid, Schumer & other Socialistic Morons. Believe me, he is definitely feeling the pressure & people are finally starting to wake up & see the danger our Constitutional Republic is in. Thanks for all your hard work trying to get the Court System to wake up. There are many of us e-mailing, calling & writing letters to Congress & SCOTUS. We won’t give up either.