Posted on | October 30, 2009 | 11 Comments
| Rick Stone |
Submitted on 2009/10/30 at 9:41pm
I think that some got to the Judge Carter thru threats, bribes or blackmail. The people behind the people that put Obama in office simply don’t want the truth to get out. They are very serious about protecting their investment and will do anything to that end. |
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October 31st, 2009 @ 1:48 am
Judge Carter complained about citizens contacting the court, yet instead he should have acknowledged that he knew they were being denied their rights, the media was betraying them, and they as his employers were quite welcome to contact the courts they are paying for…the buildings, Carter’s salary, the message machine, his pen, the secretaries who were complaining they had work for a change, his new clerk. Who but a judge would have the nerve to tell their boss to stop calling. If there had been no calls or letters, Carter would have said the case was of no interest to the public, they were happy with the “president.” He just played Alinsky and would spin the events opposite of whatever was going on.
If this were a novel, it would be thrown out as trash! Judge hires president’s friend as clerk, to determine lawsuit against president. Nobody would believe it. That is why they are so bold, trying to inflame a riot, so they can have martial law. Shunning might be more effective. People just turning their backs whenever the president or congress arrives anywhere! And now the judges too!
I think we need to do a pamphlet drive in Pelosi’s neighborhood and set up a neighborhood watch on Mercer Island. I took a trip and drove into Canada, and RIGHT ACROSS THE BORDER is the largest mosque complex I have ever seen. Probably long range missiles are inside every minaret with underground tunnels into the USA and sightseeing boat trips to Mercer Island every other day.
All one can do is continue forward true to one’s beliefs and be ready to lose all friendships with those who believe the media propaganda. Judge David and Judge Land lured Orly and plaintiffs into court for a public attack. But who of these 3 can rest in peace at the end of the day? A clear conscience is the only safe haven. One of these 3 can know for sure she did the right thing for her country. Her fight is not in vain because millions are aware of what is going on because of her, and the tide has turned in every country against people like Obama…the tide will also turn here. God bless America.
October 31st, 2009 @ 2:59 am
Don’t be sad or mad. Go to; naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com. Read carefully what Donofrio wrote. I still have hope that Dr.Orly and the truth will prevail.
October 31st, 2009 @ 9:00 am
My self like many other’s know that this was a bad ruling on Carters part.
He as a Clinton appointee may have skeletons in his closet thta Barky’s people used ,(to use a some what racist phrase these days)to “BLACK MAIL” him with.Never the less there is nothing that shall be covered (hidden) that will not be revealed. Carter will not survive this, he has broken his oath to God and country, and his come uppence is due, just when and where and how?? I don’t know but it will be revealed and he will be forced out in disgrace.
October 31st, 2009 @ 10:52 am
Orly,
I have studied what you have said and done over the last year and whole heartedly stand with you 100%. Having said that, I realize that our government continues to ignore the will of the people while pushing their socialist agenda. One thing this tyrannical government has forgotten over the course of their outrageous disregard for the citizenry is that “we the people” pay their salaries and for all of their corruption through the lost of our freedoms and our constitutional republic. Therefore, I am pledging from this point forward the following:
(I am pledging the following and every citizen has to weigh their own situation and how far they are willing to go to help reverse the course of this government). I pledge the following:
* I will not pay another dime to the federal government until the tax cheats, crooks, and criminals that call themselves Congressmen and Senators have been removed from their respective bodies of our government and convicted and imprisoned for their crimes against the public trust of the citizens of the United States of America and not Mexico, Canada, or the World.
* I will not pay another dime until our corrupt chicken-hearted, spineless, and gutless wonders who wear black robes and hold themselves in such high self-esteem has been removed, recalled, or summarily dismissed through the “impeachment” process that is so widely touted by these magnificent idiots on the courts.
* I will not pay another dime until the “super, incredible, usurping impostor” has the guts and the “audacity” to release “all” of his records. By records I mean everything, including baby pictures if necessary! Hell, at this point, I want statements from everybody that ever knew this clown or grew up with him. I want to know just who the hell is this clown and where the hell he came from?
* I will not pay another dime until my government cease and desist from using military soldiers, international police (Pittsburgh), and local police officers to infiltrate and agitate peaceful protesters into being attack by goons of the government. DHS has went out of their way to ensure that I am informed of my new status as a domestic terrorist by me being a Christian, a combat veteran, a black man, and a Republican to top things off! What’s even more astonishing is the fact that I am listed as public enemy # 1, obviously above Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, CAIR, or the Muslim Brotherhood.
* After reading the federalist papers and the US Constitution I feel it is my solemn duty, at this time in history, to purchase a few handguns and lots of ammunition to protect my family against my tyrannical government and to STOP SUPPLYING MY HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS FOR THEIR WASTEFUL AND UNACCOUNTABLE SPENDING WHILE PROTECTING THEIR LAVISH PERKS AND EVER INCREASING PAY RAISES!
October 31st, 2009 @ 12:19 pm
Leo C. Donofrio
Judge Carter: “The writ of quo warranto must be brought within the District of Columbia because President Obama holds office within that district.”
Posted in Uncategorized on October 29, 2009 by naturalborncitizen
I was impressed with the integrity of Judge Carter’s ruling today. It gives me hope that the POTUS eligibility issue will eventually have its day in court on the merits.
POLITICAL QUESTION DOCTRINE.
Congress is the branch the Constitution empowers to remove a sitting President. The power to judicially enforce any review of POTUS eligibility is a pre-requisite to judicial involvement as the federal courts do not have the power to issue simple advisory opinions. A declaratory judgment is more than an advisory opinion. This is because a declaratory judgment must have the power of enforcement attached whereas an advisory opinion does not.
The declaratory judgment requests of plaintiffs in the Barnett case had to be dismissed because the court does not have subject matter jurisdiction to grant the requested relief. It’s really that simple. Judge Carter’s analysis of this issue was perfect.
QUO WARRANTO
Because a quo warranto is the only proper action to review the eligibility of a sitting President – and because such an action requires a trial of facts – Congress empowered the DC District Court to hold such a trial (by jury if requested by either party) when the eligibility of the President (or any US national office holder) is called into question.
There is no political question doctrine defense available to a sitting President for a quo warranto brought in the DC District Court. This is because Congress properly exercised its Constitutional authority to review a President’s eligibility via the quo warranto statute which also provides for the removal of an ineligible person from that office if necessary.
The US Attorney General and the US attorney have been empowered by Congress to institute a quo warranto on their own volition. Furthermore, any person may request that these officers do the same. If consent is not given by the DOJ, section 3503 of the quo warranto statute allows an “interested person” to petition the DC District Court on its own. The Barnett plaintiffs failed to avail themselves of this option.
Additionally, the Department of Justice has created a genuine conflict of interest as to 3502 requests by any “third person” (meaning any citizen). By defending the President in this eligibility litigation involving quo warranto, it isn’t possible for the Department of Justice to remain impartial.
Therefore, either a special prosecutor must be named for purposes of allowing the Congressional intent of the quo warranto statute to be realized, or the DC District Court may waive the requirement and examine any verified petition on its own consent.
The conflict will eventually be tested in the DC District Court.
Meanwhile, it’s important for me to point out that everything I have told readers of this blog about quo warranto was confirmed by Judge Carter today.
JUDGE CARTER DID NOT HOLD THAT QUO WARRANTO WAS IMPROPER TO CHALLENGE THE ELIGIBILITY OF A SITTING PRESIDENT.
This was the most extraordinary part of today’s ruling. It opens the door wide for a proper eligibility challenge in the DC District Court where the hurdle for standing is different from ordinary federal cases.
Please take note that the Department of Justice attorneys argued before Judge Carter that quo warranto – even if brought properly in the DC District Court – could not be used to challenge the eligibility of a sitting President. Judge Carter’s ruling did not support the Department of Justice position.
The ruling today affirms that the proper venue for challenging the eligibility of a sitting President is the DC District Court.
This is a very encouraging ruling for those contemplating a quo warranto challenge to President Obama’s eligibility in the DC District Court.
THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT ERROR
The only part of today’s ruling I take issue with is footnote 3 on page 22 where Judge Carter assumes that since Congress has the Constitutional authority to enact legislation regarding naturalization and citizenship by statute that they also have the power to define the meaning of “natural born citizen”.
But Congress has not defined “natural born citizen” while they have defined “naturalized citizen” and “citizen by statute”. Since neither the Congress nor the courts have defined “natural born citizen”, we are left without a legal working definition.
Faced with a sitting President who admits to having been a British citizen at birth, the need for a quo warranto to be instituted is of the utmost importance to the future of this nation.
Here is Judge Carter’s correct ruling on the quo warranto issue:
C. Quo Warranto Claims…
The writ of quo warranto must be brought within the District of Columbia because President Obama holds office within that district. The quo warranto provision codified in the District of Columbia Code provides, “A quo warranto may be issued from the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States against a person who within the District of Columbia usurps, intrudes into, or unlawfully holds or exercises, a franchise conferred by the United States or a public office of the United States, civil or military.” D.C. Code §§ 16-3501 – 16-3503. Should a person other than the Attorney General of the United States or the United States Attorney wish to bring a quo warranto claim, that person must receive leave of court to do so. Id. at § 16-3502. This leave of court must be granted, according to the text of the statute, by the District Court for the District of Columbia.
Nothing in today’s ruling appears to question the power of the DC District Court to issue a writ of quo warranto to President Obama which would require him to prove his eligibility to hold the office of President. I must commend Judge Carter for his exercise of judicial restraint on this issue.
October 31st, 2009 @ 12:20 pm
This sickening what’s happening.
Corrupt judges and courts.
How do we get around this, massive protest in the streets.
Hang in there Orly and don’t give up
there are millions of people behind you.
Rick
October 31st, 2009 @ 2:49 pm
Orly needs to track down the original holders of the SS#s (including relatives of the dead) and get them to file complaints against Obama..
October 31st, 2009 @ 4:35 pm
Bottom line, Judge Carter is letting Congress deal with the political stink of Obama — rather than the Constitutional nightmare of endeavoring to have a Court deal with it.
I now beleive Judge Carter masterfully did this in a way that there’s nothing the Govt. Obama Team can appeal or delay by appeal, since, after all, they did get a Dismissal Granted; it’s just that it’s NOT a dismissal of the claim which is still redressable, that being Keyes for fraud in tort.
October 31st, 2009 @ 10:28 pm
Anti-American Judge Carter, was masterful alright. The coward Marine who disgraced the corp and violated his oath, has left us with one last remedy, armed revolution and the re-issuance of the Declaration of Independence!
Semper Fi, lock and load!
October 31st, 2009 @ 10:43 pm
Congress? That hopelessly corrupt bunch? Pigs will fly before those Demonrats will do anything about Ocommie.
November 1st, 2009 @ 9:52 am
Carter had an opportunity to simply transfer the case to DC. He didn’t do it, because he has written further that no court has jurisdiction