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I need forensic document experts, signature experts, investigators to work on this and get any and all info

Posted on | March 1, 2010 | 3 Comments

Dear Orly,

Attached are Soc Sec Applications for Obama’s grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, and a woman named Shirley Jean (Applebee) Dunham born in Washington.

Also, attached is the accompanying letter to me from Dawn Wiggins, Freedom of Info Officer, Soc Sec.

It is VERY STRANGE that Stanley Dunham’s application has been filled out and signed by Goldie Owens, an employee of F. W. Wentworth Co. in Wichita, Kansas.  Where was he when Social Security first was made law, who was he working for when he should have had a SS number, and why did he not already have a SS number in 1937?

The SS number on Stanley’s form was hand written, but the numbers are partially pre-printed on the other 2 forms.

Also, VERY STRANGE that there is no residence address given for Stanley Dunham, no middle name, no birth date, no place of birth, no father’s name, no mother’s name, no registration card number from U.S. Employment Service, and most of all NO SIGNATURE of Stanley Dunham.  This sounds reminiscent to the missing information about Barack Obama.  Like Grandfather, like Grandson.  Could this lack of information for Stanley Dunham be a smoking gun?

The employee who signed for Wentworth’s states that Stanley Dunham left their employment on March 20, 1937.

His application has been trimmed off on the left side and on the bottom by someone at FOIA.  There are no initials showing at the lower left corner, as there are on the other 2 SS-5 forms.

Madelyn Dunahm’s form shows that she was living in Los Angeles, CA on Sept 19, 1940, and already married to Stanley, and that she was working for Sontag Drug Co in Inglewood, CA.  Could there be any info about the Dunhams left in Los Angeles or Inglewood, CA from the late 1930’s or early 1940’s?  Newspaper articles, property tax rolls, voter rolls, lien filings, court actions, etc?

The Shirley Jean (Applebee) Dunham SS-5 form appears to be for a woman unrelated to the Dunhams.

Sincerely,
Paula Hoehn

Soc Sec Application for Stanley Dunham

Soc Sec Application for Madelyn Dunham

Soc Sec Application for Shirley Jean (Applebee) Dunham

Letter from Dawn Wiggins, Freedom of Info Officer, Soc Sec

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3 Responses to “I need forensic document experts, signature experts, investigators to work on this and get any and all info”

  1. PJ Forsythe
    March 2nd, 2010 @ 2:32 am

    The “First” Social Security Number (SSN)

    Issued Through Local Post Offices

    Since the Social Security Board did not have a network of field offices in late 1936, it contracted with the U.S. Postal Service to distribute and assign the first batch of Social Security numbers through its 45,000 local post offices around the country. Of these 45,000 post offices, 1,074 were also designated as “typing centers” where the cards themselves were prepared. The procedure for issuing the first SSNs were that the SS-4 application forms were to be distributed by the post offices to employers beginning Monday, November 16, 1936. These forms asked the employers to indicate how many employees they had at their place of business. Using the data from the SS-4 forms, the post offices then supplied an SS-5 form for each employee and these forms (on which the assignment of an SSN was based) were to be distributed by the post offices beginning Tuesday, November 24, 1936. The completed SS-5 forms were returned to the post office where an SSN would be assigned and a card typed with the name and SSN. This step could happen on one of several ways. The person could return the card in person and wait while the “typing center” prepared their card, or they could hand the form to their local letter carrier, or they could put it in the mail. Once the SSN was assigned and the card typed, the local letter carrier then returned the card to the place of business as a piece of regular mail. The record of the SSN assignment was sent to Social Security headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland, where the master file of SSNs would be kept.

    So the first card was issued, sometime in mid-November, 1936, somewhere in one of 1,074 post offices to someone whose identity and SSN are unknown. In theory, the first card should have been issued on November 24th, but there have been reports of cards showing earlier dates. It is not clear whether the cards with earlier dates were actually issued on that day or whether some post offices predated some of their cards. If the 45,000 local post offices followed their procedures, no cards could have been issued before November 16th, and none should have been issued before November 24th. But here again, there is always the possibility that some local post offices failed to follow their instructions. The best we can say with certainty is that the first SSN was issued sometime in mid-November 1936. In any case, on whatever day the first card was issued, hundreds of thousands of SSNs were probably issued on that same day, so many people had Social Security cards issued on the very first day they became available.

  2. Steve Cain
    March 2nd, 2010 @ 5:02 am

    Dear Dr. Taitz,

    I am an expert with over 20 years experience in examining documents, audio and video tapes for the U.S. Department of Justice (includes the White House Senate Select Judiciary Committee: Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill, the Senate Investigation Sub-Committee: “China Gate” Investigation), U.S. Attorney’s Office, over 100 Public Defender offices, F.B.I., S.E.C., D.E.A., Customs, I.R.S., Secret Service, A.T.F., and over 1,000 law firms in both criminal and civil cases in the U.S. and overseas.

    I have seen a lot of questionable documentation released on the internet and television. I would like to examine any documents you have in order to ascertain their veracity. I am willing to do this pro-bono, for the good of our nation.

    Please contact me so I can begin my analysis.

    Thanks,

    Steve Cain

  3. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    March 2nd, 2010 @ 10:04 am

    call me 949-683-5411. since I don’t know you and don’t want to show all the cards in an ongoing litigation, I have to be careful, I can forward some docs one at a time, and we’ll go from there

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