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Citizen’s Grand Juries in 12 states indict Obama. Foreman of the first grand jury intends to serve him at the White House with the indictments

Posted on | June 17, 2009 | 42 Comments

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:49 PM
To:
dr_taitz@yahoo.com

Just got the word from Carl Swensson about upcoming effort to hand deliver Presentments to Barry Soetoro

 

“We’ve had enough! I Carl Swensson and Mack Ellis will be in Washington, D.C., June 29th, in the year

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42 Responses to “Citizen’s Grand Juries in 12 states indict Obama. Foreman of the first grand jury intends to serve him at the White House with the indictments”

  1. sue
    June 17th, 2009 @ 11:05 pm

    Ole Carl and Mack Ellis will get arrested too. Those stupid presentments have no validy whatsoever. Kangaroo court.

  2. Norman Murray
    June 17th, 2009 @ 11:38 pm

    Would any of those public servants sworn to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic consider joining Joe citizens, Mr. Swensson and Mr. Ellis on June 29th as they deliver their Presentments?

  3. sue
    June 17th, 2009 @ 11:46 pm

    I’d pay big money to see this one. ROTFL (Roll On The Floor Laughing.)

  4. James
    June 17th, 2009 @ 11:47 pm

    Carl might want to bring a bunch of lawyers with him so he not intiminated or bullied. The White House will try to stop him. He must fight hard but not resort to any violence. This movement must taken without any violence and legally.

  5. Jack Ryan
    June 18th, 2009 @ 1:07 am

    I hope someone will be there with a video camera to record this historic moment.

  6. Larry
    June 18th, 2009 @ 2:07 am

    Yes….take him down

  7. bill
    June 18th, 2009 @ 6:34 am

    It would be great if these men could look into the white of his eyes,but unfortunately Mr O will be just too too busy putting the habias grabus on EVERYTHING to give an audience.Salute to both of you MEN.

  8. Legal Beagle
    June 18th, 2009 @ 6:46 am

    He might have to leave them with a male mail clerk at DoJ.

  9. el
    June 18th, 2009 @ 8:28 am

    wouldn’t IG Gerald Walpin have substance sufficient for a ” Quo Warranto ” suit against Obama?

  10. el
    June 18th, 2009 @ 8:34 am

    has anyone approached the AIC (american inns of court), about the Obama’s legitimacy to sit in the presidency ?
    i just read about them and their dedication to legal ethics.

  11. tainler
    June 18th, 2009 @ 8:46 am

    I doubt white house security will let anyone in or even near if they know this is coming. Should the date not be known and wont some kind of office need to be present?

  12. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    June 18th, 2009 @ 9:30 am

    he needs to agree to be a plaintiff. Nobody was able to reach him. I cannot sue on his behalf without his consent

  13. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    June 18th, 2009 @ 9:35 am

    would you like to be a cameraman?

  14. cookie
    June 18th, 2009 @ 9:39 am

    I wonder if Carl is bringing the Georgia Fake Indictment, or one of the AGJ Fake Indictments.

    One the one hand, Carl really did get 25 moonbats to personally attend his little workshop. The Georgia Fake Indictment has a smidgen of reality to back it up. On the other hand, those AGJ Fake Indictments are real classy lookin’, what with the eagle on the front of the “presentments” and all. It’s a real pickle.

    I do hope the whole Republic of Birfistan joins him. Every last person in this great land of ours who sincerely believes President Obama is a Usurper should go to Washington, D.C. next weekend in solidarity with Carl and Mack. Time to stop yappin’ on teh Intartoobz and get something done about it.

    Rah, rah, rah.

    And then I’d like to see a group photo of the crowd.

  15. Jack Ryan
    June 18th, 2009 @ 9:44 am

    I would absolutely love to, Orly. Unfortunately, I will be in depositions 6/29-7/2 then on a golfing trip entertaining clients over the weekend of 7/4.

    Maybe another time.

  16. queenofshina
    June 18th, 2009 @ 9:55 am

    Hey, Sue…It might be better for all if they are arrested. Supposedly we are guaranteed the right to a fair trial. Then everything would come out when the men testified in court what they did and why they did it…unless of course the press suppressed it.

    Let’s hope and pray they succeed.

  17. lojo
    June 18th, 2009 @ 10:03 am

    That would be hysterical. Bringing the fake indictments to the white house would probably be the stupidest thing Carl can do with his life. I mean, if he wants to get even higher on the CIA and secret service watch list go right ahead. If he goes through with this he will get arrested, he will go to court, and he has a high probablility of going to jail. But hey- just more publicity right?

  18. sue
    June 18th, 2009 @ 10:39 am

    “queenofshina says:
    Then everything would come out when the men testified in court what they did and why they did it…”

    You really should go find a competent lawyer to explain to you how the law really works.

    “dr_taitz@yahoo.com says:
    June 18, 2009 at 9:30 am
    he needs to agree to be a plaintiff. Nobody was able to reach him. I cannot sue on his behalf without his consent”

    This guy doesn’t have “standing” either. His only beef with President Obama is that he was fired. Nothing to do with eligibility. 🙂

  19. Jacqlyn Smith
    June 18th, 2009 @ 11:18 am

    Orly…the Obots are out in force….must me getting scared…..keep up the great job and may God be with you!!

  20. Michelle
    June 18th, 2009 @ 12:00 pm

    Up-to-the-minute news, photos and video of the aftermath of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s disputed election in Iran. Full Coverage
    Isn’t amazing that the press is all over this story re: revolt in Iran over a “fixed” (?) election. For whatever reason the people of Iran are not buying “the company” line. Aren’t we lucky to have exactly the same problem, yet our press cannot report on it. New way to get the news out twitter thru Iran then the press of the United States of America will report on our illegal alien president. The people of Iran have taken to the streets, the people of the United States of America took their cases to the court system(s). For the sake of both countries I hope that the truth will win out in the end.

  21. maggie
    June 18th, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

    Go Carl!! Most of you who criticize our fight to get back control, and remove a foriegn enemy, are very welcome to continue living free after WE do all the work to keep it that way>
    Your ignorance is shameful. “THE ULTIMATE IGNORANCE IS THE REJECTION OF SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AND REFUSE TO INVESTIGATE”_DR. DYER
    tHAT SAYS IT ALL FOR ALL OF YOU WHO DEGRADE THIS MOVEMENT.

    JUST REMEMBER….’ YOU SNOOZE…YOU LOOSE.!!!!!! GO BACK TO SLEEP, YOU SHEEPLE

  22. kenneth
    June 18th, 2009 @ 12:22 pm

    There should be a large crowd backing these men up. Unfortunately they will probably be alone. American citizens are to intimidated by government officials today, time to get a pair and stand up to be counted.
    I would go with them except am disabled and hate that I cannot go!
    As far as being arrested what would be the charges?
    Regardless of what some that have been posting on this site believe this is still a free country and Obama is not God as they believe. even if they are arrested fine then they will have the right for a jury trial and would still accomplish what they set out to do.

  23. 12th Generation AMERICAN
    June 18th, 2009 @ 12:38 pm

    To all of those calling the indictments “fake”: What would be more appropriate to serve on a “fake” POTUS? They could put him on trial in a “fake” court (SCOTUS comes to mind) and send him to a “fake” prison at Gitmo for the rest of his “fake” life!?!?!

  24. Parry Hauter
    June 18th, 2009 @ 1:01 pm

    I hope these gentlemen rent their hotel rooms afterward and not before or they may waste their money.
    There will already be people there to fee, shelter and protect these two patriots.
    They’ll even interview them and will listen to every word they have to say.

    I also agree they should take as many lawyers as they can.
    Lawyers can protect them very well and they’ll also be shown the same kindness and attention their clients receive.
    It’ll be a win-win for everyone.

  25. bill
    June 18th, 2009 @ 1:07 pm

    While having something notarized,the lawyer made the claim that the law was open to interpretation and if this “interpretation” is not based on the Constitution or the Bill of rights,which it seems SCOTUS doesn’t follow,then it must be that all laws are simply a pick and choose of what people like or dislike..Does this mean we have prisons full of men/women that was put there,simply on somebodys whim ? Seems to me we don’t have any foundation other than where each individual is judged guilty,until proven rich.I’m wondering if any jurors hearing a case in the future will tell “his/her honor” Sorry ,but I don’t want to reach a verdict,because I don’t happen to like this law.

  26. queenofshina
    June 18th, 2009 @ 1:19 pm

    It is somewhat amusing to see the negative and hateful comments given here about what Carl and Mack (and Orly) are courageously doing on your behalf. It is the likes of you and yours that we are in this position today because you are too gutless, ignorant and cowardly to do anything except sit back and find fault. If they are arrested, let the world know and let the world know why! And you are going to sit back and laugh? You’ll be laughing, too, when they lock you up.

  27. Carl Swensson
    June 18th, 2009 @ 2:07 pm

    Woke this morning to the news that we have a breakthrough and are on the verge of successfully completing this journey. On or arround JULY 4th is the time frame for disclosure.
    What were you OBOTS thinking when you voted for this train wreck?
    The truth wins!
    The USURPER looses!
    PSALM 109

  28. sillyhaha
    June 18th, 2009 @ 2:24 pm

    “queenofshina says:
    June 18, 2009 at 9:55 am
    Hey, Sue…It might be better for all if they are arrested. Supposedly we are guaranteed the right to a fair trial. Then everything would come out when the men testified in court what they did and why they did it…unless of course the press suppressed it.

    Let’s hope and pray they succeed.”

    Queenofshina,

    The only thing that would come out of a trial of Swannson is whether or not HE broke the law. Nothing about the eligibility issue would be admitted as it would be irrelevant to the case. Discovery for the BC would not be granted in Swannson’s case.

    Not trying to be a wet blanket, but any trial regarding the arrest of presentment filers would not involve the eligibility issue. It might give some publicity to the cause, but the type of publicity might be more harmful than helpful to our cause.

  29. Robert
    June 18th, 2009 @ 2:56 pm

    There is nothing fake, phoney or cheesy about the AGJ indictments. I served one on my local District Attorney after filing it with the Clerk of Court. It follows the accepted indictment form. You Obots need to find another site to troll.

  30. Al
    June 18th, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

    Orly,

    The American hating usurper supporters are replying to this blog in droves which shows that the heat is being turned up in the kitchen. The AGJ is not fake in any way shape and form, it is guaranteed by the Constitution, for those that can actually read. The indictments are genuine and have standing and take precedence over the judiciary. The people own this country and all grand juries are made up of everyday citizens, not the deviants that support the greatest criminal in American history, the ineligible usurper. Anybody who doesn’t believe we have tyranny in America has overdosed on OBOT Kool aid. There must be a way to ban these imbeciles from posting on this site. They will rue the day they took a stand against our Constitution as the patriots will bring them a dose of reality.

  31. Jeffer
    June 18th, 2009 @ 6:37 pm

    How funny is this: Al says: “Anybody who doesn’t believe we have tyranny in America has overdosed on OBOT Kool aid.”

    Then, without a hint that he comprehends the irony of it, follows this up with: “There must be a way to ban these imbeciles from posting on this site.”

    Well, Al, denying people freedom of speech is indeed one sign of tyranny, wouldn’t you agree?

  32. live oak
    June 18th, 2009 @ 6:45 pm

    Well said Al. They will rue the day. Do you two really think Barry Kenya Boy Soetero gives a damn about you? I wish I could feel sorry for you but I don’t.

  33. NewEnglandPatriot
    June 18th, 2009 @ 7:01 pm

    I also served on a Citizens’ Grand Jury. The presentment is legal, meets all of the requirements under the Fifth Amendment, and has all the information a court needs to determine its validity.

    What I can’t figure out is why ANYONE, with all of this evidence against their guy, still want him in the White House. This is not a popularity contest. We’re talking about the President of the United States, defender of our freedom and leader of the free world. We’re talking about someone who puts his country ahead of himself. Obambi is nothing but a self-centered narcissist who is so full of himself that he is mentally ill.

    I think the Walpin case could be Obambi’s undoing. Walpin’s not backing down. He has had a distinguished career and isn’t about to slink off like so many other spineless Americans like Sue. True Americans stand up for themselves and fight for principle.

    It has already been out in several news outlets that Obama broke the law by the abrupt firings. Walpin’s wasn’t the only one. Good. He’s bringing himself down. Serves him right for being such a liar.

  34. NewEnglandPatriot
    June 18th, 2009 @ 7:20 pm

    As an attorney himself, I hope that Mr. Walpin knows that he could file a Quo Warranto case. His situation is the perfect setup for one. However, since he technically does not work at the pleasure of the president as the U.S. attorneys do, perhaps it’s not actually necessary for him to challenge Obama on his eligibility. If he loses his case against the dismissal, however, he should be able to file QW to challenge the order of the usurper.

  35. Larry
    June 18th, 2009 @ 11:53 pm

    I think if we cant get rid of them we should just ignore them. Things are heating up and they cant take the truth coming out. You and I and everyone here knows they are all spewing verbal diarhea. they are basically talking to a wall.

    Dont let them hinder our goals. Point them to a toilet cause thats the only thing that will listen to them.

    Cookie and lojo go spew your verbal bowels where it belongs.

    Go Orly and AGJ!

  36. KBB
    June 19th, 2009 @ 3:18 am

    sillyhaha says: “…Not trying to be a wet blanket, but any trial regarding the arrest of presentment filers would not involve the eligibility issue….the type of publicity might be more harmful than helpful to our cause.”—–
    “OUR” cause?? “Our cause”??? And just what might that cause be, that you are claiming to be a part of with us….hmmmm, sillyhaha?? HAHA!! Uh, thanks a bunch for your counsel, but we don’t need it. You should check with Obama…maybe he could use your advice. C ya….

  37. Robert
    June 19th, 2009 @ 9:34 am

    “Well, Al, denying people freedom of speech is indeed one sign of tyranny, wouldn’t you agree?”

    This is Orly’s house. She can do what she likes.

    I dare you to come to MY house and spout such ignorance.

  38. queenofshina
    June 19th, 2009 @ 12:13 pm

    Sue and Sillyhaha…you mean they won’t even ask Carl what he is serving (an indictment) and why he feels he should be serving it? In other words, if I break into some one’s house and they put me on trial, the court won’t ask me what my intentions were? And why is serving an indictment illegal? What do they do in court? Just sit and smile at each other all day? And his defense attorney can’t maneuver around to interrogate in a leading manner ?I don’t know much about law, but it seems to me there should be a lot of questions asked by someone there or our legal sytem is all a lost cause.

  39. pjr
    June 19th, 2009 @ 1:31 pm

    The simple FACT that Orly allows dissent posted on her site, says reams for her honesty and credibility. Most of the Obot BOfer sites would ban postings with the same type of comment coming from the birther side.

    BTW, Better a BIRTHER/BIRFER than a BOFER, KOOKIE! How does that do for getting you ROTFL, SUEZY?! The nature of a BOFER makes ROTFL dangerous. The definition found BELOW explains why.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bofer

  40. sillyhaha
    June 19th, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

    “queenofshina says:
    June 19, 2009 at 12:13 pm
    Sue and Sillyhaha…you mean they won’t even ask Carl what he is serving (an indictment) and why he feels he should be serving it? In other words, if I break into some one’s house and they put me on trial, the court won’t ask me what my intentions were? And why is serving an indictment illegal? What do they do in court? Just sit and smile at each other all day? And his defense attorney can’t maneuver around to interrogate in a leading manner ?I don’t know much about law, but it seems to me there should be a lot of questions asked by someone there or our legal sytem is all a lost cause.”

    QueenofShina:

    I was simply responding to your comment on what could happen if Mr. Swennson was arrested and tried. You brought up the issue. If Swennson was arrested and tried for a crime, which in all likelihood (and hopefully he will not), the trial would be about his behavior, not Obama’s.

    If I remember correctly, some of the folks want to be arrested when they serve GJ indictments. They think they will gain discovery of the BC if they go to trial. I personally don’t see it working that way, but certainly Dr. Taitz will correct both of us should we be wrong.

    The only way to get the BC is through direct lawsuits. Getting oneself arrested and linking your behavior to the eligibility issue will not grant you discovery of the BC.

    I don’t make the rules. The government and the courts make the rules.

    Your beef is with them, not me.

    As to your last comment about questions needing to be asked. I am here and supporting Dr. Taitz because she is the one lawyer who continues to ask questions and she demands answers. She isn’t sitting on her bum like Berg. She hasn’t given up like some of the other attorneys have. She keeps going. And for that we ALL owe her thanks.

  41. Robert
    June 19th, 2009 @ 7:37 pm

    Sillyhaha, “arrested” for what?