Just got word from the chambers: Judge England will allow me to make an oral motion at the onset of the hearing asking for more time for the argument and witnesses, no guarantee that he will allow more time as the Feds oppose
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I’d strongly oppose such a request. –Edward Olsen, AUSA
From: Orly Taitz [mailto:orly.taitz@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:28 AM To: SDeutsch@caed.uscourts.gov Cc: Olsen, Edward (USACAE); george.waters@doj.ca.gov Subject: Re: Request for clarification in regards to time allowed for January 3rd TRO Grinols et al v Electoral college et al
One of my witnesses is flying from Florida
Will Judge England entertain a motion to extend time for the oral argument and witness testimony
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:20 AM, <SDeutsch@caed.uscourts.gov> wrote:
Good morning again and thank you for your question. The Court will permit each side twenty minutes total to present their arguments, which includes any and all witnesses.
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From: Orly Taitz <orly.taitz@gmail.com> To: sdeutsch@caed.uscourts.gov Cc: edward.olsen@usdoj.gov,george.waters@doj.ca.gov,orly.taitz@gmail.com Date: 12/28/2012 04:05 PM
Subject: Request for clarification in regards to time allowed for January 3rd TRO Grinols et al v Electoral college et al
Dear Stephanie, please let me know how much time will Judge England allow for the presentation of the TRO Motion. I would like to bring witnesses and would like to know, how much time will the court allow Respectfully Attorney for Plaintiffs in Grinols et al v Electoral college et al 12-cv-2997
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January 2nd, 2013 @ 10:04 am
Is making the oral motion part of your 20 minutes?
January 2nd, 2013 @ 10:14 am
You should send another e-mail to the clerk asking whether you can have an additional 20 minutes to make your oral motion and for the Feds to respond. Otherwise, by the time you finish making the motion, you may find out that the clock has run out. Clarification is definitely needed as to whether your oral motion will count toward your 20 minutes.
January 2nd, 2013 @ 11:01 am
This is just opening argument, right? Foes not include time for discovery, right?
January 2nd, 2013 @ 11:13 am
this is for the Temporary Restraining Order motion
January 2nd, 2013 @ 11:15 am
yes
January 2nd, 2013 @ 11:16 am
no,it takes less than a minute to ask the Judge for more time
January 2nd, 2013 @ 12:02 pm
20 minutes? for such an important case? do i smell cover up again? thats not enough time to even hand the judge all the evidnece which he will probably trash can…
anyone wanna bet obast&rd is in hkawaie and will not show up for this hearing?
will
January 2nd, 2013 @ 1:12 pm
It over for you orly give it up…Obama will have you destroyed.
“How sweet it is”
January 2nd, 2013 @ 1:23 pm
it is a fact obama is in hawaii right now .. he thinks he’s above the law and dont have to show .grrrrrrrrrr , bless you mrs. orly
January 2nd, 2013 @ 3:34 pm
I would tell the Judge that the fate of a Nation deserves more than 20 minutes. The depth of fraud and corruption demands more time to be exposed, no time limit should be placed on exposing the truth.
Petty criminals receive trials that last days, some murder cases receive months of trial. We are talking about the future of 330 million people – the people are entitled to whatever time is needed.
January 2nd, 2013 @ 4:18 pm
Dr. Taitz:
In response to obot Gary, if we think good, it will be good. If you are not given enough time to present your case, are there any remedies? Can you ask for another judge? Sometimes its the technicalities which help you win a case – I am not a lawyer, but I have watched court TV (when it was on).
January 2nd, 2013 @ 6:48 pm
Dear Scott: I totally agree w/ you, 110%. Can anyone research whether judges are truly, legally, & technically allowed to just make-up (their own random) severely short time limits like this? @ least this appears to me to be just a make-up time limit that the judge has pulled out of a hat to shortcut the plaintiff’s arguments..rather than an abiding by some rule(s) that is based in the realities of this case & any case of this extreme importance & magnitude & seriousness f/ it’s impact on the people of this nation & the world.. like this 20 mins. thing? Where did he get 20 minutes? But, intentionally giving the plaintiff just 20 minutes WOULD thereby, (intentionally) cut the plaintiff’s arguments way shorter that the real time needed, &, it seems…intentionally (&, it would appear to my guess, to be: corruptly, again,) through their own personal manipulation of the rules of procedure, to convenience themselves & the defendants, & to favor the defendant, f/ whom, it appears, the court is already showing great bias (for, not against..ie. to protect the defendants & the govt. players involved w/ (&/or connected) w/ him, rather than to really protect THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, & the world)? i.e.: Can anyone w/ a law degree & yrs. of experience check to see whether this is even ethical & is really following or adhering to the rules of procedure rules or guidelines, properly to limit the hearing to just 20 mins. per party like this w/ such an extremely serious & important case of this magnitude, as this is, w/ such serious & lasting, if not eternal impact upon us all & w/ potential neg. consequences to us all, if this is just swept under the rug & ignored, AGAIN, (corruptly), espec. @ this precipice of time just hrs. before certification of the 2012 election result where the future of the whole nation & the world hangs in the balance & our best future possible f/ this entire nation & f/ the word.. DEPENDS upon the outcome of this trial, & upon truly having a TRULY & TOTALLY FAIR & EQUAL (equitable) trial, which IS gauranteed TO us by the 5th Amendment to the/our U.S. Constitution of the U.S.? IF Judge England does NOT grant you, Orly, ALL the time you need f/ EVERYTHING, he is violating the 5th Amendment by stacking the trial or hearing in favor of the defendant & should be in jeopardy of losing his job f/ violating the laws &/or Constitution. To whom, outside of itself, (i.e. the govt.), is the justice system accountable?, (i.e.: WHEN IT ignores, &/or violates, &/or manipulates the Constitution, the law, &/or the rules)? No one, unless it is caught, & even then, not unless someone w/ enough morality & ethics w/in it’s own system will stand-up f/ what is right & f/ the truth & f/ the people whom it was (truly) designed to serve & to protect & defend, (etc. etc.). The entire system needs tremendous revision & reform & revamping. We Love you, Orly, & God’s very very best to you tomorrow.. & way WAY beyond, forever into the future! We are w/ you in spirit if not (able to be) there in person. God Bless!!!!
January 2nd, 2013 @ 7:20 pm
Yeah, thanks, Gary for your useless (2)=cents! Now, go suck on a lemon! Orly, tell that judge that if he’s not going to do his job the right way, ask him (why did he want to hear this extremely important case, for 20-minutes)? Then, tell him that he’s going to get an avalache of supporters to flood the Bar Association with so many damned complaints, that his credability will be tarnished, permanently! Then, no attorney will trust his decisions again! (But in a nice way, of course!) There’s only (2 or 3) more options before (D-Day) MAY HAPPEN! So he holds the fate of America and his future in his hands! Enough said! We may be reaching “critical mass??” We also may be at “Defcon-3?”…with De-(1) being the “bottom-line!”
January 3rd, 2013 @ 5:35 pm
What Happened? I have been watching for an update all day long!