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I did not close the comments, somebody else did it, more evidence of tampering with my blog, in order to lower it’s rating and visibility

Posted on | November 15, 2010 | 9 Comments

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 Reply |Alec to me
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Hi Orly,
Here is the response I wrote to Politijabber, but I see you have closed the comments.  Just then for your own information, this is what I wrote:

Politijabber,
Apparently, your training in law school and vast legal experience has hard-wired your brain to change the subject.  Stay on point.  You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off point.  This boils down to alternatives.  Either:
1) You have not evaluated the evidence in this case, in which event it is inappropriate for you to comment.
2) You have evaluated the evidence and come to the conclusion that BHO/Soetoro is unquestionably eligible, there is no legitimate question.  If so, how can this possibly be?  Can you PLEASE explain it to us lounge lizards, us subhuman, brute-minded, mentally deficient, uneducated,  tin-foil hat, common pond scum?  If you can explain it in childlike terms, so us commoners in the peanut gallery may understand, then you may put this entire issue to rest.  Please do.
3) You have evaluated the evidence and come to the conclusion that BHO is not eligible, in which case you should stop criticizing Orly for her alleged lack of legal expertise and chip in yourself, help out to see our constitution preserved or restored, since you are unquestionably a patriot, as you say.
Stick to the issue.  You may tell me to “eat shit” as you say, or call me names, but ANSWER THE QUESTION, do you support and defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic as all judges, government employees, military swore to do, or do you suck up to whomever you perceive holds the power by coup d’etat, for the crumbs they temporarily throw your way?
4) Is there another alternative?  I’m just asking a question.
Lizard

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9 Responses to “I did not close the comments, somebody else did it, more evidence of tampering with my blog, in order to lower it’s rating and visibility”

  1. Politijabber
    November 15th, 2010 @ 7:39 pm

    Alec, come up with some authenticated and admissible evidence, then we can have a debate. Right now, you have no hard evidence that is authenticated or admissible in a court of law.

    As an attorney I am sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States. I do this by researching the law, understanding the statutes, applying precedent, and by refraining from offering falsified documents and pursuing frivolous arguments that have no legal basis and no reasonable prospect of being overruled.

    I have no intention of “pitching in” as you put it. What you birthers offer as “evidence” is not evidence at all; it is conjecture bootstrapped to speculation. You have NO authenticated proof that President Obama was born anywhere but in the United States. You have NO valid legal argument to overturn 200-plus years of precedent. You have only a passion against a man you hate and a willingness to offer unsubstantiated rumor and rampant speculation. Courts do not admit such, and thus you are bound to fail, just like the 71 suits that have failed to date. No thanks. Pitching in to aid the deluded birther narrative is no way to make productive use of my well-earned legal skills.

  2. Jim
    November 15th, 2010 @ 7:43 pm

    A question for Politijabber:

    You being an attorney, although a judge has no legal obligation to do so, do you agree that he has an ethical obligation to investigate ( or refer it to the US attorneys office for investigation ) the report of a felony ( the illegal use of a SS number ) committed by a party in a case presented to him ? Especially when such judge, Royce Lamberth, was the former Chairman of the Professional Ethics Committee of the Federal Bar Association. When this same judge SUSPECTED that perjury was committed in his court in the litigation to open the health care task force, he asked Holder, who at the time was the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, to investigate Ira Magaziner for possible perjury and criminal contempt of court. He also suggested that Attorney General Janet Reno should appoint an independent counsel to investigate. So we know that this judge is not reluctant to ask for investigations when suspected crimes are committed. Also, don’t you think the US attorneys have both a legal and an ethical obligation to investigate a report of a crime committed against the United States ?

  3. Alec
    November 16th, 2010 @ 5:05 am

    Politijabber,
    Thank you for your more cordial tone. What I do or say, is for the U.S. Constitution only, not because I hate anybody. The evidence is so vast that this message does not allow for comprehensive discussion. The COLB was crudely produced in a graphics program for example, and this is easy to prove. The Social Security number has been issued more than once, according to sworn affidavits (just examples). I am sure if you were a prosecutor, you would introduce these exhibits and many others as evidence.

  4. Politijabber
    November 16th, 2010 @ 5:08 am

    Jim, the answer to your question is, no, a judge is not obligated to rule on any motion once the case is closed. Check the docket for the D.C. case: “Closed.” If the litigant is unhappy with the court’s ruling and believes it to be in error, the remedy is to file a notice of appeal within the appropriate time set out by the rules.

    Judges do not “investigate.” They preside over cases that are filed. If you want an investigation, lobby your Congressperson.

  5. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    November 16th, 2010 @ 5:22 am

    You are absolutely wrong. CIA case was reopened under 60B motion by Lamberth and the plaintiff ended up winning the case and U.S. attorneys ended up being sanctioned by the court. If justice is to be served, that is exactly what should happen in this case as well. Thousands of cases around the nation were reopened under 60B motion. You are an Obama supporter, maybe you were paid by Obama or someone close to him, maybe it is just a passion for you, but you know that 60B motion is used very often and judges often reverse their initial opinion on this motion. You are trying to misinform the public. If the case would be closed and shut after the initial opinion, there wouldn’t t be a 59 or 60 motion in the codes. Would it?

  6. Michelle
    November 16th, 2010 @ 5:57 am

    Dear Dr. Orly-this is an excellent book. Vera (England) had to recruit agents during WW2 to go behind enemy lines to report on enemy (Germans) activity-young men and women-they were parachuted into occupied France. Vera loved her agents-like a mother, older sister-so after the war was over-she had to find out what happened to her people-Julia Child was part of this group-this essentially was what the book is about. Part of it that applies here is they had to supply documentation for the agents not only forged it had to be perfect down to the labels in the clothing. Obama’s forgers made way too many mistakes, some sloppier than others,hence lies, cover-ups, disinformation etc. I think they are mad because they got caught. If you were an agent in WW2 and you had the Obama group supplying your life saving documents, the Germans would have made you in a heartbeat. It was life and death for all of the agents not all made it-heartbreaking.
    Book Review: A Life In Secrets – Vera Atkins and the Missing Agents of WWII by Sarah Helm
    Read more: https://blogcritics.org/books/article/book-review-a-life-in-secrets/#ixzz15S9Dp5Sw

  7. Jim
    November 16th, 2010 @ 8:01 am

    “Jim, the answer to your question is, no, a judge is not obligated to rule on any motion once the case is closed.”

    I am not talking about after the case was closed. I was talking about when the case was still in his court.

    “Judges do not “investigate.” They preside over cases that are filed. If you want an investigation, lobby your Congressperson.”

    Yes, but they do refer issues to the appropriate authorities for investigation ( see health care task force case )

    You didn’t answer my question . I asked if YOU believed he had an ethical obligation to ask for an investigation.

    Under the Code of Conduct for US judges :

    Canon 1:
    A Judge Should Uphold the Integrity and Independence of the Judiciary

    CANON 2:
    A. Respect for Law. A judge should respect and comply with the law and should act at all times in a manner that promotes public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary.

    By ignoring a report of a felony to the court, do you think that “promotes public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary ” ? I think not.

    Now what about the US attorneys ? They certainly have a legal if not ethical responsibility to investigate.

  8. Chum Lee
    November 16th, 2010 @ 11:38 am

    Orly,

    He is not wrong. First, litigants rarely succeed on 60b motions when a default judgment is not at issue. See United States’,. State of Washington, 98 F.3d 1159, 1163 (9th Cir. 1996) (“[s]uch relief is granted only “sparingly as an equitable remedy to prevent manifest injustice… where extraordinary circumstances prevented a party from taking timely action to prevent or correct an erroneous judgment.”

    “Granted only sparingly” is not equal to “60B motion is used very often and judges often reverse their initial opinion on this motion”.

    Second, your case is closed and the filing of a 60b motion does not stap the clock on a notice of appeal. FRCP 60(c) provides that the “motion does not affect the judgment’s finality or suspend its operation.” This is different from Rule 54 or 59.

    Third, even if you got an adverse ruling on the 60(b) motion, the only thing you could appeal was the denial of the 60(b) motion, because you are out of time on the dismissal of the underlying action.

    In summary, motions to alter or otherwise change a final judgment are rarely granted, and you rolled the dice on the 60(b) instead of filing an appeal. Lamberth can take as long as he wants on the case, and put it at the bottom or top of his priority list. My guess is that he will rule on the motion . . . some day. I feel your pain, I have had motions stuck out there for well over a year.

  9. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    November 16th, 2010 @ 11:51 am

    Lamberth’s case is only one of 4 on the same issue in different courts.
    Substance over form, jutice needs to prevail over technicality, that was the reason for the initial dismissal. Politijabber was wrong on some of the issues before. for example, he claimed that court submissions by mail were based on the date of receipt and not the date of mailing. This was really wrong, he tried to create a confusion on this issue, and I was attacked on several shows by somebody repeating his statements. He and others are wrong on the issue of 4E v 4I service. What I don’t understand, is that you are all silent, when I am being attacked by Berg with clear malice and defamation of character, about the fact, that he is using a convicted forger to prepare and submit pleadings to all the courts. Why didn’t you write an Amicus to the Third Circuit and a complaint to the disciplinary board of PA on this. The man clearly egregiously violated rules of ethics, made up insane defamatory statenents about me, claiming that I tried to hire a hit man to kill his assistant. This is so horrific and insane, but did not hear a pip of any of you truth seekers on that.

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