Wow! Wow! Wow! Chief Justice of the 9th Circuit: if your party wanted to run a dog for the US President, should the Secretary of State allow a dog on the ballot, too?
Posted on | February 14, 2014 | 33 Comments
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A three judge panel of the 9th Circuit questions legitimacy of the Political question doctrine, which was used until today to allow Obama to run for President while Obama used a name not legally his and fabricated IDs.
Today a three judge panel presided over the case of Peta Lindsey et al v Secretary of State of California Bowen. 13-085. This case was noted in legal briefs by Attorney Taitz in CA and MS. The case revolves around a decision by SOS of CA Bowen to throw of the ballot a candidate for Presidnet from Peace and Freedom Party Peta Lindsey. Bowen did her own research and found that Lindsey is not constitutionally eligible for Presidency because she was not 35 years old at the time she ran for office. At the same time the same SOS Bowen refused to disqualify Obama and claimed Obama’s qualification is a political question doctrine, which is only up to the Congress to resolve. SOS of CA and lower court flagrantly engaged in violation of 14th amendment and violation of equal protection right as SOS Bowen removed from the ballot Lindsey but refused to remove equally ineligible Obama.
Today only Lindsey case was heard. The case was presided by the Chief Justice of the 9th Circuit Judge Alex Kozinski. When told about the political question doctrine, Kozinski responded: “What if your party were to run a dog for the US President, would the Secretary of State be obligated to put a dog on the ballot, too?
The panel consisted of ALEX KOZINSKI, DIARMUID F. O’SCANNLAIN and MARY H. MURGUIA. Judge O’Scanlain is the same judge, which upheld the second amendment rights in his decision against the San Diego County and found that “moral character” provision imposed by the county were unconstitutional. Judge Murguia is Obama appointee.
While posing questions for the attorneys the panel asked, what would be the outcome if the Secretary of State was a birther? The only birther who ran for SOS of CA, was attorney Taitz, who got over half a million voted in the primary in 2010. It appears the judge of the panel are well aware of Taitz, her run for SOS and her case of Grinols, Judd, Noonan et al v Electoral College, Congress, Obama, Secretary of State of California, Governor of California. In Grinols Judge England already ruled that that candidate for President Keith Judd had standing, the only reason the case was dismissed, was a political question doctrine. Now it looks like the court does not believe that the political question doctrine is applicable to ineligible candidates. This is a very important development and hopefully a prelude to overturning of Grinols case and finally going back to court for full discovery of Obama’s bogus IDs, his use of a stolen Social security number and his foreign citizenship.
Attorney Taitz is trying to get a transcript of this hearing to submit to courts in CA and MS. Transcripts are notoriously expensive, particularly when asked on a rush basis. Any and all donations to cover the fee would be greatly appreciated. Donations can be given via pay-pal at OrlytaitzESQ.com or via mail at 29839 Santa Margarita, ste 100 Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
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February 14th, 2014 @ 4:31 pm
The political question doctrine has nothing to do with people like Peta Lindsey who are not sitting US Presidents hence, nothing that was discussed today ended the courts adherence to the political question doctrine.
The court will continue to make a clear distinction between Peta Lindsey and President Obama and why the question of Lindsey’s eligibility to be on the ballot was a matter for the courts while the question of Obama’s eligibility to be on the ballot is a political question.
Specifically, the court will cite the fact that regardless of the fact that Obama was a candidate he was still the sitting President of the United States when this case was filed and that the eligibility of a sitting US President is a political question that is strictly the purview of Congress.
In contrast, Lindsey was not a sitting US President at the time her eligibility was questioned and therefore her eligibility was and is a question for the courts.
I realize that an attempt was made to make it clear to the court that your objection was raised against the eligibility of Obama the candidate and not against the eligibility of Obama the President.
However, despite your attempt to make this distinction as to which Obama your objection is raised against, the courts will continue to recognize Obama as a sitting US President regardless of whether he was seeking re-election and that therefore the eligibility of Obama remains a political question that can only be addressed by Congress.
February 14th, 2014 @ 4:38 pm
Seems to me that the judge wasn’t actually questioning the doctrine but getting the defendant’s attorney to give reasons why it’s applicable. And there is a clear difference. There is absolutely no dispute that Lindsey is ineligible. All you have are allegations. These are not proof.
February 14th, 2014 @ 4:40 pm
this is a total and complete nonsense, made up by Obots. If that would be the case, we would not have a re-election, deem the court system null and void and totally impotent and irrelevant during the re-election period.
Please, come up with something better than this nonsense, which insults the intelligence of every judge (unless the judge was paid off to switch off his intelligence temporarily and selectively for Obama case)
February 14th, 2014 @ 4:45 pm
Bowen trough Lindsey off the ballot before any proof was given, moreover political question doctrine has nothing to do with the strength of the argument and level to which proof was provided. I did not need to provide proof beyond the reasonable doubt, I needed to plead sufficient reasonable allegations, which I did
February 14th, 2014 @ 4:52 pm
I guess, the judge didn’t buy it! 🙁
February 14th, 2014 @ 5:10 pm
You cannot be that driven by your hatred of our precious democratic principles that you cannot see the difference. Did Barack Obama say he was not born in the US? No. Petra Lindsey openly declared that she was not 35 years old; she acknowledged that she did not meet the age qualification. There was no case of accusations by others, she fessed up right there, in writing. You are one stupid broad, blinded by racism.
February 14th, 2014 @ 5:16 pm
ihv………. actually we do have a dog in the white house … and from my understanding that dog would be legal to run for president..
the obamas own him and i am sure they have the birth records etc.. and in dog years its probably old enough to run//
but i am praying this is the beginning of the end of this communist takeover try.
and no i dont want him impeached.. i want him found illegal then that one judge of that panel would also be on unemployment sice obuummeerrr put him/her/ or it in
will
February 14th, 2014 @ 5:32 pm
It all seems really simple. No legal argument concerning Obama being ineligible will ever be given a fair shake, and the opinions written to disregard any attempt to find Obama ineligible are not required to make sense….because Obama is untouchable.
Case closed.
February 14th, 2014 @ 5:38 pm
“Ninth Circuit Hears Presidential Qualifications Ballot Access Case
The hearing was recorded and anyone with internet access can listen, beginning on Friday, February 14. http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media
https://www.ballot-access.org/2014/02/ninth-circuit-hears-presidential-qualifications-ballot-access-case/
To listen at https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/
select Peta Lindsay, et al v. Debra Bowen 13-15085
To read more search for “Peta Lindsay” or “Peace & Freedom Party” at https://www.ballot-access.org/2014/02/ninth-circuit-hears-presidential-qualifications-ballot-access-case/
February 14th, 2014 @ 5:39 pm
Shouldn’t you be screaming “BOW Wow Wow”???
February 14th, 2014 @ 6:00 pm
Actually, you didn’t. Constitutional law is based on the…Constitution. This includes how it has been interpreted in the last 250 years. Lindsey’s age was not disputed. Obama’s eligibility is, in that you have disputed it but while you’ve provided allegations and (maybe) evidence, you haven’t proved those allegations. This is about the law. US law. It has nothing to do with Obots.
February 14th, 2014 @ 6:34 pm
Thank you Jimbo. The greater the defense’s pre-trial efforts at deflection, the more greatly prepared the plaintiff. If you would, please supply case law to substantiate your assertion.
February 14th, 2014 @ 6:37 pm
first Lindsey is African American, so it has nothing to do with race. Further, the SOS kicked her off the ballot before Lindsey admitted. As a matter of the fact the judge asked the attorney for SOS, how did they find out that she is not 35. they responded that they googled, looked into sopme news releases and kicked her off the ballot without any hearing.
February 14th, 2014 @ 6:41 pm
a. Lindsey was thrown of the ballot because bowen googled her and before there was any proof or admission
b. I need an honest judge to order discovery in order to prove all the allegation. Judge England was obligated to allow me discovery
February 14th, 2014 @ 6:54 pm
National Black Republican Association Files Articles of Impeachment Against Barack Obama
https://www.dailypaul.com/312452/national-black-republican-association-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-barack-obama
February 14th, 2014 @ 8:31 pm
Us Citizens of total unmitigated Concern you statedL’
In contrast, Lindsey was not a sitting US President at the time her eligibility was questioned and therefore her eligibility was and is a question for the courts.
ihv actually you nedd to go brush up on this since orly has been fighting this BEFORE OBUMMER WAS ELEDCTED THE FIRSSST TIEM
you will also learn that hillary screwed up and mentioned it to him personally if i recall.. then it went hush hush
wake up
will
February 14th, 2014 @ 9:16 pm
I have to laugh at all the “clubhouse lawyers” that come here and spew their opinion of the law and the court’s opinion and try to school Orly.
Hey, gasbags, in case you haven’t noticed, Taitz is IN THE ARENA, kicking ass and taking names. She is practicing law at the cutting edge EVERY DAY. Who the hell do you think you are? If you’ve got something to offer – get your ass into court and file a case. Until then STFU.
February 15th, 2014 @ 2:56 am
> the SOS kicked her off the ballot before Lindsey admitted.
Candidates include their DOB in their submissions. No need to google.
February 15th, 2014 @ 4:25 am
See Orly, your extensive legal experience trumps all the obots every time.
It’s funny that all those lawyers over at Fogbow think they know more about the law than you.
Orly, Linda Jordan did an interview on Boyles radio show, and she said hers was the only case ever to challenge the Social Security Number. I thought you had some cases about that? Maybe I’m confused.
February 15th, 2014 @ 5:49 am
And go eat some shit while you’re at it, bitch.
February 15th, 2014 @ 5:51 am
Sunday 15 February 2014
– – O R L Y – –
OBVIOUSLY, you are a exemplary individual with stellar credentials.
This is blatant constitutional violations of the federal, state local governments, et al., let’s talk about DUAL Standards and massive violations of laws FEDERAL STATUTES, et al., lets get the facts.
FACT not FICTION
OBAMA 44th and current President of the United States maternal half-sister Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng (born August 15, 1970) of Barack Obama in fact used multiple names, multiple social security number et al., Obama has had 3 last names, Dunham, Obama and Soetoro.
If he was in first grade in Indonesia with the name Soetoro when did he get un-adopted and get the name Obama?
Hawaii,went to great lengths to keeping his birth certificate sealed why?
Clearly, being seen as Kenyan-born because it offered him some advantage. The media has had zero interest in why. Obama got a full scholarship to Occidental College in LA but Obama had steadfastly refused to release his college records. Was his scholarship awarded on the basis of Obama being born in Kenya? Was that the same vehicle he used to gain admission to Columbia and then to Harvard? Obama has freely mixed fantasy with fact his entire life. Was he born in Kenya or was he a fraud? This would be a compelling reason to secret those college records.
https://floppingaces.net/2012/05/21/why-obama-might-have-claimed-he-was-born-in-kenya-reader-post/
but wait there’s more
Lets look at his many social security numbers 25 Social Security numbers 042-68-4425 etc., connected with Barack Obama’s name.
https://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/SocialSecurity.htm
BLATANT FRAUD!
= = =
February 15th, 2014 @ 5:58 am
obama has confessed that he was born of a non American citizen father. That IS primafacie proof obama is not a “Natural Born Citizen” of America, therefore not eligible for the office of president.
This fact was known before his first voter fraud election, and should have kept him off the ballot at that time, thereby, avoiding this specious “political question doctrine” nonsense.
There is no reason whatsoever an honest court cannot rectify this outrageous criminal act in defiance of our Constitution.
Only the ignorant, liars, or cowards, refer to obama as president.
February 15th, 2014 @ 6:42 am
Dr. Taitz your followers know exactly the kind of evil tyrannical forces you battle daily. They post on here with their baseless opinions in order to discredit you but most of us who made it this far to reach your blog know and recognize their satanic agenda of keeping the foreign-born usurper in control. Their stupid little petty input and insults do not change fact. Keep up the great work.
February 15th, 2014 @ 7:35 am
show me a form, where a candidate provided her birth date. There is no such form. th judge asked SOS: how did you find out that Lindsey is not 35, they responded that they googled it. Have you seen such lawlessness? They Google and throw of the ballot one candidate, but they do nothing about a foreign criminal without one single valid paper
February 15th, 2014 @ 7:36 am
she made an error
February 15th, 2014 @ 8:29 am
It is incredible to see that the only profession that not required legal identification, legal residency is : law.
At some point in his life he had to show identification to apply for school, bank loan or credit card.
IRS is actually accepting a fraudulent tax report from an un identified individual. Is this was the same for Al Capone?
February 15th, 2014 @ 8:35 am
An interesting read at The Post & Email. As a “professor of Constitutional History” one would think that Obama would, should, could agree.
Obviously, the DNC, Obama, the Party faithful and many “RINOS” (sorry, O’Reilly, we know he does not like that term, but the shoe does fit), many judges, and many departments such as the Hawaii Dep’t of Health, are COMPLICIT.
If any of Orly’s readers were in school at any time before or during the 1970s they would immediately recognize the veracity of the article by Peter Hollrah:
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Obama’s Eligibility: The Final Word
THOSE BORN TO FOREIGN-CITIZEN PARENTS ARE NOT “NATURAL BORN CITIZENS”
by Paul R. Hollrah, ©2014
February 15th, 2014 @ 10:47 am
Poster #6: Obama has said many times (or references from others) that he was born in Hawaii.
So that commits him to that location!
February 15th, 2014 @ 10:48 am
Rules out Cruz, then.
February 15th, 2014 @ 11:41 am
Poster #6: Michele Obama has stated in writing to Canada Free Press, that the prez was born in Kenya!
And he and others have also mentioned that Hawaii was where he was born…! So, who is telling the truth? Who’s lying? But your comment about Dr Orly is uncalled for!
February 16th, 2014 @ 11:47 am
This is funny,Itchik is a bigger itiot than you, and that’s saying something
Itchik
February 14th, 2014 @ 9:16 pm
I have to laugh at all the “clubhouse lawyers” that come here and spew their opinion of the law and the court’s opinion and try to school Orly.
Hey, gasbags, in case you haven’t noticed, Taitz is IN THE ARENA, kicking ass and taking names. She is practicing law at the cutting edge EVERY DAY. Who the hell do you think you are? If you’ve got something to offer – get your ass into court and file a case. Until then STFU.
February 19th, 2014 @ 11:51 am
I wish Orly would do the right thing and give credit where credit is due. Orly knows that the case that I filed as an an appeal aims directly at Debra Bowen and the Election Board instead of trying to expose Obama for the usurper we all know. My case is valid and active and is what is generating the comments from the Ninth Circuit yet there is not one word mentioned that I, as a candidate for President of the United States has the standing to challenge Obama’s qualifications to run. Ed Noonan, also a candidate for President of the United States filed a similar suit. Unfortunate for Ed but good fortune for me, my case was separated from Ed’s. This offers the best chance to catch that rat in Washington. As always, I have offered my hand in friendship to Orly because we are fighting the same fight. For whatever reason she just can’t bring herself to unite in all the efforts to expose Obama. If she would we could topple this illegal presidency in short fashion. My case is filed so anyone can look it up. As always I still offer my hand out to Orly in the interest of getting justice for the People of the United States. I understand that Orly will be running for Attorney General of California. I pray that she wins and offer my most sincerest hope that she is successful in her run. I think it would be nice that in return Orly would acknowledge the efforts made by my campaign and the thousands of supporters that follow me. Those followers will be sorely needed for her political run. John Albert Dummett Jr. Republican candidate for President of the United States 2016
February 19th, 2014 @ 11:51 am
I wish Orly would do the right thing and give credit where credit is due. Orly knows that the case that I filed as an an appeal aims directly at Debra Bowen and the Election Board instead of trying to expose Obama for the usurper we all know. My case is valid and active and is what is generating the comments from the Ninth Circuit yet there is not one word mentioned that I, as a candidate for President of the United States has the standing to challenge Obama’s qualifications to run. Ed Noonan, also a candidate for President of the United States filed a similar suit. Unfortunate for Ed but good fortune for me, my case was separated from Ed’s. This offers the best chance to catch that rat in Washington. As always, I have offered my hand in friendship to Orly because we are fighting the same fight. For whatever reason she just can’t bring herself to unite in all the efforts to expose Obama. If she would we could topple this illegal presidency in short fashion. My case is filed so anyone can look it up. As always I still offer my hand out to Orly in the interest of getting justice for the People of the United States. I understand that Orly will be running for Attorney General of California. I pray that she wins and offer my most sincerest hope that she is successful in her run. I think it would be nice that in return Orly would acknowledge the efforts made by my campaign and the thousands of supporters that follow me. Those followers will be sorely needed for her political run. John Albert Dummett Jr. Republican candidate for President of the United States 2016