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New twist, now the Attorney General of HI states, that they verify forged documents by a yes or no answer from the official, who provided the forgery in the first place. Case goes to the intermediate court of appeals, new subpoenas to be served shortly

Posted on | October 12, 2011 | 62 Comments

 

 October 12, 2011 – 4:10 PM

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Woman denied request to see Obama’s birth certificate

Reported by: Jai Cunningham Email: jcunningham@khon2.com

       

Print Story Published: 11:11 am Share Updated: 11:12 am

A woman who has been seeking to inspect President Barack Obama’s original birth certificate has run into another road block.Circuit Court Judge Rhonda Nishimura granted the state’s motion to dismiss a request by Dr. Orly Taitz to see that certificate.

The state says it has verified that the president’s birth certificate is real.

Last spring the White House released that document to the public.

Taitz alleges the online release is a forgery.

She has appealed denials to federal court before, and everywhere she has turned she has been denied.

Taitz, along with other so called “birthers”, believe President Obama was not born in America. President Obama’s father was from Kenya, his mother is from Hawaii.

Taitz is not alone in making a claim like this other more high profile people like Donald Trump have even brought the subject up in public.

Jai Cunningham will have more on this story tonight on the KHON2 News at Five and Six.

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62 Responses to “New twist, now the Attorney General of HI states, that they verify forged documents by a yes or no answer from the official, who provided the forgery in the first place. Case goes to the intermediate court of appeals, new subpoenas to be served shortly”

  1. Patty
    October 12th, 2011 @ 4:14 pm

    Orly, I was there (late) but you were busy arguing. Afterwards I knew you needed to get to the clerk’s office, so I didn’t want to trouble you. When you come back for the appeal I’ll make sure to stop by and say hi.

  2. Florence Stone
    October 12th, 2011 @ 4:26 pm

    We have a man, who, if Pinocchio, his nose would reach to the moon and beyond, and somebody would take his word that his BC is valid??? Give me a break!! Thank God, we have Orly who will never give up, and keeps right on going like the energizer bunny!! Obama belongs in prison, and I know he WILL be there in my lifetime, ’cause I refuse to die until he is!!

  3. 2discern
    October 12th, 2011 @ 4:48 pm

    This wreaks of fraud in and of itself. Are the courts that corrupt where they fly by the pants reply to a motion?

  4. Sybil Earl
    October 12th, 2011 @ 4:57 pm

    What I don’t understand is, how does a state verify a birth certificate’s authenticity?

    Isn’t releasing it by itself proof of birth, for the purposes of a court or obtaining a passport?

    Just what else can someone do to verify their birth?

  5. kelley
    October 12th, 2011 @ 5:06 pm

    Could you explain further. Everyone at my work is wanting more details (600 employees). This sounds like more total bullsh**!!!!!

  6. Yephora
    October 12th, 2011 @ 6:24 pm

    LOL, Florence.

    Normally I would wish all patriots a long life, but since you put it that way . . . !

    Great post 🙂

  7. HOMER
    October 12th, 2011 @ 7:46 pm

    “Circuit Court Judge Rhonda Nishimura granted the state’s motion to dismiss a request by Dr. Orly Taitz to see that certificate.
    The state says it has verified that the president’s birth certificate is real.”

    Following this logic, if the state of HI says its real, then it must be Real. If that’s the case, why not allow an independent third party to examine the Birth Certificate for irregularities? Did the Judge also rule that the Birth Certificate cannot be viewed? It makes you wonder if that document is even in the state of HI’s vaults……

  8. Thayne Doak
    October 12th, 2011 @ 8:09 pm

    Dr. Taitz,
    This is quite the victory. Nishimura will now be subjectd to judicial review by an appealate court that will have a very difficult time with her extra-Constitutional ruling. You are getting to them and they are starting to dig themselves into a deeper hole than they will ever be able to climb out of.
    Now is the time for Arpaio to put-up or shut-up.
    Thayne Doak

  9. Logia
    October 12th, 2011 @ 8:11 pm

    Hawaii is making a mockery of its place in the Union. NYS has also sullied its reputation by changing Constitutional language on its Board of Elections website, replacing “natural Born” with “Born a citizen” as the requirement to be President. So a baby who was born to tourists in Hoboken can come back from a far flung corner of the world to run for president? Hawaii is starting to seem like a foreign land, uncommitted to Constitutional principles.
    NYS is right behind! They are all morphing into Chicago-like Thugocracies! Bless you Orly!

  10. ken
    October 12th, 2011 @ 8:39 pm

    will a writ of certiorari be an option if needed…i would assume any ICA judgement on dismissal could fall under an argument on how the ICA allegedly erred.(?)

    Note: i dont know what i am talking about, i just read the state.hi.us and am trying to make sense of it….

  11. Itchik
    October 12th, 2011 @ 9:02 pm

    It is clear that they all know the truth and don’t want any proof of what they already know. Otherwise, why not let somebody look at it? The corruption runs deep. Thankfully, God sees all.

  12. Maynard
    October 12th, 2011 @ 10:20 pm

    God also has better things to do than give two shrugs about the day to day political affairs of humans. I’d say most of what we deem important, doesn’t really matter to him.

  13. William
    October 12th, 2011 @ 10:31 pm

    Dr. Orly,

    Did you happen to run into Mitzi Torri or her new cohort at the hearing?

  14. ihv
    October 12th, 2011 @ 10:34 pm

    this is so stupid.. first there is no bc on record ..then one mateializes.. its proven a fake.. da says its been verified by the one who may have placed this crap in records..

    i have to wonder if sooner or later when obama is convicted if the judge will appoint 12 or obama’s czars as the jury?

    stay aware folks. this country is headed for a revolution like the world has never seen..
    will

  15. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    October 12th, 2011 @ 11:11 pm

    no, but other obots were there

  16. Mildred Smith
    October 13th, 2011 @ 4:10 am

    Dr. Taitz,

    First, you need to thank President Obama for showing his birth certificate to you at all. He didn’t have to.

    Secondly, you need to apologize for being wrong about him being born somewhere other than where he has said.

    Lastly, you need to move on. You’re not helping anyone.

  17. Ken B.
    October 13th, 2011 @ 5:56 am

    Hey Mildred, why don’t you go suck on a lemon!!

  18. RacerJim
    October 13th, 2011 @ 6:00 am

    Mildred Smith,

    First, you need to take another big gulp of kool-aid.

    Second, you need to stay the F off this blog.

    Lastly, you need to check yourself into a mental institution.

  19. Itchik
    October 13th, 2011 @ 6:40 am

    Maynard: What “better things”?

    It’s clear you have no idea what God thinks, most probably because you’ve never read His word.

    Go back to the Huffy.

  20. Mildred Smith
    October 13th, 2011 @ 6:46 am

    Mildred Smith.
    One of the poor useful idiots that wonder around aimlessly not knowing what is happening around her.

    My father always said, “There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen, and those who say ” What happened?””

    Mildred, I’ll give you three guesses as to which one you are. By your comment, I’m betting you’ll need all three to get it right.

    Fight on Orly, millions stand behind you. What is going on is an outrage! Your day will come!

  21. Maynard
    October 13th, 2011 @ 6:48 am

    Mildred, that really needed to be said.
    But she’ll never admit to being wrong.
    The problem with conspiracy theorists, is that no amount of proof will convince them. In their minds they are one hundred and ten percent correct, any evidence to the contrary be damned.
    There are still people who think the moon landing was faked.

  22. right turn
    October 13th, 2011 @ 8:01 am

    Obots are not American.They don’t care who the president of the United States is as long as that person is on their side.What a bunch of sick individuals.

  23. Patty
    October 13th, 2011 @ 8:18 am

    How many obots were there? Did they speak to you? Did you observe them talking to the judge or AG maybe trying to influence them?

  24. Bob J
    October 13th, 2011 @ 8:39 am

    Well said Mildred Smith.

    If everyone is part of this corruption, why don’t you go after some of the judges and politicians?

  25. Luella
    October 13th, 2011 @ 9:57 am

    I am sorry to say that I’m afraid Mildred may be right. I just can’t see why so many people would want to help cover up for Obama. What’s in it for them? Not one of the Republicans running for president seems to want to touch the issue? Why not? Even Sarah Palin wouldn’t. I’m starting to thing that maybe things really are as they seem and the most likely, simplest explanation is really the true one.

  26. questions
    October 13th, 2011 @ 10:03 am

    Mildred,

    I have condo in Hawaii I will sell you for $5-

    Doesn’t matter- he will be kicked out if not sooner than the election.

  27. kelley
    October 13th, 2011 @ 12:07 pm

    Oh Mildred, give it a rest, we will never tire of this. The truth will prevail. Just you watch!!

  28. Andrew
    October 13th, 2011 @ 2:03 pm

    Some questions;
    The first things he did as “president;”

    Why did Obummer spend about 2 million to seal/threaten all who had any records on him?

    Mae a special visit to the Supreme Court?

    Was his special trip to Hawaii to attend his grandmothers funeral the main reason?

  29. MF Millie Smith
    October 13th, 2011 @ 2:35 pm

    Mildred, Your thoughts and demands weren’t worth posting, since you have no idea what you are talking about.

    You have proven to MANY, what an idiot you are. Are you in “The Won’s” cabinet?

  30. Sovereign Soul
    October 13th, 2011 @ 2:48 pm

    Poor Mildred. She’s a prime candidate for a 5150 72 hour hold. She ignores or obfuscates the FACTS and lives in her own little world of dementia.

  31. Rene Richard
    October 13th, 2011 @ 3:03 pm

    to Mildred and the other obots. Have all of you forgotten about the checks and balances of this country in order to keep these people (politicians) on the strait and narrow? The news media is not doing it one iota!!! There is nothing wrong at all with the American Citizens staying on top of their politicians. As a matter of fact, it should be expected. Mrs. Taitz has done nothing wrong….nothing illegal!!! Mr. Soetoro…aka Obama, has NOT…repeat..NOT been forthright with ANY of his records. What he finally did produce is an out and out forgery by every expert I have had a chance to hear from.
    Mrs. Taitz is doing everything right…more than we can say for most of our Natural Born Citizens. I have been studying this issue since before the 2008 elections and have not found one piece of evidence, convincing or not, that he was born in Hawaii. All the evidence, factual evidence, points to him from being overseas.
    Americans have the right…THE DUTY…to check on their elected officials! Congress certainly isn’t doing it!

  32. Shlomo
    October 13th, 2011 @ 3:07 pm

    The Torah Code strongly suggests what Obama is hiding is his true paternity. He was born in Hawaii but not to Obama Sr. S. Dunham is indicated as the mother and Malcolm Little (Malik Shabazz) as the father. He was recruited by the CIA during the Cold War as a Muslim and his records are classified. That is why the courts cave in. They are told it is in the interest of national security to keep this information from the public.

  33. dianna
    October 13th, 2011 @ 3:46 pm

    this is to mildred smith:you are the one who should be apologizeing to ORLY>what a bunch of crap you said.Obama is a liar and a fraud and he does not deserve to be our President.he is not a US citizen and he is fooling all of you LIberals to get your money and then he will throw you away like trash.you had better wake up now and get on board the right train.ORLY trying to get this stupid monster out of our country.dont you care that the American People are suffering under him?i guess not since you voted him in office.i researched him way befor he was elected and i knew he was bad news.

  34. The Truth
    October 13th, 2011 @ 5:55 pm

    Mildred Smith.
    One of the poor useful idiots that wonder around aimlessly, not knowing what is happening around her.

    My father always said, “There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen, and those who say ” What happened?””

    Mildred, I’ll give you three guesses as to which one you are. By your comment, I’m betting you’ll need all three to get it right.

    Fight on Orly, millions stand behind you.
    What is going on is an outrage! Your day will come!

  35. Blabby
    October 13th, 2011 @ 7:24 pm

    This is really sad. You apparently don’t believe in your positions because you take down any that disagree with you, even nicely. This is a fansite, nothing more until you allow opinions other than fawning praise.

  36. Paul Jackson
    October 14th, 2011 @ 5:58 am

    “Case goes to the intermediate court of appeals, new subpoenas to be served shortly””

    Dr. Orly, are you planning to file a new case in Hawaii or issue the subpoenas in Taitz v Fuddy again?

  37. Bob J
    October 14th, 2011 @ 7:41 am

    The Truth

    Wow, you come prepared with nice quips, but no substance. If everyone is corrupt why not try to go after a small fish, and work your way up. Trying to go from the top down has not worked at all. If thousands are involved in this conspiracy, and there are millions behind the birthers, why can’t anyone of the corrupt be caught?

    I bet you resort to name calling and attempted belittlement. It really is all you know.

    I hope this is posted, but I won’t hold my breath

  38. hippybiker
    October 14th, 2011 @ 9:01 am

    Orly, please post my comment about Mildred. There is one objectionable word but, I feel it needed to be said because these O-bots need to be put in their places, and people need to know what kind of garbage the Obamas really are.

  39. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    October 14th, 2011 @ 11:51 am

    which comment?

  40. Birdy
    October 14th, 2011 @ 6:47 pm

    Barack Obama just sent 100 troops to the Democratic Republic of Congo to “advise” soldiers in their civil war. Barack Obama ordered the military to attack Libya with cruise missiles on his own volition without congressional consent. Barack Obama is making extensive use of armed UAVs to kill people in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen. Barack Obama is a war monger. Who is this man anyway? He is giving the United States a black eye around the world.

  41. The Truth
    October 14th, 2011 @ 7:04 pm

    Bob J,

    “No substance”?, “name calling”?,”attempted belittlement”?
    Really?

    You are part of the thousands (more like millions), who are allowing this to happen. Your half is giving cover to this fraud. Should we go after you? I don’t think so. That would be clearly a waste of time.

    So whom would we go for next? Which small fish are you talking about? The Attorney General of Hawaii? The Director of the Hawaiian Health Department? The judge? Obama’s spokesman, lawyers, czars, advisors? And charge them with what?

    Your comment is hogwash! The only way to get those people, would be to get access to the actual birth certificate! You know Bob, the one that supposedly exists because some clown says “Yes”it does?

    This completely idiotic stance that Obama supporters are taking, (as well as some weak talking-head conservatives), that the American public has no right to see a piece of paper that was “supposedly” copied and released to the public, and that would easily end this whole controversy, is nothing short of absurd! And when you and the other kool-aid drinkers say this matter is settled and there is nothing to see here, it only makes us stronger and more determined to get to the bottom of this mess.

    Open your eyes man and look around you! Do you actually feel any bit of confidence in Barack Obama? Do you believe what he is saying to you? Do you buy anything that comes out of his mouth?

    The world is caving in because of his lies. His biggest lie of all, that is allowing him to collapse our system, is what he is covering up by not showing his ACTUAL records to all of us , a.k.a. his employers.

    We have the right to see these documents no matter what he says, the courts say,what his minions say, or what anyone says.

    And what gives us that power Bob? That’s easy. It’s called The Constitution!

    We are all charged with protecting it by any means possible. That is exactly what Orly is doing. Even if you don’t like it, she has every right to do just that!

    So why don’t you drop the ” substance” bit, since I just dumped a bunch in your lap here. As far as the name calling, I’ll let that up to your side for right now, but reserve the right to do so when I see fit. I call them like I see them, as you have noticed. And the “attempted belittement” has now morphed into “mission accomplished” as far as I’m concerned.

    We will get to the truth soon. Orly Taitz and her supporters will see to that. Mark my words.

  42. Patty
    October 14th, 2011 @ 7:55 pm

    Who is next to get a subpoena? Maybe you should hire a licensed process server, just to make sure. Lila doesn’t seem to get things right.

  43. The Truth
    October 14th, 2011 @ 7:59 pm

    HOLD THE PRESSES!

    Nagamine says, “She (Orly Taitz) has given no authority to this court that would provide us with any reason to believe, that she is in a position of power to make a determination over the holder of the White House.”

    Read this very carefully. I do believe Nagamine has slipped and has given us another clue.

    Orly,
    She clearly thinks you WOULD have the power to determinine who the holder of the White House is, if you and the experts were allowed to examine the original birth certificate.

    Nagamine just made a critical error!!!!!!!! If the document is really there and is not falsified she would have never said this! Think about it.

  44. Elizabeth
    October 14th, 2011 @ 9:03 pm

    For Maynard…

    Actually, if you are a Bible
    literate, you would see many
    passages in which God is
    involved in the political affairs
    of mankind.

    For instance, Egypt and Pharaoh,
    in the ancient world,

    Israel,in contemporary times;
    Israel is the apple of His eye,
    and He will judge nations that
    go against her politically..

    There are MANY situations
    in which God has strived with
    nations and their leaders,
    and found them to be sinful
    and corrupt.

    Read 2 Peter 2:10

    and don’t dismiss that one day
    ‘The government shall be on His
    shoulders.’

  45. Maynard
    October 14th, 2011 @ 11:06 pm

    “They don’t care who the president of the United States is as long as that person is on their side.What a bunch of sick individuals.”

    Congrats, Right turn! You just described every registered voter in these United States.

  46. KBB
    October 14th, 2011 @ 11:23 pm

    “…I just can’t see why so many people would want to help cover up for Obama. What’s in it for them? Not one of the Republicans running for president seems to want to touch the issue? Why not?….”

    It’s obvious why not. Dems don’t want the truth out because they are involved in the fraud. They knew what they were doing when they put the black fraud in office. They knew a black man could get away with pushing their agenda (they didn’t count on how far left he would go), and if there was any push-back or complaints, all he has to say is “racism” and everyone would back off and let him accomplish his agenda.
    As for the Repubs, why not, they don’t want the truth of Obama’s ineligibility to come out, because they want to use it to their advantage. For instance, they have a few “non-Natural Born Citizens” in the GOP that they want to put in the WH one day – Rubio, Jindal, maybe even Arnie. So, by the Repubs keeping quiet and letting the fraud go on, they think a precedent will be set that will benefit them one day.
    Both party politicians are thinking alike on this issue. They all are thinking only of how it benefits themselves and their party. Neither party gives a hoot about the Constitution.

  47. Mark Galperin
    October 15th, 2011 @ 7:37 pm

    It’s time to realize that the acting POTUS is the most grateful POTUS in the world history. That’s what make him insubmergible. Orly’s victory in the court might happen only as a miracle.

  48. Kelley
    October 15th, 2011 @ 8:05 pm

    “the truth”. I see what you mean, that was a strange thing for her to say to the judge.

  49. The Truth
    October 16th, 2011 @ 1:29 am

    Thank you Kelley!

    At least I’m getting through to a few people who read these comments!
    I feel like I learn just as much, or more, from the comments on an article, than I do from the actual article anymore. That is why I started participating in the first place.

  50. wheninthecourse
    October 16th, 2011 @ 4:35 pm

    i hope obama drops dead soon from a massive coronary

  51. Birdy
    October 16th, 2011 @ 4:57 pm

    The Truth directs our attention to an interesting point. Nagamine – “… in a position of power to make a determination over the holder of the White House.” So is Loretta Fuddy in a position of power to make a determination? Is the Supreme Court? Does Nagamine imply that someone else has made a determination? About what? About whether “the holder of the White House” is eligible to be Presient? That the “holder of the White House” is was born in Hawaii? That the “holder of the White House” is a natural born citizen? Who made that determination? Chiyome Fukino? Loretta Fuddy? Why was a determination necessary? Why not show the Dept. of Health documents and let the American people and perhaps a court of law examine the evidence and make a determination?

    The Truth, you are right. Nagamine let the cat out of the bag. They believe they are the official authorities given the power to “make a determination” and the rest of can go to h..l.

  52. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    October 16th, 2011 @ 6:27 pm

    we don’t wish this on anybody. Wish for one honest judge to rule based on evidence

  53. Chito
    October 17th, 2011 @ 8:12 am

    Many judges are honest, but most are probably too intimidated to rule against the ruling administration. During the dictatorial Marcos administration in the Philippines, a judge himself did not show up in court rather than decide on a case against Marcos. Same thing is happening here. One call from Eric Holder and the judges are intimidated.

  54. Communist Coup
    October 17th, 2011 @ 10:12 am

    I hope you come to Tennessee some day Orly. We will beat you up and have you thrown in Jail alongside Walt Fitzpatrick.

  55. Communist Coup
    October 17th, 2011 @ 10:13 am

    “Both party politicians are thinking alike on this issue. They all are thinking only of how it benefits themselves and their party. Neither party gives a hoot about the Constitution.”

    It’s going to take a civil war for you to be able to do anything about it. I say bring it on. I say DEATH TO ALL TREASONOUS BIRTHERS.

  56. Elizabeth
    October 17th, 2011 @ 7:08 pm

    Aha!! I knew it.. you all are
    red-lettered Communists, strutting
    your stuff in TN,
    and not really disgruntled
    and corrupt law officers, judges,
    and attorneys.

    That changes the law of averages.

    Communists, when recognized for
    what they are, do not survive for
    very long in America, which is
    a nation of millions of true-blue
    Patriots; we outnumber you and we
    will never forget the demise of Hitler,
    the Russian Revolution, Hiroshima, Iraq,
    Italy, along with a plethora of
    hopeful dictators, fallen
    ignominiously by the wayside.

  57. The Truth
    October 17th, 2011 @ 9:54 pm

    Communist Coup is full of communist crap. ‘Nuff said.

  58. Bob J
    October 18th, 2011 @ 8:27 pm

    Thank-you Dr Taitz. You delete relevate comments with the greatest of ease

  59. DixT
    October 20th, 2011 @ 8:18 am

    To Sybil Earl: People from anywhere in the world can “file” their foreign B.C. with ANY state or County gov’t. in the U.S., and get a “Certification of Live Birth” just like Obama first showed to the world. Those “Certification of Live Birth” certificates DO NOT show WHERE that person was born! It only says that the Certification of Live Birth is a “whatever state” document! We use them (or did) in Colorado, as well. I’ve TRIED to make people aware of this for the past 3 years!!! My daughter-in-law was born and raised in Mexico. She recorded her Mexican B.C. with the state of Colorado. Her “Certification of Live Birth” says: STAT OF COLORADO, then her name and date of birth. It then shows her Father’s name and “where” HE was from, and her Mother and “where” SHE was from—but it DOES NOT say WHERE my daughter-in-law was born!!! It just says it’s a “State of Colorado Certification of Live Birth”.

  60. Stock
    October 20th, 2011 @ 8:47 am

    Orly; You were cited in a Front Page article in the Miami Herald today. The Headline is: Birthers, turn their attention to Rubio.

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