What about John Dummett, why he does not have standing or case against Obama
Posted on | October 26, 2011 | 13 Comments
A number of people have asked me about this gentleman, John Dummett, what do I think about him and his attempt to find standing in court.
I am sure Mr. Dummett is a good person, I wish him all the best, but he does not have standing. I was contacted by Mr. Dummett and a couple of his friends probably a couple of months ago. His two friends wanted to travel from FL, where they reside, to CA, in order to persuade me to file a class action law suit with Mr. Dummett as a lead plaintiff, they wanted me to take this case and represent Mr. Dummett.
I explained to them, that first and foremost, during the primary neither he, nor even legitimate candidates on the ballot, do not have standing to challenge Obama. Even, if Romney, Cain and Perry wanted to sue Obama today and seek adjudication of the BC issue, they cannot do it during the primary, as they do not face Obama during the Primary, they face each other, so the judge will say, that the law suit is just hypothetical, conjectural, not ripe. Republican nominee can sue Obama later during the general election, but not during the Primary.
2. From what I understand, Mr. Dummett simply filled out a one page form, saying that he has an intention to run for President. Most people do not know, that there are some 250-260 people, who simply filled out this one page form and are considered candidates for President, however, it is really nothing. In order to even run in the Primary, one has to be on the ballot. In order to be on the ballot, one has to pay necessary fees. For example, in order to run for Senate and have my name on the ballot in one state, in CA, I need to pay $3420 to the state of CA. In order to run for President, one has to pay a fee in each and every state. As far as I know, John Dummett did not pay fees yet and he is not on the ballot yet.
Now, if I know of 250 people, who simply filled out 1 page form, so do the judges, and they look at the case accordingly, they understand, that these people are not even on the ballot. Again, even if he were to pay the fees in each and every state and get on the ballot, he cannot face Obama in the primary.
3. Class action law suit.
In order for the judge to certify a law suit, as a class action, the judge has to certify a class. It means, that the damages of all the members of the class have to be similar. For example, all presidential candidates running in the General election: Republican, Libertarian, Independents can make a class, however members of the public at large, are not part of this class, people are simply misled, when they are told, that the judge will certify them as members of the same class in a class action law suit together with Presidential candidates, running against Obama in general election.
4. Readers of this blog know, that I work 24/7, I travel a lot. If I would have believed, that there is a case there, I would have filed it and would even travel long distance, however I just did not see any case there. Even when I do have a case, as it is with the former UN Ambassador, Dr. Alan Keyes, who, indeed, was a Presidential candidate in the general election in 2008 facing Obama; due to enourmous corruption in our Judiciary, I can’t even get a hearing on the merits in ObamaFraudGate, but in Dummet case, there isn’t really a case or standing. The members of the public are definitely not members of the same class, as Presidential candidates on the ballot, running in the General election.
As I stated before, I am sure, Mr. Drummett is a very nice guy. He works somewhere in “Fish and Game” agency. I am sure, he is a good employee and I wish him all the best, but the public needs to know what really is going on.
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October 27th, 2011 @ 5:00 am
A question Orly…
Can I take the DNC Certification from 08′ to my County Sheriff, and claim voter fraud?
October 27th, 2011 @ 5:57 am
Who is th attorney doing the :”Class action”? Such attorney is hanging ten!
October 27th, 2011 @ 12:49 pm
On the subject of “Standing.”
Look at the narcissistic “Anointed One” and his crooked minions. Look at all the damage they have done and continuing to do. His foreign policy has damaged the United States and its citizens. His domestic policy has damaged the United States and its citizens. Therefore, the citizens have more than enough “Standing” to seek recourse before the courts to have him removed by legal means. The Constitution also says if all else fails, then by force. For the courts to say “lack of standing” is tyranny.
October 27th, 2011 @ 4:40 pm
Can you intervene in the lawsuits with Ambassador Keyes or someone else equally credible? This Fish & Game employee is not credible at all.
October 28th, 2011 @ 8:38 am
That depends if your sheriff has a pair or not.
In all seriousness, you would think that would be a definite start, and is an obvious red flag, but unless your sheriff is not afraid for his job or the safety of him and his family, I would say not.
October 28th, 2011 @ 8:40 am
Give it a shot Thomas, and see what happens. You never know until you try.
October 28th, 2011 @ 12:41 pm
Andrew – that’s the best legal argument I’ve ever read as to why there should be standing. Good work. I’m sure some judge will find it convincing. Do you have any cases to support the argument?
October 29th, 2011 @ 12:23 am
Just a thought here…according to the 2009 Talking points memo…”State election officials under some state ballot laws might thus require candidate “statements” or “declarations” of candidacy attesting to and/or
certifying certain facts as a condition to be on the ballot; in other states,
representatives of the established political parties may certify names to the
Secretary of State, or the designated elections official may place viable or
“recognized” candidates on the presidential preference ballots. In such cases opposing political candidates or political parties may have “standing ” to legally challenge the placement of a name of an opponent on the ballot, or state law may specifically provide for a procedure for timely protests to be filed concerning the qualifications of candidates.”…would this rule out Drummet on standing? This is suggesting that he may have standing to challenge obama being put on the ballot. Or am I wrong?
October 29th, 2011 @ 6:16 am
you are wrong, as they are not suing the state or secretary of state, they are suing DNC. Additionally, even if they were suing states, so far Dummitt is nobody and nothing in any state, as he is not registered as a candidatate in any state, not even in the first primary state of New Hampshire. Even if he were to pay some $5,000 registration fee, he still would have no standing in challenging DNC, as he is not running in the Democrat primary
October 29th, 2011 @ 6:39 am
Orly, I agree with your analysis. At this stage only a registered Democrat who was a credible candidate (on the ballot) would have standing to sue the DNC or Obama. Van Irion’s lawsuits are preposterous. Making them class actions of citizens (who he charges to join) are even more ridiculous. A multi-plaintiff suit is not a “class action” just because you have a lot of named plaintiffs. How do I know? I read it on Justia.
October 31st, 2011 @ 12:41 pm
” The Constitution also says if all else fails, then by force”
Exactly where does it say that, Andrew?
November 1st, 2011 @ 6:09 am
LOL look who’s suddenly concerned about the Constitution.
November 1st, 2011 @ 2:47 pm
Yeffie, I’ve forgotten more about the Constitution then you’ll ever know about it.
Still waiting for that citation, Andrew.