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A very important conversation with one of the leaders of Obama defense on the Internet- He is now willing to state that the computer image posted by Obama on line cannot be used as a verification of anything

Posted on | January 5, 2013 | 48 Comments

I just got of the phone with Kevin Davidson, who runs a blog “Dr. Conspiracy”. Mr. Davidson was a leader of the Obama technical defense on the internet for 4 years.

We had a civil conversation, we agreed to disagree on a number of technical issues.

Mr. Davidson allowed me to write on my blog about our conversation. He stated that he owned a software company which dealt with scanning birth certificates, converting information and creating computerised birth certificates.

We agreed on two main points:

1. Computer image posted by Obama on whiteHouse.gov is not a document, it is just a coputer image, it is not a certified copy, it cannot be used by anybody for any purpose.

2. Certified copy differs from the computer printout in that a certified copy contains ultraviolet safety feature, which is built in the security paper. when you get your passport you have to provide a proper document: an original or a certified copy with proper security features. If there is a reason to doubt authenticity of the document, then an original needs to be examined.

3. He stated that he never was opposed to demands for original identification documents by Barack Obama and he believes that original documents should be produced.

We had disagreements on an issue of a halo effect. According to most experts halo (white shadow effect ) came from computer manipulation, specifically a computer application calle unsharp mask.

Mr. Davidson stated that he read an article by someone in Brazil, who stated that in some instances when MRC compression is done, there can be a halo effect and that this compression can be done by some scanners. My response to him was that he needs to show that it happenned  in this case. The best response to this argument, is that not one of the other known birth certificates from Hawaii have this halo effect.

If it is something that would be created by a scanner there, then we would have seen it in every birth certificate, however we see it only in Obama’s.

His response to this was that the halo effect was created not in Hawaii, but in the White House, by the scanner in the White House, that is why all other Hawaiian BCs do not have it.

My response to this is that if our tax payer money  were to go to some lousy scanner in the White House, that creates white shadow around every word and line, then we would have seen it in every document coming from the White House, every scanned document from the White House would have had white shadows, however it is not happening, therefor  even if one were to believe that this white halo effect is something that can happen theoretically because of a scanner, it did not happen here, it was nt the reason for white halo effect in Obama’s birth certificate.

I asked him about the fact that the letters in the birth certificate are of different sizes and different fonts, different shapes and with different spaces between them, with kerning effect, meaning one letter encroaching into the space of another letter. If one were to create a document with a type writer, all the letters would be the same with the same spaces. His response was that the letters are of different fonts and spaces and different shapes because of the scanner.

I asked about multiple layers and the fact that the registrar’s stamp and the date stamp  were on different layers and could be moved around the document.

He claimed that this was also because of the scanner.

At which point I stated that I do not even need to go into all the details. If he admits that a scanner can cause the letter to take different shapes and sizes, the spaces to appear, white halo to appear, multiple layers to appear and most importantly the stamp of the registrar to be moved around the document and be imported into the document from some other document, then obviously this computer image cannot be used for verification of anything, particularly not the eligibility of the US President, at which point he agreed that indeed a computer image is not a document and cannot be used for verification. We need to see the actual document, at the very minimum we need to see the certified copy with the security ultraviolet feature (just like money have security feature against the counterfeiting) and if there is a question of authenticity of the original, then the original has to be examined. That is what I am asking all along.

I asked him about the new document, which was produced by Obama’s attorneys Tepper and Begley, which was sent to Judge Wingate. In the new version forgers cleaned up several signs of forgery, the original layers were flattened and the white halo was cleaned up. If Onaka were to certify a copy of the original, then both copies would be identical. He had no comment, he stated that he did not analyse it. I was surprised by the fact that someone, who is an expert in birth certificates, who led the blog “doctor Conspiracy” and who spent 4 years defending Obama’s papers did not care to analyse the new document, new version  released by Obama’s attorneys.

At any rate as of today the leader of Obama’s technical defense team on the Internet, the chief Cheer Leader Kevin Davidson aka “doctor Conspiracy” stated that what Obama posted on line is not a document and not a verification of anything.

At the very minimum we need to see a certified copy on security paper , however if there is a doubt about Onaka, his complicity and authenticity of the original, then the certified copy is not sufficient, we need to see the original typewritten document created in 1961, which should be on file.

We discussed a number of other issues.I will limit my report by this main point. I will only mention that he agreed that the way I was attacked and called names, the way some individuals were painting nude pornographic paintigs of me in order to assaaainate me as a human being was inappropriate and this should not have been done.  He blaimed people running fogbow.

I believe he wants to distance himself from unscrupulous characters and he wants the truth to come out.

Here is the post on “Dr. Conspiracy web site”

My conversation with Orly Taitz

By on January 5, 2013in Orly Taitz

Dr. Taitz left a message and I called her. She was prompted to contact me because of  an email from someone that pointed her to my article: “White House birth certificate: not identical to original.” She had questions about what I wrote. We talked for over an hour on a wide range of topics. It was interesting. A lot of what she said you can find in her writing and I won’t go into details about the conversation which I consider private anyway. It was civil and she was rather eloquent in explaining why she feels the way she does.

For my part, I agreed that I have no objection if Obama choses to release additional documents. That’s his decision. I personally don’t doubt his credentials, but it’s not my affair.

We both agreed that a “document on the Internet is not proof.” It may be a picture of proof, but it’s not proof.

I confess that I said, after being interrupted, “let me finish” twice.

Comments

48 Responses to “A very important conversation with one of the leaders of Obama defense on the Internet- He is now willing to state that the computer image posted by Obama on line cannot be used as a verification of anything”

  1. Fred
    January 5th, 2013 @ 4:42 pm

    I believe that the very last thing he wants is for the truth to come out.

  2. Truth For Breakfast
    January 5th, 2013 @ 5:04 pm

    Why didn’t you give Romney this information about pornographic paintings of you before the election? It would have destroyed Obama to be tied to pornographers! Can you stop the inauguration based on this new information?

  3. MARSHMAN
    January 5th, 2013 @ 5:32 pm

    Doc has a explanation for the “txe” also. Obama doe’s not add up!! If Obama is legit then he should just answer everyones questions and not hide and deny.

  4. Kevin Davidson
    January 5th, 2013 @ 5:39 pm

    Let me clarify one point, in this otherwise reasonably accurate description of our conversation.

    I do not hold with personal insults and ridicule as a way for decent people to address each other. Everyone gets angry sometimes, and I’m not immune to saying things I regret later. People on my blog sometimes say fairly nasty things about Orly Taitz, and commenters at the Fogbow do that even more. I don’t agree with that.

    I was certainly offended by the Lacey nude paintings of Orly Taitz; however, I did not say, nor do I have any reason to believe, that anyone at the The Fogbow had any connection with those nude paintings.

    One other clarification: I did not say that Obama’s PDF birth certificate file could not be used as evidence BECAUSE it has layers and the registrar stamp can be moved around in an image editing program. I say that it is not evidence because it is only a picture of a birth certificate, not the certificate itself. Only the certified copy of the birth certificate, lawfully issued by a jurisdiction and with the signature and seal of the issuer is legal evidence.

  5. The Truth
    January 5th, 2013 @ 5:54 pm

    Dr. Conspiracy is a smug, know-it-all Obamabot who frequently comments for the usurper’s side, after any article or posting about Obama’s false papers. He is not to be trusted about anything.

    I’m surprised he mentioned that he read something about someone doing some experiment in Brazil. He uses this as an arguement? Now who is being ridiculous now Mr. Davidson? Is this just another misdirection? I think so.
    Kevin is currently on the short list of possible suspects who may have put together this poor excuse for a birth certificate. Now that’s something to be proud of.

  6. Itchik
    January 5th, 2013 @ 5:57 pm

    Dr. Conspiracy is either the stupidest, least qualified person to ever speak on the issue or he is the biggest bald-faced liar on earth, next to Obama. The scanner changed the letters????!!!! Are you f***ing kidding me???!!! This is the most ridiculous thing I think I have ever heard! Utter and and absolute bullshit!

    Somebody needs to ask the engineers at Canon, Brother, Nikon and Hewlett-Packard about the possibility that an imaging device as precise and reliable as a modern scanner could do such a thing? Be prepared to be laughed out of the building! There is NFW that this is even remotely possible! And if it were, EVERY single company currently manufacturing scanners would be out of business. Laughable!

  7. Kevin Davidson
    January 5th, 2013 @ 5:58 pm

    Marshman, yes, I have an explanation for TXE. It’s in my article about the Onaka smiley face.

  8. Veritas
    January 5th, 2013 @ 6:49 pm

    Truth for Breakfast is a tad bit too riled up if Obama is truly qualified under the Constitution. Obots are unglued because the fairy tale is unraveling even without savvy jurisprudence by judges. Did anyone else read on the Lamecherry blog that Romney will end up president after all? There WAS an election and 2 of the 3 tickets were eligible: Johnson and Romney. America will have Truth with their breakfast coffee that morning when the Constitution is enforced and no amount of chocolates for breakfast will sweeten anything for the Obots that day.

  9. Rodney Rawlings
    January 5th, 2013 @ 6:58 pm

    I don’t think it was ever held up as legal proof. It was just to show that the legal document did exist.

    Were there not so many grounds to suspect Obama’s life story, that would have been enough for everyone; such level and scope of deception would be unprecedented in a candidate and/or president. Obama was simply assuming no one would look further.

    Inconveniently for him, many have.

  10. Rodney Rawlings
    January 5th, 2013 @ 6:59 pm

    I don’t think it was ever held up as legal proof. It was just to show that the legal document did exist.

    Were there not so many grounds to suspect Obama’s life story, that would have been enough for everyone; such level and scope of deception would be unprecedented in a candidate and/or president. Obama was simply assuming no one would look further.

    Inconveniently for him, many have. But that does not mean he ever brought the document forward as legal proof.

  11. Lady Liberty's Biggest Fan
    January 5th, 2013 @ 8:05 pm

    Dr. Taitz Esq. you are a hero if I may be so bold, you are going to save the republic. My children and grandchildren will no longer speak to me because of Obama and his sneaky ways, but they will return to my loving arms and apologize once you are through with him and they see what I’ve been talking about FOR YEARS! LONG LIVE LADY LIBERTY! (That is you.)

    - Bob Abooey

  12. Orlyyou sonofabitch
    January 5th, 2013 @ 8:10 pm

    who care about some one paint nude photo of you stupid ass…No one care what the do to you…I hope they run you over in the street with a giant Ball of wax….

    Orly it over you lost move on before some one come after you..

    You are one racist son of a bitch, that just can’t move on….

  13. speedy
    January 5th, 2013 @ 8:19 pm

    So, bo’s people used a doctored up version of the same forgery so it looks more cleaner and maybe realistic to the judge? I can’t understand how a judge can accept a forgery as proof of anything. What a joke. BO is the biggest criminal to ever usurp the presidency. No other president was as criminal as the usurper. Congress was so stupid to certify the usurper. Really, BO shouldn’t be inaugurated because he will once again perjure the oath of office. It doesn’t set a good precidence when bo is allowed to use fake ID as proof to be the president and stolen CT SSN. Anyone else would be in prison if they did that.

  14. Barbara
    January 5th, 2013 @ 9:17 pm

    How does he explain the out of sequence certificate number?

    This forgery is so bad it looks more like a cut and paste ransom note. Maybe that’s what it is, and our country is up for ransom?

    This should be a criminal case and the perpetrators tried for treason and/or sedition.

  15. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:26 pm

    The new version of Obama’s forgery was submitted in to judge Wingate in my case in MS. Judge Wingate did not rule yet. Maybe he will be the honest judge who will send Obama and other criminals to prison, we’ll see.

  16. Authenticator
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:26 pm

    Truth for Breakfast,,,Taitz and Romney were in vicinity of each other on Sep 16-17. Mr. Romney, like others steered clear of eligibility throughout.

    Romney makes pit stop in Kansas City for fuel and food — but no …
    https://www.stlbeacon.org/#!/content/27060/romney_kc_091712
    Sep 17, 2012 – Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney made a brief unplanned stop Sunday night in Kansas City, which also underscored how …

    Press release on Kansas challenge against Obama | Dr. Orly Taitz …
    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=298285
    Press release by attorney Orly Taitz. Report on Kansas challenge against Obama. … challenge against Obama. Posted on | September 17, 2012 | 47 Comments …

  17. Yoel
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:29 pm

    Dr Conspiracy is mocking you. Someone calling herself Lumi literally destroyed every argument put forward by the posters at Dr Conspiracy, so Dr jerk deleted most of her posts. Lumi really knows her stuff.

  18. Jerry
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:33 pm

    BILL TO REMOVE THE TERM LIMIT FOR PRESIDENT HAS JUST BEEN FILED… WE ARE ONE BABY STEP AWAY FROM DICTATORSHIP AND IT WILL HAVE BEEN DONE LEGALLY, JUST LIKE CHANCELLOR HITLER….SHARE AND ACT AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT, BECAUSE IT MOST ASSUREDLY DOES. THIS IS NOT ABOUT LEFT OR RIGHT IT IS ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG.

    H.J.Res. 15: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, …
    …of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President
    My prediction: THEYwill turn into a mass murderers unless they are stopped now!! STOP THE NEW WORLD ORDER!! THEY will be as many before THEM, a mass murdering bunch of thugs,a bunch of satanist muslims,supporting the muslim brotherhood,traitors, christian hating killers and a big part of the ongoing destruction of all civilization? Unless the sheeple wake UP!

    //www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hjres15t.

  19. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:34 pm

    I remember distictly you stating that Fogbow was publishing those paintings and calling me names and you felt that this is not a civilized behavior, you specifically mentioned Fogbow. Are they threatening you now?

  20. Yoel
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:44 pm

    The American Academy of Forensic Sciences is a great organization. You might want to contact them to see if they know of someone who is willing to help you. Also, here are some links to other outstanding forensic organizations and experts….http://www.aafs.org/forensic-links

  21. Yoel
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:52 pm

    Fogbow threatens everyone who disagrees with them. Ignore them. They are gutless cowards who hide behind keyboards.

  22. will
    January 5th, 2013 @ 10:55 pm

    dr orly it would only be fair that this judge have a copy of all the falsified certificates to look at… only using the best copy is in my opinion a joke…

    and face to face i would tell the judge so..
    will

  23. Douglas Vogt
    January 6th, 2013 @ 12:59 am

    Dear Kevin,

    You had told me you just worked for the South Carolina department of Health. I guess your job was just scanning certificates. You called me a liar after my first report on the birth certificate. This was a big mistake on your part. It looks like you had lied to all of us by not honestly telling your audience that you were paid by the administration, most likely through Jim Johnson, to defend Obama no matter what falsehood the Obots would resort to. Well Kevin, over a year and a half has passed and Paul Irey and myself have found over 22 points of forgery on Obama’s COLB. We did not use the PDF copy even thought that alone proved evidence of electronic manipulation. We used the reporters copy from one of the networks that was at the April 27, 2011 news conference. At 300 dpi it showed us all we needed to know. By the way the white halo is caused by unsharp mask and finally Mara Z. agreed with us. The white halo appeared both on the reporters copy and Savanna Guthrie’s copy so it was not part of any PDF manipulation. Remember the Governor states that Fuddy witnessed the “copying of the original certificate” onto the security paper from a copier. Paul and I re-typeset the COLB and replicated what they said and can prove the whole story is one big lie.
    I have a little message for you. One I have already told John Woodman and RC. I believe you were paid for your services from the Obama handlers and that makes you an accessory after the fact in a treason case. You helped let a foreign communist agent to become president of the US for the purpose of destroying the country. I don’t want you to take my word for it Kevin, just read the Federal Statutes below:

    Title 18, Chapter 1 General Provisions; Section. 3. Accessory after the fact, Statute:
    Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact. Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.

    What makes it Treason is this:
    Title 18, Chapter 115; TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
    Sec. 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government look it up yourself and read it.

    And my all time favorite:
    Title 18, Chapter 228, DEATH SENTENCE
    Sec. 3592. Mitigating and aggravating factors to be considered in determining whether a sentence of death is justified
    (a) Mitigating Factors. – In determining whether a sentence of death is to be imposed on a defendant, the finder of fact shall consider any mitigating factor, including the following:
    (b) Aggravating Factors for Espionage and Treason. – In determining whether a sentence of death is justified for an offense described in section 3591(a)(1), the jury, or if there is no jury, the court, shall consider each of the following aggravating factors for which notice has been given and determine which, if any, exist:
    (2) Grave risk to national security. – In the commission of the offense the defendant knowingly created a grave risk of substantial danger to the national security. [Emphasis added]
    (3) Grave risk of death. – In the commission of the offense the defendant knowingly created a grave risk of death to another person. [Emphasis added]

    There is nothing worst than helping a foreign agent to become President. Because of your actions you may be looking at 15 years in prison. This will give you something to think about.

    My only question for you is: Why did you want an known socialist/communist to become president? Are you a socialist yourself?

  24. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 6th, 2013 @ 2:55 am

    people contacted them. the problem is that
    1. they are afraid o get involved in it
    2. they need to compare forgery to original documents and Obama’s accomplices in the government and judges are hiding the originals

  25. Eviction Notice
    January 6th, 2013 @ 2:58 am

    Wow! I am going to check Lame Cherry; then, I’m going to now comment on that H.J. Res. 15. This is a House Bill, right? With all the conservative majority there, I find it hard to believe that they would allow this to go through or pass it?! And another “foul” poster can’t function like a normal “slice of the pie!!!”

  26. Redd E Kilowatt
    January 6th, 2013 @ 5:21 am

    Mr. Vogt

    Have you reported Mr. Woodman and “RC” to the proper authorities for violation of “Title 18, Chapter 1 General Provisions; Section. 3. Accessory after the fact”? Will you be adding Mr. Davidson to that report? What was their response if you did file such a report? Would it help if Dr. Taitz signed the complaint?

  27. Veritas
    January 6th, 2013 @ 6:24 am

    To “Eviction Notice,” ..it is embedded in a post from the last few weeks in the midst of a stream of consciousness paragraph to the effect of (paraphrased): “I am almost happy that Romney will steal the election.”

    “Steal” probably, as that is what Obots will say when Monsieur L’Soebarkah is given a plane ticket to the country where he campaigned for his relative while he was Senator (and NOBODY chastised him for breaking the law then…Obama has been getting away with all kinds of missteps from day one.)

  28. revenge
    January 6th, 2013 @ 9:35 am

    posted on another blog other than the Orly blog
    ______________________________

    1st:… you are full of BS and yer attempt to appear to be engaged, with deliberation, during your analysis of the LYING chief executive of America’s documents, is disgusting.
    2nd: The LIAR in chief did say at a gathering that he would release his documents when asked to do so by an attendee at that public meeting having many thousands of people in attendance.
    3rd: his history is wanting when it comes to being an honorable person and he is without a doubt the most evil bastard to ever enter the White House.
    4th: The “evil bastard” allowed dedicated military professionals to be jailed, because they believed that they cannot defend a nation with a LIAR for a commander in chief of their military obligations to defend the country against ‘all’ enemies foreign and domestic.
    5th: You and yours on this blog are ‘racist’ because you want a black president who isn’t eligible to be where he is now. The masses voted ‘color’ not ‘law’ and what could be more indicative of a racist minority American citizen.
    6th: American Minorities are the most racist people on the planet earth. Some of us have associated with Nigerian and Kenyan blacks and it can be said that they see the adherence to law as being more important than voting for ‘color’ as the racist on this blog have done.
    7th: For anyone to call other people who are concerned about the ‘liar’ in Wa. D.C. ‘racist’ is more BS because these same ‘racist’ are the people who worked to bring about equality of opportunity to minorities in America. The ‘racist’ minorities can stuff their racism where it will do them the most good… then sit on their racism bundle wherever they go.
    ______________________________________________________________________________
    RACIST WHITE ACTIVITIES IN THE 1800”s SHOWN BELOW

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_officeholders_during_the_Reconstruction
    Many scholars have identified more than 1,500 African American officeholders during the Reconstruction period (1865–1876). All were Republicans. Historian Canter Brown, Jr. noted that in some states, such as Florida, the highest number of African Americans were elected or appointed to offices after 1876 and the end of Reconstruction. The following is a partial list some of the most notable of the officeholders pre-1900.

    One of the most important aspects of Reconstruction was the active participation of African Americans (including thousands of former slaves) in the political, economic and social life of the South. The era was to a great extent defined by their quest for autonomy and equal rights under the law, both as individuals and for the black community as a whole. During Reconstruction, some 2,000 African Americans held public office, from the local level all the way up to the U.S. Senate, though they never achieved representation in government proportionate to their numbers.
    _________________________________________________________________________________
    8th: As the “king” of BS on this blog and blog owner it would appear that your doubts about who is in America’s house indicates that the ‘liar’ should be properly vetted. In fact your kind are not needed in America… so leave right now.
    9th: Anyone who says that the American Constitution if FLAWD has to be nuts and can’t be an American, so it is with the WH ‘liar’. While it’s true that there are problems with American law… no one can state that there are better alternatives to American principles that have abolished many ill begotten activities like burning witches at the stake.
    10th: From many sources who have enter-acted with the ‘liar’ it comes to light that the ‘liar’ is what he is, a ‘dumb ass’ fraud. The ‘liar’ is the biggest threat to America than the Soviet Union or Hitler was to America. All that the ‘liar’ is are shown by Castro, Chavez, and more.
    11th: The analysis made by Dr. Dumb the Nasa employee should be investigated, because the time to create that Mr. Dumb document was probably done on the Nasa dime aka the American taxpayers’ dime. Can it be said “another liar” is on the fence for integrity?
    12th: The ‘liars’ attempt to usurp american ‘rights’ will be dealt with some day by American citizens who are adherents to America’s Supreme Law.
    13th: The ignorant waste of time ‘liar’ will surely bring America down as it has occurred in Argentina.
    Argentina’s race to destruction are due to the same acts contemplated by that asshole in the White House.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2409771/posts
    14th: The Teleprompter dunce reeks of stupidity that is seen by viewing his body English… it’s impossible to see that ‘liar’ as anything but a phony who is attempting to appear ‘intelligent’ when in fact he is a ‘dumb’ puppet of some far left wing radicals composed of people like the Weatherman leaders; Dhorn and Ayers, Rev. Wright who is the sickest …wrong person to have associated with to claim to be a Christian.
    15th: In the end of it all… history will record that the ‘liar’ diligently worked to defraud the American citizens of their rights… and is the most “evil bastard” that has ever entered American’s White House.

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

  29. courage
    January 6th, 2013 @ 9:55 am

    Jerry’s link not found. Here is another link to view H.R.15 legislation:

    http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-joint-resolution/15/text

  30. The Truth
    January 6th, 2013 @ 10:01 am

    Great post and action Douglas Vogt!

  31. Jillian Wilson
    January 6th, 2013 @ 10:09 am

    Is this the way you treat people who attempt to engage in dialogue with you? Allow them to be attacked?

  32. Kevin Davidson
    January 6th, 2013 @ 10:28 am

    In reply to Mr. Vogt:

    I answered your complaint in May of 2011 on my blog here:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/05/reply-to-douglas-vogt/

    It is a long and detailed article and I will not attempt to summarize it here.

  33. Kevin Davidson
    January 6th, 2013 @ 10:34 am

    Additionally to Mr. Vogt:

    You say you believe that I was paid for my debunking of the birthers.

    Well, you believe a lot of things without a shred of evidence. Why should it surprise me that you did it again.

    I told Orly, although she didn’t report it in her article, that I’m not paid for my blogging activities, and have no direction from anybody else.

    I’m not looking at a prison term, but you might be looking at a lawsuit for libel.

  34. LETS HEAR IT
    January 6th, 2013 @ 11:17 am

    The halo is not from a scan. In Arpaio’s investigation expert Mara Zebest analysis states that the White house PDF was never scanned from a paper document, and was produced using a Mac computer and 2 different programs to produce it. According to her, this document is only a paper document when you hit print on your computer. The defense should be happy that Dr. Taitz is asking for the origins for comparison to the PDF’s. Because they did not provide a defense to her charges, and are in default, the judge should be compelled to rule against them.

    The best defense to her charges, is to provide the originals and prove her allegations are false. In a normal case like this the defense would subpoena the origins to prove Dr. Taitz wrong.

    Very simply- Dr. Taitz and her clients have an injury, the courts can provide relief, the clients have standing, the filing was ripe and timely, the case was not moot, the defense did not refute the charges. At this point the the judge should rule in Taitz’s favor. The defense should be requesting an evidence hearing to disprove her charges. She is helping the defense because she subpoenaed the evidence that could disprove her charges.

    If her case does not advance are the Judges in dereliction of their duty? Are they denying rights? Are the politicizing the courts? Are they to be named in Dr. Taitz’s RICO suit? Are they Treasonous in the Usurpation of the USA? Are these grounds for judicial impeachment by the legislative branch?

    These are questions I would not want to have to answer if I were a judge. I would either rule in Taitz favor or move to evidence hearing ASAP.

    And regarding the “what part of second do not understand”. If your injured party were in first they would not be in front of the judge.

  35. Angie from Brooklyn
    January 6th, 2013 @ 11:39 am

    My Dearest Draco Sister
    I tossed and tumbled and laidwaiting for the results all day. I just want you to know one thing
    THE FONTS MUST ALL MATCH , no way a scanded document would have different letters. All letters would be the same. Every Abcdefghijklmnop would be the same from the same type writter. Case closed ,NEVER let them blow smoke up yer keister on this issue. Maybe we need to take our happy arses and demand a court order to the micro film , UNDER THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT crap we have. Maybe an ” emergency motion “in Missisippi case for the micro fish to be copied by a court appointed person. Of course said person should be From the great State of Mississippi . Let Hawii deny the court order and then go federal under the FULL FAITH AND CREDIT .
    I was never a birther but I have a brain and after looking into this all I can say or need to say is The FONTS don’t MATCH
    Orly just close your eyes and ask the Draco Angels to help you. I have convinced myself you are of Draco blood. And are a watcher Angel , are you B negitive blood type by chance ? Anyway, I know and understand if you don’t want to answer kinda a personal question . But let me know if you ever need a pint or 2! LoL
    Also Orly can you please get a chat we can respond to the demon rats with ? I have a few choice words for several of them and I could can and will spend mad hours defending you as will several others.
    Love You and soon our cup will overflow with victory and the impailment of these demons , Happy New Year
    Angie

  36. Fred
    January 6th, 2013 @ 12:01 pm

    To Kevin Davidson.

    Debunking requires EVIDENCE, of which u have absolutely none that prove that the guy you are supporting has ANY valid documentation as to who he is.

    His college records, SEALED. His school records, SEALED. His passports, SEALED. His birth certificate, SEALED. All of his identifying papers are SEALED.

    The evidence that you need to debunk anyone in the so called birther movement is sealed man.

    The posted BC has been proven over and over to be a forgery and a bad forgery at that.

    Exactly, what part of SEALED and forgery do you not understand.

  37. Earl Gordon
    January 6th, 2013 @ 12:43 pm

    From previous posts, I understood that Onaka under sworn testimony stated that the birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii doesn’t exist.

  38. Douglas Vogt
    January 6th, 2013 @ 12:58 pm

    Response to Kevin Davidson,

    First of all I am the one that has a clear cut cast for libel against you. Remember you are the one who called me a liar. Secondly stating the law to you is not libel nor is it threatening. For you to respond with a libel statement, which is untrue, may indicate to me that you have some exposure. Also if you want to sue me be my guest, the discovery stage will be very interesting and we will find out if you were paid or not. On the point of payment from the Obama handlers, if you read the statutes again (I included it below) you don’t have to be paid at all. It’s your involvement!! You already admitted you were “a leader of the Obama technical defense on the internet for 4 years.” Sorry Kevin, you have admitted you were involved with members of the administration to organize a defense from the truth and your actions for the last 2 years support it.
    You know that I have been selling scanners since 1994 and I know how they work and all the major manufacturers know me. You said the following in your talk with Orly: “His response was that the letters are of different fonts and spaces and different shapes because of the scanner.” This is totally untrue. You cannot duplicate that on any working scanner, it’s just a camera (CIS or CCD) and it cannot possibly change the sizes of letters within a document randomly like what is seen on Obama’s COLB. You made that answer up just to come up with some explanation that you knew you couldn’t possibly refute. Only the dumb and stupid would accept such a statement without any proof to back it up.. John Woodman did the same technique in his book, but it’s not going to work. You keep digging yourself a deeper hole.
    The other thing that surprised me is that you took the word of some unknown person in Brazil who says that “that in some instances when MRC compression is done, there can be a halo effect and that this compression can be done by some scanners.” For one thing the scanner does not do that, they only produce uncompressed Tiffs or group 4 Tiffs. It’s the software that save the image file to what ever you want. This person’s statement is totally false. We did the experiments on multiple scanners and different settings. The scanner cannot do that, It’s just not true and we have the experimental results to prove it. Do you?
    The whole subject of the technical aspects of the birth certificate is obviously way over your head and beyond your ability to answer Paul or me. Collectively we have over 90 years experience in topography, graphics, computer graphics, scanners, document imaging and typewriters. What do you have?

    Title 18, Chapter 1 General Provisions; Section. 3. Accessory after the fact, Statute:
    Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact. Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.

    You see dear Kevin, you don’t have to be paid at all to be an accessory after the fact. You just have to render assistance and you admitted you were “a leader of the Obama technical defense on the internet for 4 years.” Didn’t you think about the consequences of what you were doing? Didn’t it dawn on you: why is this man, Obama, need to hire about 100 Obots to suppress any truthful evidence that would be published about his birth certificate? A truthful man with a legitimate birth certificate does not need to hire hundreds of paid liars and millions to lawyers to defend him. You can’t be that stupid.
    That is why I asked you the simple question which I will repeat again: Why did you want a known socialist/communist to become president? Are you a socialist yourself?

  39. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 6th, 2013 @ 1:12 pm

    he never said this

  40. Redd E. Kilowatt
    January 6th, 2013 @ 2:21 pm

    Mr. Vogt

    You seem to be backtracking from your allegation that Davidson was paid. Is that correct? Did you report him and the others to the FBI?

  41. Kevin Davidson
    January 6th, 2013 @ 3:02 pm

    Mr Vogt:

    “You already admitted you were “a leader of the Obama technical defense on the internet for 4 years.””

    Those are Orly’s words, not mine. See:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/the-annotated-orly/

    I am not going to sue. I am a Christian and Jesus told his followers (Luke 12:58) not to get involved in lawsuits. redacted If I sued every time a birther yelled treason at an opponent, my whole life would be consumed by lawsuits. It doesn’t damage me when you utter such libel, and I have better things to do.

    I claim that you lied specifically when you said that a 2005 statute required scanning of birth certificates by states, something that you repeated under oath in Georgia. I read the statute you cited and what you said there was not in there. If you can find “scan” or “imaging system” anywhere in that statute. If it’s there, please show me and I will apologize.

  42. Itchik
    January 6th, 2013 @ 3:21 pm

    Douglas Vogt is 100% correct in his assessment of Kevin Davidson when he says Davidson isn’t intelligent enough or experienced enough to cover this subject. It is clearly way over his head technically. It does, however, illustrate one thing quite clearly – that Obama supporters are not very intelligent or at all honest. They assume that everyone else is just as stupid as they are – bit of solipsistic narcissism. How else could they expect anybody to believe the patently false and ridiculously silly explanations they offer to defend the Usurper? It is amazing to see the effort put into building wild and outlandish excuses in an effort to cover the Liar-in-Chief instead of simply showing us the proof. They don’t show the proof because IT DOES NOT EXIST. IT is really that simple.

    Kevin Davidson is at best an incompetent boob. He is more likely a filthy liar. Go ahead and sue me for libel, Kevin. I will be happy to show up in court with a few imaging engineers that will take your ridiculous claims apart like an old soggy box.

  43. Lady Liberty's Biggest Fan
    January 6th, 2013 @ 3:57 pm

    I googled Kevin Davidson and found him listed in San Diego! He lied about living in NC or wherever, he lives in San Diego and I pooped on his lawn this morning, for Liberty!

    – Bob Abooey

  44. EqualjusticeI
    January 6th, 2013 @ 3:57 pm

    Mr Vogt,
    I still have a copy of your complaint filed to the FBI. For all of us who support Dr Taitz we know who you are. For those who are new to this I left this article about your work. This has been a very interesting forum…keep it going.

    http://mobile.wnd.com/2011/05/305705/

  45. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    January 6th, 2013 @ 3:59 pm

    Davidson is a common name, i am sure there are a lot of Kevin Davidsons

  46. Douglas Vogt
    January 7th, 2013 @ 10:08 am

    Dear Kevin,

    Regarding payment, we know that Fogbow [his pen name] got paid for his efforts because he admitted to it. The Obots stayed on various blogs for 8 hours at a stretch-day in and day out. I am also an accountant and I can tell you that no one works at this for 2-4 years and not get paid somehow. It just doesn’t happen.
    But let’s say you didn’t get paid from the administration, then the burning question is WHY did you do it? Was it loyalty to the democratic party of old? Was it Ideological only—the burning desires to transform the country into a socialist hell? Why did you work on this since December 2008 till now? You had set up your web site just after the November election and it is obvious to anyone with an IQ over 85 that it was to for the purpose of putting down and criticism of and challenges of Obama’s short form birth certificate. Your actions demonstrate that there was long term planning involved in this effort. That also means that the administration knew they had a forged document and they had to stop all criticism before it got out of hand. In my opinion the evidence is that you are involved up to your eyeballs.
    The other question that you never answered is: What is your expertise in this field?
    All I want from you is some very simple answers—why did you do it?

    Regarding scanning of COLBs and the 2004 law, electronic imaging systems is what the law is referring to by electronic document systems. We know that most state had already implemented them including Hawaii because we got Virginia Sunahara’s death certificate and it was the result of a scanned image from the microfilm. I am in the process of reading ALL the states laws and administrative code on Vital Statistics and birth certificates. I have already finished 35 states and many of them specifically mention that a registrar can give a scanned image from there electronic document imaging system. Many state now have electronic filing systems that includes the process of scanning the COLB into it as an attached file. When you are prepared to read all the states laws and regulations, only then can you tell me that they don’t do it. Of course after you read them you would already know it is done all over the country.

  47. Lady Liberty's Biggest Fan
    January 7th, 2013 @ 2:24 pm

    Well, all I know is, I found Kevin Davidson in San Diego and I confronted him. I waited in front of his house until he came out to get the paper and I asked him why he hates America and liberty. He pretended like he didn’t know what I was talking about, which is what these Obots do. I am going to spend the evening talking to his neighbors and tell them what a vile treasoner he is and to donate money to Dr. Orly Taitz! Lady Liberty!

    – Bob Abooey

  48. Acompte Gerkhoul
    January 9th, 2013 @ 12:09 pm

    Orly,

    YOu have no idea what it is that I do to you, when I do it, nor who pays me or how they pay me.

    The bottom line is that you’ll never succeed on your quest to unseat the President because there are some very very deep pockets that are working, and I might add not hard at all but working nonetheless, to insure that every move that you make it met with obstacles, stone-walling, and barriers that are meant to insure that you fail.

    Good Luck, you are going to need it because the pockets that you are facing are much deeper that you and your band of flying monkeys.

    – Now post that if you dare –

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