Important, help in research needed
Posted on | October 19, 2009 | 26 Comments
I am trying to ascertain what happened to this individual, who was born in 1890 in CT, received his ss number in CT between 1977-1979 (probably he needed it for some ss benefits or medicaid benefits in his older age) , and whose ss Obama used most of his life.
We already know that another ss Obama used 485-40-5154 was issued in IA to Lucille Ballantyne, born 12.22.1912, deceased 09.13.1998. Last residence was at 50140 Lamoni, Decatar, IA. Does anyone know where did she die, how?
I am deeply concerned, what happened to the person whose ss Obama used in MA, Chicago and currently using in DC? This person (could have been a man or woman) was born in 1890 and would’ve been 119 years old today. Since we don’t know of any 119 y.olds in this country, it is safe to assume this person is deceased. I am greatly alarmed, why isn’t he noted as deceased in the National databases. Why is Obama using his ss with such unbelievable arrogance? Does he know how this person died? Is he sure for some reason that no one will be reporting his death today or tomorrow?
I need more info on other deaths:
1. death of Renee Abima Obama – 3 months old, birth and death were reported in Springfield MD. Was there a doctor in ATTENDENCE, who reported her death? Coroner?
2. Was there any doctor, who recorded death of Madelyn Payne Dunham? Is there a coroner’s report?
3.Was there a doctor present when Stanley Ann Dunham died? Is there a death certificate signed by a doctor in attendance? coroner’s report?
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October 19th, 2009 @ 5:27 pm
Hello Orly, I’m curious as to how you know obamma used other peoples SS numbers? To me, this is very damning evidence, and if true almost certainly means he is not a US citizen.
Can FOIA be used to get bho’s tax returns or other documents that would contain SS numbers he may have used?
a big fan and soon to be supporter,
Steve
October 19th, 2009 @ 5:31 pm
Orly,
What is the social that he is currently using? It would be much easier to track some info with the current number. Thanks!
Bless You!
Leslie
October 19th, 2009 @ 6:07 pm
Lamoni and Decatur are two differnt cities in IA.
Here is a database that includes Lucille Ballantyne:
https://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?utm_source=afftrac&utm_medium=affz&utm_campaign=pre-FLCS&fn=Lucille&ln=Ballantyne&city=Decatar&state=&processed=1
October 19th, 2009 @ 6:26 pm
Was there any medical personnel in attendence when Obama’s granny died in Hawaii?
How do we know if she is really dead?
Something smells fishy to me . . .
October 19th, 2009 @ 8:02 pm
LUCILLE I BALLANTYNE 22 Dec 1912 13 Sep 1998 (V) 50140 (Lamoni, Decatur, IA) (none specified) 485-40-5154 Iowa SS-5 Letter
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Lamoni is a town, Decater is a town and also the county where lamoni is located, she died in Lamoni, will try to find out more
October 19th, 2009 @ 9:12 pm
Dear Dr. Orly….I thought you might like to read this article…VERY interesting.
https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/recollections-of-obamas-ex-roommate/
Thanks and GOD BLESS..
October 19th, 2009 @ 11:12 pm
Lucille Ballantyne was born Lucille Ione Barnett. Her parents names are Harry C & Florence (Harner) Barnett. Lucille married Clay harold Ballantyne on 2/12/1933 near Lamoni, Iowa. There is one living decendent of Lucille and Clay. I will try and locate this person.
October 19th, 2009 @ 11:27 pm
OK.. there are several Ballantynes living in or near Lamoni, Iowa. They are:
Bev…(641)784-6621
Bill…(641)784-6282
Richard L. & Bonnie E.(641)784-6523
Mark E. & Deanna L. (641)784-6685
Gary C. (641)784-8405
Neva J. (641)784-6145
Sara (641)784-4621
October 19th, 2009 @ 11:35 pm
We need to find out where Obama got her SS number. His grandmother Madelyn Dunham volunteered in the probate department of Oahu circuit court. Did this Mrs Ballantym go to HI? Did any of themlive in HI? Got a mortgage in Hi or in WA state?
October 19th, 2009 @ 11:36 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Scowcroft
“Brent Scowcroft (born March 19, 1925 in Ogden, Utah) was the United States National Security Advisor under Presidents Gerald Ford and George H. W. Bush and a Lieutenant General in the United States Air Force. He also served as Military Assistant to President Richard Nixon and as Deputy Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs in the Nixon and Ford administrations. He served as Chairman of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board under President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2005. He also assisted President Barack Obama in choosing his national security team.”
“Brent Scowcroft was born in Ogden, Utah to James Scowcroft, a grocer and business owner, and his wife, the former LUCILLE BALLANTYNE. He is a descendant of early 19th century immigrants from England, Scotland, Denmark, and Norway.”
October 20th, 2009 @ 6:32 am
Is this coincidence or wrong person?
Lucile Ballantyne
Brent Scowcroft (born March 19, 1925 in Ogden, Utah) was the United States National Security Advisor under Presidents Gerald Ford and George H. W. Bush and a Lieutenant General in the United States Air Force. He also served as Military Assistant to President Richard Nixon and as Deputy Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs in the Nixon and Ford administrations. He also served as Chairman of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board under President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2005.
t Scowcroft was born in Ogden, Utah to James Scowcroft, a grocer and business owner, and his wife, the former Lucile Ballantyne.
October 20th, 2009 @ 8:15 am
There are several entries at People Finders, the most interesting of which is:
BALLANTYNE, LUCILLE I Age: 96
LAMONI, IA
Related People: BALLANTYNE, CLAY (Age 101)
You can get more info for a fee.
October 20th, 2009 @ 9:08 am
Who’s to say that the SS Number No-blah-ma is using (from the 119 yr old person) is really even a person. Could this just be a fake person created to get a social security number? It seems O’s mom was corrupt way back then so she could have pulled strings with the Ford Foundation and other orgainizations just to get a fake SS#.
October 20th, 2009 @ 10:58 am
So far, I am not finding this family leaving Iowa at any time. it appears that Clay & Lucille were both born to families that lived in Iowa and that they stayed in iowa. I found Clay’s death as Feb. 2, 1995, again as living in Lamoni, Iowa. His SS# is: 478-46-2726
I’ll keep looking.
October 20th, 2009 @ 11:08 am
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2105973/posts
To: IrishMike
A little something from TexasDarlin’s blog:
FamilySearch® U.S. Social Security Death Index U.S. Social Security Death Index – Renee L. Abena Obama
Renee was born 31 Oct 2004 in Maryland and issued SSN 215-71-0752. U.S. Social Security Death Index – Caribbean Islands Birth: 31 Oct 2004 State Where Number was Issued: Maryland Death: 25 Dec 2004
Caribbean Islands? How does this play a part in this child’s short life? Who were the baby’s parents? I’m curious to how the child died, who the parents were, are the parent’s still alive, anything else. The SSN was assigned through the Enumeration at Birth process, no SS-5 Application exists.
Thought the birth timing – late 2004 in MD (DC area?) and the death location of the Caribbean were interesting.
Sad about the baby though.
43 posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:39:10 AM by RubyR
October 20th, 2009 @ 1:08 pm
Lucille Ballantyne, last known address was listed as Lamoni Manor 515-784-3764
October 20th, 2009 @ 1:33 pm
Orly,
Lucille Ione Barnett was married to Harold Clay Ballantyne (deceased). She did die in Decatur, however, she didn’t come up in the deed records from a quick glance.
They had two children- one of the children is a son who appears to have a facebook page as well as the link below – sounds like he’s interesed in the 9/11 truthers:
His name is Harry Clay Ballantyne (born: 02-01-1935) I think you’ll find this interesting: https://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=992062
I believe he lives in SYKESVILLE, MD 21784 with his wife Betty Jane and several children – one of these phone numbers listed for them may be useful:
(410) 442-2426
(410) 442-0214
(410) 442-2122
(410) 489-0082
October 20th, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
There you go!!! That’s the answer1 This guy, Harry C. Ballantyne actually worked for the SS office. This was posted on his web site:
Studied one year at Graceland University in my home town of Lamoni, Iowa, following graduation from Lamoni High School in 1953. Earned a B. S. degree in physics at Iowa State College in 1957. Began working as an actuary for the Social Security Administration in 1958. Became Deputy Chief Actuary for Short-Range Estimates in 1975. Became Chief Actuary of Social Security in 1982, and retired from that position in 2001.
October 20th, 2009 @ 4:51 pm
I just received an email from Harry Clay Ballantyne who said in the email he is the son of Lucille Ballantyne. I found him through facebook. I contacted him through the email address on Facebook. He has already received one other inquiry about his mother on Facebook.
He has contributed to the Democratic Party including $300 to the Obama campaign. He is suspicious so I haven’t contacted him. You should know he worked for the Social Security Administration in Baltimore Maryland.
October 20th, 2009 @ 5:08 pm
Just for clarity:
Lamoni, Iowa is a small town in Decatur County. He is the home of Graceland College (LDS – Mormon).
Harry Clay Ballantyne graduated from Graceland College. Many family records can be found at the Mormon Genealogy site.
October 20th, 2009 @ 6:36 pm
Naum Gabo AKA Naum Neemia Pevsner Born Aug 5, 1890 d. Aug 23, 1977 Waterbury, CT
Could this be the person listed on Susan Daniels affidavit. If you click on all the links in the 1st website you can see why they thought it was safe to use this guy’s ssn. Just too much of a coincidence.
https://www.nndb.com/people/926/000084674/
https://www.bookrags.com/Naum_Gabo
https://www.ask.com/web?&o=101881&l=dis&q=Naum%20Neemia%20Pevsner
October 20th, 2009 @ 7:40 pm
Obama obtained this ss number in Connecticut in 1977 – 1979 when he supposedly was in Hawaii at ages 16 – 18 and in high school. How could that happen? Where did he get this ss number? Did his grandma get it for him? And who did it belong to previously that was born in 1890?
October 20th, 2009 @ 8:00 pm
Rosemary: Naum Gabo had ss#102-28-2823 and this is not the ss# that Obama is using! The name Naum Neemia Pevsner didn’t show any ss#’s.
October 21st, 2009 @ 10:20 am
The SSDI online does not show the records for all persons who died with a ss number. This I know for a fact as my father who died in 1963 who according to his death certificate had a ss number, however, he is not listed in the SSDI.
The answer to where did Barack Obama’s ss number starting with 042 come from is probably answered here. Since he was 16 – 19 years old in 1977 – 1979 and was not living in Connecticut his grandmother probably got his number for him as she knew that he was an illegal alien and did not qualify to have a ss number.
https://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2009/10/is-barack-hussein-obama-nothing-more.html
.“What is interesting to
note is that Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was a volunteer at the
Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security
numbers of deceased people.”
“MadelineDunham was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.”
October 24th, 2009 @ 10:07 am
What might have been the point in Obama wanting to use so many different Social Security numbers?
Could it have been an attempt to fake US citizenship? Or was it to collect social security money? Or to request a passport? Or to fake citizenship when attemptig to file an income tax form to pretend he was an American citizen? Or something else?
What is the penalty for such a crime?
October 26th, 2009 @ 11:24 am
You do not need to be a US Citizen to get a SSN. All foreign students are allowed to work for the four years they are in country and one year after. They are all given an SSN when they apply for one to work. They only have to show their passport and student visa. I know this first hand as I had a Korean volunteer in my office in Seoul, S> Korea who graduated from Michigan State and had a SSN to work. I also checked into it when my Korean grandnephew came to live with me for a year. He could not get one as he was too young to work. Otherwise, his age was the only negative factor. Obama could have gotten an SSN as a foreign student at Oxidental College.