9th Circuit included Lindsey case in its’ February 13th oral argument docket. In Lindsey the district court confirmed that a candidate who is not eligible should be thrown off the ballot, while in Grinols the same district ruled the opposite. This is flagrant discrimination and bias in favor of the establishment candidate Obama
Posted on | January 20, 2014 | 18 Comments
Both Lindsey case and my case Grinols et al v Electoral college, Obama, Congress, secretary of State of CA, Governor of CA are now before the 9th Circuit. In Lindsey the Eastern District of Ca confirmed decision of the Se of State to throw of the ballot Peta Lindsey who was not Constitutional y eligible, but the same District refused to take action against Obama, who is even less eligible than Lindsey. Lindsey might not be 355 y.o., but she at least has papers. Obama does not have any papers verifying his identification.
9th Circuit is in catch 22. This is a clear discrimination. I believe that this discrimination in 2 similar cases will reach both the supreme Court and the Interamerican court for Human rights.
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January 20th, 2014 @ 4:44 am
This should be a CheckMate. And brought to the attention of congress.
January 20th, 2014 @ 5:42 am
You never proved that Obama was not eligible. The hurdles you had were proving that the state of Hawaii has provided a forgery. The problem is that the state of Hawaii said it was not a forgery.
Since Obama was clearly over the age of 35, was a citizen at birth, and had lived in the country for the required amount of time – all proven in the eyes of the court – you lost.
January 20th, 2014 @ 5:54 am
no I did not lose, as the case was never heard on the merits, there was never any discovery. If there is a question of authenticity of a document, a copy, even a certified copy is not acceptable, original needs to be examined. HI refused to provide an original BC or any other original document for Obama
January 20th, 2014 @ 6:14 am
You still lost
January 20th, 2014 @ 6:21 am
True, but in the eyes of the court, they view Lindsey as a “non refert”.
(Meaning “this doesn’t matter” for those of you who never took latin in school. they don’t care. They will support Obama)
The illegal social security number strategy is brilliant and should be his doing in. The IRS will bring him down like they took down Al Capone. Surely he had income that he failed to declare as a student.
No valid SSN means he is not allowed to hold a federal job.
The irony is that he wasn’t allowed to register for ObamaCare, and while no FOIA has come back about whether or not he was rejected on his SSN has been returned, it would be great if this created the proverbial nail in the coffin.
January 20th, 2014 @ 6:49 am
I did not lose, the 9th Circuit did not rule on Grinols yet
January 20th, 2014 @ 7:11 am
looks like stiring up the bee hive is working
January 20th, 2014 @ 7:13 am
what exactly do you mean?
January 20th, 2014 @ 9:41 am
Perhaps you should look up “distinguishable” as to the cases you list. Just sayin’.
January 20th, 2014 @ 12:14 pm
Without identity papers Obama’s age cannot be verified.
January 20th, 2014 @ 12:56 pm
“You never proved that Obama was not eligible.”
Nonsense! You reveal your ignorance and/or dishonesty. The is no NEED for doubters to prove fraud. State election laws (which ignorant and/or complicit judges totally and conveniently IGNORE) CLEARLY place the burden of proof of eligibility COMPLETELY on the CANDIDATE (which our illegal alien defiantly refuses to do), NOT on the challengers!
“The hurdles you had were proving that the state of Hawaii has provided a forgery. The problem is that the state of Hawaii said it was not a forgery.”
Yes, that IS a problem, because, rather than commit pejury, hawaiian officials flatly (and wisely) refuse to swear under oath to the authenticity of the alledged birth certificate posted on the official U.S. government site WhiteHouse.Gov. This, together with the facts that expert forensic examination reveals that computer-generated image to be an obvious forgery, and that no less than Neil Abercrombie, the governor of the state of Hawaii stated publicly that on the basis of an exhaustive search no such document even exists, demands that, rather than allow injustice through fraud and deception of the court, any honest and competent judge will immediately order full discovery.
January 20th, 2014 @ 1:33 pm
“You never proved that Obama was not eligible.”
Nonsense! You reveal your ignorance and/or dishonesty. The is no NEED for doubters to prove fraud. State election laws (which ignorant and/or complicit judges totally and conveniently IGNORE) CLEARLY place the burden of proof of eligibility COMPLETELY on the CANDIDATE (which our illegal alien defiantly refuses to do), NOT on the challengers!
“The hurdles you had were proving that the state of Hawaii has provided a forgery. The problem is that the state of Hawaii said it was not a forgery.”
Yes, that IS a problem, because, rather than commit pejury, hawaiian officials flatly (and wisely) refuse to swear under oath to the authenticity of the alledged birth certificate posted on the official U.S. government site WhiteHouse.Gov. This, together with the facts that expert forensic examination reveals that computer-generated image to be an obvious forgery, and that no less than Neil Abercrombie, the governor of the state of Hawaii stated publicly that on the basis of an exhaustive search no such document even exists, demands that, rather than allow injustice through fraud and deception of the court, any honest and competent judge will immediately order full discovery.
January 20th, 2014 @ 1:55 pm
They are running scared of the truth…that is why they are swarming around with no thought without facts trying to control the outcome thru your mind…Atlas Shrugged something they
never read.
January 20th, 2014 @ 4:18 pm
“Since Obama was clearly over the age of 35, …”
Obama’s age cannot be verified without a valid birth certificate or other verifiable document.
“… was a citizen at birth, and had lived in the country for the required amount of time …”
You sound like the judges who merely ASSUME what the law requires Barry or whoever he is to PROVE! His true legal identity, his age and place of birth are the very unproven things at issue. Furthermore, even if he were a (U.S.) citizen at birth, his indonesian school record and changes to his mother’s passport reveal that he lost that U.S. citizenship, if any, when he became an indonesian citizen through his adoption by a citizen of Indonesia. Last, but certainly not least, as we see in the U.S. supreme court decision in Minor v Happersett, he does NOT meet the constitutional requirements for eligibility to be POTUS due to the fact that his biological father was never a U.S. citizen.
January 20th, 2014 @ 4:56 pm
HANK WILLIAMS WROTE >
And, by so doing he has broadcast his ignorance to all who may read this list. Hank is ignorant of — or, more likely, being an Obot, chooses to ignore facts, like there ARE differences in the several forms OF citizenship! Our Constitution demands that a candidate for POTUS BE a NATURAL born citizen — THAT means BOTH parents MUST BE citizens AT THE TIME he was born AND that he be born ON AMERICAN SOIL.
Poor Hank. By his logic, bouncers would be required to PROVE that someone WAS UNDERAGE before admitting them to a place where minimum age is 21. Our Constitution is like a “bouncer” — it is put in place TO KEEEP THOSE WHO ARE NOT ELIGIBLE OUT. To get IN, one has TO PROVE s/he is eligibole! NOT the oter way areound Hank.
January 20th, 2014 @ 4:58 pm
Addendum / Correction to prior post…
Hank Williams wrote <> It did not appear in the prior post. S/S/.
January 20th, 2014 @ 5:45 pm
So Hanky Pants you believe the state of Hawaii…
You believe that Fuddy was not murdered.
You believe that MLK was not blackmailed by OUR GOVT..
You believe that a black panther back in 1995 who saw his fbi file which did not say “annihilate him because he is too effective”
You believe our GOVT when they continue to carry on the Tuskeegee experiment even though they said they stopped.
You believe that no one has be harrassed by the IRS for speaking against the GOVT..REALLY..
And know you want us all to believe that NSA is not spying on Americans.
And you want us to believe that our GOVT has not killed American citizens without due process.
You believe you can keep your doctor and keep your health plan and not be killed by being elderly by this GOVT..
REALLY.. You tried to defend the SSN that doesn’t belong to Barry Soetorah but a dead man and that the GOVT has to block itself from releasing a GOVT document that should be released to an AMERICAN CITIZEN since the man would be 123yrs old by now.
What planet do you have your head in?
January 22nd, 2014 @ 8:57 pm
This is a FIOS account, and likely a residence. This is also a DHCP connection that can live for days or weeks. Verizon does keep records of assignments for some period of time. I do not know how long that is. Worst case I expect they could nail it down to a few dozen households.
If this person downloaded any movies, or did any torrents, then they absolutely know who this was at the time.
I give 3:1 odds they DO know the household and street address at that time, which means a sheriff could soon come knocking on their door.
Let’s hope for the best. Good luck Orly.