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Transcript from July 13 hearing, please read extremely important.

Posted on | October 6, 2009 | 17 Comments

I am publishing this transcript of the July 13 hearing so that the public can see the truth.
What I’ve noticed it that Obama supporters are publishing some COMPLETE GARBAGE calling it unofficial transcripts. In reality they are distorting each and every word I am saying and trying to show me in a negative light. Somebody by name “Waveydavey” has written such garbage and distortions and Phil from “Right  side of Life” posted it.
When the transcript of the October 5 hearing is ready, I will post it.
In reality I carried most of the hearing on my shoulders.
Kreep showed up an hour late and was not prepared. He did not have any precedents, he did not provide a substantial argument.
I have provided numerous points and precedents in the argument and counted any and all ridiculous assertions by the US attorneys claiming that no one citizen of this country has standing to bring challenge to this massive fraud and treason perpetrated upon the citizens of this nation by the usurper and his accomplishes (as you understand US attorneys didn’t use this very language and definitions). the public was applauding me repeatedly.
Kreep also lied to the judge, where he stated that I have written on my blog that people should sue Kreep.  I never written that- the man is a pathological liar- it is appalling what he and Wiley Drake are doing. Drake is telling the public, media and donors that I was thrown of the legal team, so that all the donations go to Kreep. Somebody, also, told the judge that I have written on my blog to  people to  call the judge.  It never happened. I tried to correct the record but the judge would not let me speak further.
What concerns me more then anything else, is that Judge Carter sounded completely different from what he was in prior hearings on July 13 and September 8.
    
On July 13 I was entitled to get a Default judgment against Obama and postdefaultdiscovery, as I have properly sued Obama as an individual fora fraud that he committed as an individual before the election. I demanded from Judge Carter default or, if he is refusing to give me the default, I demanded a leave of court to get an interlocutory appeal. US attorney showed up at the hearing as a party of interest, representing USA and demanded to be served with the pleadings. He was stating that Obama was supposed to be served through the US attorneys office. I countered by stating that the service through US attorneys office is done, and defense by US attorneys at the expense of the tax payers is allowed only when a person is sued as a governmental official for what he did as an official. Obama defrauded the whole Nation, before becoming the president, by claiming to be eligible, and “we the people” should not pay for his defense, I served him properly and I am supposed toget a default judgment against him and a post judgment discovery.
Judge Carter refused to give me the default. He twisted my arm time and again and pressured me to serve Obama yet again through the US attorneys office.  At three different occasions at 10:40, 11:01 and 11:07 of the hearing judge Carter has assured me that if this deal is made, if I serve the US attorneys office, the case will be heard on the merits expeditiously   and will not be dismissed on technicality. As I was refusing, I stated that I have great concerns that the US attorneys will be playing games, as they did in prior cases and will try to dismiss this case on technicality such as jurisdiction os standing.
Please read 10:40 line 5.
Court (meaning judge Carter ) is saying “In talking to you this way you are basically told, we are going to get to the MERITS (emphasis added)  of this very quickly.   The government is just asking for what THEY believe is proper service.”  He did not state that I didn’t serve Obama properly, he is saying what They, the government, believes is the proper service.
At 11:01 line 13. he says “I wish this would be resolved on it’s MERITS QUICKLY. And he is either not the president or he is”
At 11:07 line 1  Judge Carter states “I mean if he is not president, he shouldn’t be president, if he is he should be. And we need to resolve it on the MERITS”
On September the 8th judge Carter told the US Attorneys West and DeJutte that the chance of him granting motion to dismiss due to lack of standing is extremely law and he is ready to rule and have a hearing on this on Sept 11 in 3 days. At that time Gary Kreepsqueezed himself in the case representing 2 out of 48 plaintiffs and demanded more time. The hearing was postponed by nearly a month. During this month something happened. At October 5 hearing Judge Carter sounded as a completely different person. He did not sound as a brave Marine any more. He sounded scared, intimidated by somebody or something. He was trying to find ways to dump this case on another court- like DC court, drag his feet by telling us to plead the case again or   dismiss on technicality- claiming no one has standing.
I poured my heart out for over an hour, and at least he didn’t come up with a negative decision right then and there, but I am concerned. We had a clear deal back in July. If Judge Carter makes a 180 degrees turn now and rules for Obama and does not give me expedited discovery and hearing on the merits as he repeatedly promised during the July 13 hearing, then I and my clients were defrauded by the court.  Then there is no system of justice for the citizens of this country.
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17 Responses to “Transcript from July 13 hearing, please read extremely important.”

  1. Harry H
    October 6th, 2009 @ 12:21 pm

    I’m not able to access the full transcript from here, but I deduce from the points Orly makes above that an appeal may become necessary, which means more heartbreaking (and nation-breaking) delay and more expense.

    This whole Obamagate travesty is going to go down in history as a pathetic mockery of lawful governance–and as everlasting shame for both Democrats and Republicans. But most politicians evidently don’t care about matters of conscience or Constitutional integrity anyway.

  2. Bruce Wiltse
    October 6th, 2009 @ 12:51 pm

    It is clearly time for all good men/women to come to the aid of their country including Judge Carter especially when the possibility exists that all USA citizens stand the chance of loosing their legal “standing” if he does not make the Constitutionally right decision. Why have “courts” when the merits of a case are not even allowed to be presented for evaluation? Hopefully the spirit of liberty and justice will prevail in this case and the discovery process will bring to light all the questions that have so diligently been blocked from our right to have a civil nation that is operated by the US Constitution.

  3. kw
    October 6th, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

    Well over 100 people at the Sept. hearing heard what Judge Carter said regarding hearing the merits of the case. He said the military takes orders from the commander in chief, but if Obama/Soetoro isn’t eligible for the presidency, as per the Constitution, then any military orders are without authority.

  4. MarkR
    October 6th, 2009 @ 1:33 pm

    Orly. I’m from outside the USA, so I can see that what is happening here is that the “resposible” Republican elements are most afraid of is a foundational threat to the USA, ie Civil War and disintegration. That is why they are so afraid of going after Obama. The Democrats, who are crypto communists don;t care about any potential damage. Theit revolutionary Marxist theory requires the USA be damaged to create revolutionary circumstances.

    The worst thing in US history was the Civil War, the Republicans will do anything to avoid that. Remember it was the Democrats who were originally the party of the Confederate Slave owning South.

  5. Roberta
    October 6th, 2009 @ 1:45 pm

    I was there at the hearing yesterday, and can confirm this account of the proceedings. I was one of the people applauding. You were well prepared and certainly did carry the weight of the argument. Terrific job, Orly, and a huge thank you for all you’ve accomplished thus far.

  6. KBB
    October 6th, 2009 @ 1:55 pm

    Dr. Orly, creep is disgusting. Please try to ignore his shenanigans. The important thing is that he doesn’t cause the judge to rule against you – that’s a very real concern. I sent an email to Bob Unruh, author of a WND article on the court results and copied you, setting the record straight on this jerk and his court behavior. How can a smart judge be so blind to such a dishonest and conniving man?
    We love you, Orly. Remember, you don’t have to convince us of what you do and what creep doesn’t do. We know the truth about who is the hero (heroine) in this crucial endeavor.

  7. Michael
    October 6th, 2009 @ 1:57 pm

    Orly, I am not a lawyer, but from what you are saying they want you to serve him through the US attorney’s office and when you do so it seems they are going to judge in Obama’s favour. I am praying that this case will not be closed on a technicality, you are a smart woman and it truly would be a disaster if this is going to happen. I am praying that God will give you favour with the Judge and that a way would open up for the facts of this case to clearly be seen and heard before it is too late. Be brave and I pray the Lord will strengthen you and give you wisdom to know what to do next. We all love and pray for your protection and victory.

  8. bacsi
    October 6th, 2009 @ 2:35 pm

    As usual, if there is a link to the transcript it isn’t working – all that comes up is the ‘Flag this message’ link.

    Corruption is all about smoke and mirrors when they still lack absolute power and have to hide their faces. You originally went to a Default hearing and now you are in a Twilight Zone situation being opposed by government lawyers… Unless Carter is willing to die or sacrifice loved ones to uphold his oath to the Constitution it will probably all go South. People in the States aren’t used to having to make such decisions and there is very little likelihood that he will.

    I’m not what you’d call religious, however, this country was founded on a deep profound belief in God. Perhaps there is still enough righteousness left for us to be saved from the folly of our actions.

    Washington had his Valley Forge and went on to victory. Unlike the Brit High Command which caved in and surrendered the impregnable fortress of Singapore to the besieging Japanese in WW II at the very moment the Japanese fired off the last of their ammunition in a blazing last ditch bluff.

    You’ve done wonders; keep the faith and hope for the best.

  9. Michelle
    October 6th, 2009 @ 3:13 pm

    Dear Dr. Orly-
    I was so struck by this during Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s speech at the UN. No documents stay secret forever. I would much rather have Obama’s documents revealed in an American court of law, rather than at the UN,but if that is the way it has to be, hopefully it will be by an ally as opposed to an enemy. I’m sure every foreign government has a copy of Obama’s fabricated documentation. Why? because they are not stupid.
    Last month, I went to a villa in a suburb of Berlin called Wannsee. There, on January 20, 1942, after a hearty meal, senior Nazi officials met and decided how to exterminate the Jewish people. The detailed minutes of that meeting have been preserved by successive German governments. Here is a copy of those minutes, in which the Nazis issued precise instructions on how to carry out the extermination of the Jews. Is this a lie? A day before I was in Wannsee, I was given in Berlin the original construction plans for the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp. Those plans are signed by Hitler’s deputy, Heinrich Himmler himself. Here is a copy of the plans for Auschwitz-Birkenau, where one million Jews were murdered. Is this too a lie?

  10. dayne herr
    October 6th, 2009 @ 4:45 pm

    “Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people,who…have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean, of the characters and conduct of their rulers.” JOHN ADAMS,1765. Dr. Taitz, God Bless.

  11. Mike
    October 6th, 2009 @ 6:09 pm

    FILE A SUIT IN ADMIRALTY ITS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET PAST THESE PEOPLE. GO AFTER THE SHIP-OF-STATE THROUGH THE WATERS THAT IT FLOATS. ADMIRALTY IS THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD LAW BY EVEN THE MOST EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS. IT CAN BE USED INLAND SEE ” UNITED STATE of America v. $3,976.62 IN CURRENCY, One 1960 Ford Station Wagon Serial No. 0C66W14329″. SEIZE THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

  12. flora naderi
    October 6th, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

    Orly,

    I like your pictures in Washington Post. You look great! Good Luck with Judge Carter and Judge Land!

    You are more persistent than the persistent. Keep on digging!

    Flora

  13. RadarCat
    October 6th, 2009 @ 7:50 pm

    It sounds to me like someone has made an extremely serious threat against Judge Carter.

    Now who could that be?

    RadarCat

  14. Michelle
    October 6th, 2009 @ 8:19 pm

    “He sounded scared, intimidated by somebody or something.” The only thing that would scare me that bad is if Obama threatened to bomb an American city. Scandals we’ve grown accustomed to their ugly faces. They are not fun for anyone but not worth a country.

  15. TurnRight
    October 7th, 2009 @ 12:25 am

    To read Anthony Martini’s full post, complete with a detailed description of what Martini says Judge Carter got wrong in the case… quite a few things… open up IXQUICK.com and do a web search for “Judge David O Carter.” The hit is on the first page and has the following as the leader:

    “JUDGE CARTER IS THE WORSE JUDGE IN THE UNITED STATES OF…… In today’s court Judge David O. Carter was continuously wiping the sweat off of … Now I know why JUDGE DAVID O. CARTER was continuously sweating.
    http://www.annettemartini.us/judgecarterfalseorder.html

    Parenthetically, I suppose inter-service rivalry can be a good thing if applied the right way. Okay Judge, General McCrystal has stood up to Obama by going public. He is Army. What branch is it you were you in?

    If your platoon leader sent you back for more ammo ’cause the doo-doo hit the fan and your guys are running low, would you come back up or would they find you back at battalion at the chaplain’s tent bawling your eyes out?

  16. pip
    October 7th, 2009 @ 4:06 am

    My heart goes out to you Orly. You have worked so tirelessly and dedicated so much of your time and energy to this case.

    It sickens me to read such nasty comments about you, but then that is to be expected from those who are riddled with such dishonesty, deceit and jealousy. Scum of the earth.

    Don’t let it deter you. You can defend yourself via this board (it would be a good idea for you, or someone close to you on this case, to have a backup board somewhere, maybe a freebie one (avoid a proboard one)).

    Judge Carter, no doubt, just like all the rest of the corrupt Judges, will have been ‘got at’ by the corrupt henchmen in the WH or he is petrified of the repercussions if he gives you any leeway. He is probably scared shi*less (the wimp!)…IF he is a real man with morals, he would do the right thing, but in my opinion, (from his comments made on the 5th) he is coming across as a man running scared.

    I hope so much I am proved wrong.

    Keep going gal!

  17. Jim Cumber
    October 8th, 2009 @ 12:41 pm

    Sounds to me like someone took from their belt their knife and made of the judge a eunuch…:(