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Posted on | September 22, 2009 | 6 Comments

  lightyourcandle2

I think all Donofrio has is FOIA request documents Miss Tickly sent to Hawaii asking if there was an amended b/c. And Hawaii didn’t respond in the proper manner and he is just seeking confirmation there is an amended birth certificate.

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  1. BlackSunshine84
    September 22nd, 2009 @ 6:41 pm

    It’s actually pretty good. TerriK noticed Fukino said Obama’s vital records, not record, and began her investigation asking how she came to the conclusion he was a natural born citizen. When she requested the information about the amendments to his bc, the reply was that they weren’t allowed to share those documents with her, which indicates it was amended and under the law, she is allowed access to see those documents.
    Atleast I think that’s what TerriK was saying. I’m not a lawyer…

  2. Leon Brozyna
    September 22nd, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

    From Leo’s blog, as the topic was discussed over the course of many weeks in comments, TerriK tried to find out if Obama tried to access and/or amend his vital records. It seems that all they really have so far are a number of emails but no solid evidence. Here’s what Leo had to say yesterday in a comment:

    [Ed. This was not originally an action to reveal his actual BC and personal vital records info…the original requests were for records pertaining to whether he requested his file for the purpose of amending and whether he did amend… the actual contents of his personal vital records are protected, she wasnt asking to see those. She was asking whether he paid any fees to amend them and whether they had been amended… not the contents of the amendments.

    However, I am going to raise the issue that since Fukino made a public statement about his place of birth, then all records viewed by her for the purposes of making that statement are supposed to be made public under 92F-12(15), information required to be made public. Regardless, the other statement she made about him being a natural born citizen involves a whole other can of worms concerning the advice of the Attorney General and it is the AG opinion letter that we are really after and which was denied to TerriK. The statutory and case law indicates that this information MUST be made public. That means we should get an answer as to what definition of nbc Fukino used to make that statement.]

    The reference above (92F-12(15)) is from the UIPA manual (link can be found in Leo’s blog. That second paragraph of Leo’s statement refers to this part of the main story:

    “Section 92F-12(15) states that the following must be released to the public:

    (15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public;

    On July 27, 2009 Hawaii Department of Health Director Fukino issued a press release which stated:

    ‘I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.’

    TerriK requested all information ‘collected and maintained’ for the purposes of preparing the public statement made by Director Fukino as such information must be released according to the statute.”

    So it seems that they’re in the early stages of filing a suit for the release of information. Leo has said he’ll be making a statement & issuing a press release in the near future.

    Leon Brozyna
    CW2, USA (Ret)

  3. american first
    September 22nd, 2009 @ 10:10 pm

    ORLY DID YOU SEE THE AMERICAN GRAND JURY SITE I HOPE SO…URGENT

  4. NewEnglandPatriot
    September 23rd, 2009 @ 10:32 am

    From what I understand, Leo is pursuing the fact that when the Hawaiian Health Department once again denied access to Obama’s personal records after something apparently was amended, by statute, it was required to inform the requestor that he/she had a right to appeal the decision. Because the Health Department failed to do that, they have broken Hawaii state law. Of course, they did it because it is OBAMA’S records in question. They simply do not want to open his records, most likely because they have been intimidated and perhaps even criminally threatened.

    As free people, anyone who has been threatened by Obama’s thugs needs to step forward, hold a press conference, and file a complaint with the local prosecutor. Anyone who fails to do so is complicit in this cover-up. The Hawaii Health Department needs to come clean.

  5. Harry H
    September 23rd, 2009 @ 11:38 am

    Admittedly Leo Donofrio’s Hawaii lawsuit will be limited in scope, but once he gets the judicial ball rolling, I believe he will depose the HI Attorney General about the meaning of “natural born,” and that is Leo’s specialty.

  6. Nellie
    September 24th, 2009 @ 11:37 am

    If I’m understanding correctly, TErriK’s case is much, much bigger than that. Once Fukino made official public statements about Obama’s information she is required by Hawaii law to document what she said – that is, to provide access to all the documents she used in order to make those statements. Non-relevant information from those documents can be redacted, but once she said he was born in Hawaii she is REQUIRED to show the documents proving that to ANYONE who asks to see it. Once she’s made the public statement Obama has NO confidentiality argument to stand on.

    If Donofrio is reading these laws right and if I’m understanding him right, this is HUGE. The lawsuits to see his documentation have not been necessary since late October of 2008, when Fukino stated that Obama was born in Hawaii. Anybody off the street could ask to see his original birth certificate and Fukino would be required to show it, with everything but the mother, father, and birthplace redacted.

    She also would be required to show when Obama has asked to see his records and any times he requested to make changes to them, as well as what documents actually exist for him (original BC, amended BC, file of documentation if the original was filed by Madelyn Dunham, etc)

    I’ve asked Donofrio if I’m understanding him right. Haven’t heard back yet. But if I’m understanding this, it means that Fukino has been lying all along about what she can and can’t reveal, broke the law in making her public statements about Obama’s documents, broke the law by not giving the documentation for her statements when requested, broke the law by not advising TerriK about her right to appeal the refusals to give her information, and misrepresented the law (most likely deliberately) to TerriK in order to throw TerriK off her quest for information she is legally authorized to receive.

    This is way, way huge.