You can see the response from Roger West, lead attorney for Obama
Posted on | October 7, 2009 | 20 Comments
Laconic Response from AUSA Roger West
Wednesday, October 7, 2009 12:03 PM From: This sender is DomainKeys verified “Charles Lincoln” <charles.lincoln@rocketmail.com>View contact details To: “Dr. Orly Taitz” <dr_taitz@yahoo.com> RE: Dr. Taitz seeks stipulation re: Discovery. Mittwoch, den 7. Oktober 2009, 11:31:18 Uhr
| Von: | “West, Roger (USACAC)” <Roger.West4@usdoj.gov>Karte anzeigen | |
| An: | Charles Lincoln <charles.lincoln@rocketmail.com> |
Nuts.
From: Charles Lincoln [mailto:charles.lincoln@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:11 AM
To: Dejute, David (USACAC); West, Roger (USACAC)
Subject: Dr. Taitz seeks stipulation re: Discovery.
Dear Messers DeJute & West:
Dr. Taitz has asked me to ask you whether you are willing to stipulate that, now that the Scheduling Order has been made final, rather than moot, that it is now time for us to begin discovery. We need to start sending out notices of deposition duces tecum to parties and subpoenas duces tecum to non-parties. The Judge specifically said that the Scheduling order would only be important if the case were going to go forward, and he seems to have spoken on this point.
Charles E. Lincoln, Research Associate & Law Clerk for Dr. Taitz, Esq., Attorney for the Plaintiffs.
Deo Vindice
“May the Lord God be with you,
and with thy spirit!”
My assistant, Mr. Lincoln has contacted Roger West, assistant US attorney, lead attorney representing the defendants, asking to stipulate to discovery in light of today’s order by Judge Carter. You can see his polite and constructive response “Nuts”. I wonder, if I wasn’t a woman, if I was a part of good old boys club, would there be a more appropriate response.
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October 7th, 2009 @ 3:35 pm
If I were him, I would have said !@#$% ^&*( and then some…. Happy Days r here again.
October 7th, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
What a theatrical response from Mr. West – “nuts”. That’s the same line when Col Harper delivered BGen McAuliffe’s response to the Germans as they surrounded Bastogne.
Nice try but it doesn’t carry the same patriot message.
October 7th, 2009 @ 3:51 pm
‘Nuts’ That’s the same answer that US General Anthony McAuliffe sent to the Germans on December 22, 1944 when the German army demanded that he surrender his 101st Airborne Division at Bastogne.
So your opponent maybe has a sense of history and has put you in the role of the soon to be defeated German Army.
I think we need to teach this “lawyer” a thing or two. I hope and trust that we (YOU) will.
Best wishes always.
George
October 7th, 2009 @ 3:58 pm
The response is “definitely not affirmative”, and, given the context, is intended to foreshadow defeat for plaintiffs in this case.
Consider the following from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
Joseph H. Harper
Joseph H. “Bud” Harper was a United States Army officer. Harper was the officer who delivered General Anthony McAuliffe’s one-word response, “Nuts”, to the German request for the surrender of Bastogne.
Though not a graduate of West Point, Colonel Harper had been appointed to command the 401st Glider Infantry Regiment. When the 401st was split to expand the 325th Glider Infantry Regiment and 327th Glider Infantry Regiment from two battalions to three, Harper took command of the 327th.
“Nuts!”
During the siege of Bastogne in the Battle of the Bulge, two German officers and two enlisted men came in the lines of the 327th carrying a white flag. They bore a note from the German commander requesting that the Americans surrender. Harper was contacted and personally took the German’s request to the Division command post. Brigadier General McAuliffe, who was in temporary command of the Division sent Harper back with the now-famous one word response, “Nuts.”
Harper returned to the German officers with a medic, Ernie Premetz, as his translator.
I have the commander’s reply, Harper said. He handed it to one of the German officers, who unfolded and read it. He looked up, puzzled.
“What does that mean?” he asked. “Is this affirmative or negative?”
“Definitely not affirmative,” Harper said.
The Germans were confused by the use of American slang. Most accounts report Harper as saying something along the lines of
“If you don’t know what ‘Nuts’ means, in plain English it is the same as ‘Go to Hell’. And I’ll tell you something else, if you continue to attack we will kill every goddamn German that tries to break into this city.”
Premetz recalls that Harper attempted to angrily explain in English, but that he (Premetz) translated for them – “Du kannst zum Teufel gehen.” (You can go to hell.)
October 7th, 2009 @ 3:59 pm
The response is “definitely not affirmative.”
Given the context, it appears to be intended to foreshadow defeat for plaintiffs in this case.
Consider the following from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
Joseph H. Harper
Joseph H. “Bud” Harper was a United States Army officer. Harper was the officer who delivered General Anthony McAuliffe’s one-word response, “Nuts”, to the German request for the surrender of Bastogne.
Though not a graduate of West Point, Colonel Harper had been appointed to command the 401st Glider Infantry Regiment. When the 401st was split to expand the 325th Glider Infantry Regiment and 327th Glider Infantry Regiment from two battalions to three, Harper took command of the 327th.
“Nuts!”
During the siege of Bastogne in the Battle of the Bulge, two German officers and two enlisted men came in the lines of the 327th carrying a white flag. They bore a note from the German commander requesting that the Americans surrender. Harper was contacted and personally took the German’s request to the Division command post. Brigadier General McAuliffe, who was in temporary command of the Division sent Harper back with the now-famous one word response, “Nuts.”
Harper returned to the German officers with a medic, Ernie Premetz, as his translator.
I have the commander’s reply, Harper said. He handed it to one of the German officers, who unfolded and read it. He looked up, puzzled.
“What does that mean?” he asked. “Is this affirmative or negative?”
“Definitely not affirmative,” Harper said.
The Germans were confused by the use of American slang. Most accounts report Harper as saying something along the lines of
“If you don’t know what ‘Nuts’ means, in plain English it is the same as ‘Go to Hell’. And I’ll tell you something else, if you continue to attack we will kill every goddamn German that tries to break into this city.”
Premetz recalls that Harper attempted to angrily explain in English, but that he (Premetz) translated for them – “Du kannst zum Teufel gehen.” (You can go to hell.)
October 7th, 2009 @ 4:08 pm
Congradulations Orly.
May the Lord bless and keep you.
Thank you for your work and dedication.
“You Can Lead an Obot to Evidence but You Can’t Make Him Think,”
October 7th, 2009 @ 4:51 pm
We need to pray for the Judge Carter’s protection.
We dont know how far the obama people can go. And from what I’ve seen and heard, this man needs 24/7 protection.
Trust, no one! Pray that God will build a headge around him and cover him.
October 7th, 2009 @ 5:09 pm
For those unfamiliar, the response “Nuts” has historical significance.
Brig. General Anthony C. McAuliffe, in charge of US forces surrounded by Nazi forces in the Battle of Bastongne, when all seemed lost, in the heart of a snowy winter day, after massive setbacks and losses, was presented with an offer from the German commander to surrender the US forces. Not knowing that Gen Patton was on the way to support the beleagered US forces, BG McAuliffe answered the Nazi commander with the one word rebuff – “Nuts”
This response has since come to be understood as valiant resolve in the face of apparent and eminent defeat.
He’s rejecting your suggestion to commence discovery.
I would tell Mr. West that Gen Patton is dead.
October 7th, 2009 @ 5:38 pm
As history goes, General Tony McAuliffe was in and impossible situation, almost out of supplies, ammunition and surrounded by Germans at Bastogne when he used this famous WWII response when asked to surrender (NUTS!). The saving grace was General George Patton’s, 3th Army, entire force of 250,000 men executing the most dramatic rescue in military history. This would imply that someone will be coming to a dramatic rescue? Who? History also tells us that Patriots can prevail over tyranny!
October 7th, 2009 @ 5:46 pm
Orly :
FANTASTIC !! WHAT GREAT NEWS !!
NOT OVER YET….. BUT AT LEAST IT’S GOING FORWARD.
What happens at the Summary Judgement hearing ?
Is that another place where the judge could wimp out and dismiss the case ?
I hope not.
October 7th, 2009 @ 6:38 pm
By 21 December, the German forces had surrounded Bastogne, which was defended by the 101st Airborne and Combat Command B of the 10th Armored Division. … The German commander, Generalleutnant Heinrich Freiherr von Lüttwitz, requested Bastogne’s surrender.[23] When General Anthony McAuliffe, acting commander of the 101st, was told, a frustrated McAuliffe responded, “Nuts!” After turning to other pressing issues, his staff reminded him that they should reply to the German demand. One officer (Harry W. O. Kinnard, then a Lieutenant Colonel) recommended that McAuliffe’s initial reply would be “tough to beat”. Thus McAuliffe wrote on the paper delivered to the Germans: “NUTS!” That reply had to be explained, both to the Germans and to non-American Allies.[24]
October 7th, 2009 @ 7:24 pm
Why is an attorney from the US Attorney’s Office reperesenting Barack Obama on a matter filed against him personally, and not against him as the legitimate President of the United States. This matter challenges his right to hold the office of President of the United States, not his legitimate duties as the POTUS. If memory serves me correctly, George W. Bush personally hired attorney William Bennett to represent him while he was serving as POTUS, and paid for these legal services himself.
These charges filed against Obama are as a result of fraudulent acts and actions he committed before the 2008 election, and his defense costs should be paid personally by Barack H. Obama, not by the American taxpayers! I for one do not want to pay Obama’s personal legal expenses!
October 7th, 2009 @ 8:45 pm
Orly, my lady, I have noticed a streak of bigotry or even jealousy among those male attorneys in their defense. One can almost see the displeasure in their words – having to defend the president of the United States against a WOMAN?
Keep trying guys – Herr West et al – the false scales of justice have tipped far over in your direction; you have everything on your side except the TRUTH.
October 7th, 2009 @ 9:54 pm
THERE WAS A WARNING ON THE SCREEN THAT YOUR BLOG SITE MIGHT HURT MY COMPUTER. IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET TO YOUR SITE. YOU ARE BEING ATTACKED ON THE INTERNET
October 8th, 2009 @ 2:26 am
Real professional of them.
October 8th, 2009 @ 3:05 am
Orly,
There are only 2 possible ways he could use the word “nuts”.
1)……“nuts” as used in a derogatory manner whereby he is claiming you and or group are lunatics, delusional, mentally offset or some other related word.
2)……“nuts” as used in admitting worrisome, failure, recognizing defeat or some other related word.
I hope he meant the use of “nuts” as in the second meaning. Either of which, is not a professional response.
October 8th, 2009 @ 3:10 am
“THERE WAS A WARNING ON THE SCREEN THAT YOUR BLOG SITE MIGHT HURT MY COMPUTER. IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET TO YOUR SITE. YOU ARE BEING ATTACKED ON THE INTERNET”———Of course, Dr. Taitz is being attacked on the Internet and everywhere else possible. The obots fear her greatly and even more with each success. The obots are trying anything and everything to sabotage her efforts and to shield their Messiah from discovery, including posting *false* statements that access to her site will cause a crash, a virus, a hurricane, an earthquake, a pestilence, you name it. Google and Yahoo are internally tainted with obots, so they are in cahoots, as well.
October 8th, 2009 @ 5:07 am
As for their second comment : “You are obviously not a student of military history.”
Well, when General McAuliffe made that statement “Nuts” , he was totally surrounded by the Germans in Bastogne and on the edge of defeat. Is that how the DOJ is feeling now ? On the edge of defeat ?
October 8th, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
It seems Roger West believes he is in the position of the Americans at Bastogne during World War II. Surrounded and outnumbered by vastly superior forces and with little food and ammunition, the Germans demanded of the American General in charge (General Anthony C. McAuliffe) that he surrender. General McAuliffe’s one word response was “Nuts”.
So it appears Roger West believes he is surrounded and outnumbered (LOL) but he is not going to surrender, thus his copycat response using the word “Nuts”.
Here is a brief explanation of that historic event during WWII.
The Battle of the Bulge “The defense of Bastogne”.
Optimism was absent from the German command. In September 1944, as the Russians halted their advance on Warsaw and the Allies stalled in Holland in Operation Market-Garden, Hitler stunned his generals with a bold plan reminiscent of the 1940 campaign. Panzer divisions backed by Volksturm units would smash through the weakly defended Ardennes and head for Antwerp, cutting off the Allied supply lines. Special English-speaking units in modified German armor and captured American equipment would range out ahead of the Panzers, causing confusion and creating fear among the ranks.The bold plan included a large, desperate attack by the remaining Luftwaffe units on the Allied airfields.
Meanwhile, the Allies ignored the warnings of the German buildup. An intelligence officer than claimed a coming German offensive would start in the Ardennes was sent on leave. Reports of the few divisions in the area that new units were entering the area were discounted. German prisoners-of-war were radiating confidence and did not seem to be beaten.
The Americans had only a few divisions, including the 106th division, in the Ardennes guarding a fifty-mile front. The area was used to rest and refit divisions coming off the line, or to organize new units.
The Germans poured fourteen infantry divisions and five Panzer divisions into this front, smashing the new 106th division out of existence.
The Germans raced for Antwerp, led by a SS armored column under the command of SS Gruppenführer Joachim Peiper. Initially, confusion over the nature of the offensive went as far as SHAEF headquarters in Paris. Bradley thought it was just an attempt to delay the offensive in the Rhine, but the British, mindful of the same tactic in 1940, warned that it might be a full-blown offensive. By noon of December 17 the Allied intelligence counted twenty-four new German divisions. The Americans iconically nicknamed the offensive the “Battle of the Bulge.”
Finally realizing that this was a major offensive, Eisenhower sent the Airborne divisions refitting after Market-Garden to take Bastogne and Saint-Vith. The 101st Airborne, whose defense of Bastogne would become legendary, arrived by truck just hours before the town was cut off and surrounded, supported by units of the 10th armored. “Visualize the hole in a doughnut,” the 101st radioed SHAEF Headquarters in Paris, “That’s us.”
Bad weather grounded the Allied air forces and prevented resupply. They were to hold the town with little supplies and a few tanks and vehicles. A store of flour in a Belgian warehouse fed the 101st with flapjack pancakes. American GIs retreating from the German advance stopped and joined in the defense. Artillery was set up in the center of town to give the defenders support anywhere along the lines, and from their arrival on December 18th until the day after Christmas, the 101st beat back German attacks.
During the battle, the German commander charged with taking the vital crossroads sent a long letter to General Anthony C. McAuliffe, calling for his surrender. McAuliffe’s one-word reply, “NUTS!” indicated the determination of the 101st to hang on.
Meanwhile, Americans all over the battlefield were showing incredible courage. Sometimes outnumbered five-to-one, infantry units stopped or held up the German advance. The American manpower shortage was becoming critical. The Ardennes Offensive was turning into a infantrymen’s battle. In the bitter cold, the Americans and the Germans were fighting on foot. Slowly, the Americans were closing the bulge.
After the 101st arrived on December 18, Eisenhower asked Patton how long it would take to wheel his Third Army around 90 degrees and attack the Germans to relieve Bastogne. Patton shocked everyone by announcing he would attack in forty-eight hours. The Third Army, led by the 4th Armored Division, moved through the Ardennes in a lighting maneuver. It would take them six days to reach Bastogne.
On December 22, the weather cleared and Allied planes could attack the Germans. Bastogne was resupplied by air. Combat Command R of the 4th Armored entered Bastogne on December 26.
January 3, 1945. Many Germans escaped before the Bulge was closed, but the bulk of German armor was destroyed.
Albert Speer, Reichminister for Armaments and War Production, wrote, “The failure of the Ardennes Offensive meant that the war was over.”
October 8th, 2009 @ 6:12 pm
Hi Orly,
Could this be why Roger West replied to you “NUTS”? It’s an historic quote from The Battle of the Bulge WW11
Be careful and thank you for all your efforts.
On 22 December 1944, during the Battle of the Bulge in World War II, Anthony Clement McAuliffe (1898-1975) was acting commander of the 101st Airborne Division in charge of the defense of Bastogne, Belgium. The advancing German forces called on his garrison to surrender. The Americans were surrounded. Instead, Anthony McAuliffe wrote:
“To the German Commander: NUTS! The American Commander.” Bastogne was successfully held by the Americans.
Pamela