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Posted on | April 16, 2014 | 11 Comments

Why is the establishment media ignoring Harry Reid's link to the Cliven Bundy siege?

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  1. daddy warbucks
    April 16th, 2014 @ 11:27 am

    …meanwhile back in Amerika:

    “Affair has exposed a much deeper agenda involving the Chinese. They have a military presence on our soil at the inland ports. Their troops train in Mexico and Canada, and soon we will see Chinese troops in these newly designated Solar Energy Zones. Is the presence of the Solar Energy Zones next to a major American military base, referenced in the two previous articles, a case of blending the Chinese military with the American military? Or, is it a precursor to invasion? Flip a coin. Either way, the Chinese call for tighter gun control in America and their presence on American soil, is a major cause for concern that these two events are not merely a coincidence and the Chinese will spearhead a gun confiscation effort inside of the US.”

    The Chinese Are Here to Confiscate Our Guns
    April 15, 2014 – Dave Hodges
    The Common Sense Show

    Excerpt:
    In Part three of this series on the Bundy affair and what it reveals about the intentions of the Chines military, we look at the fact that the Chinese Solar Energy Zones are located adjacent to an American military base. We examine the ramifications for this placement and the reader can rest assured that this is no coincidence.

    Bundy Achieves Victory but the Event Reveals a Sinister Agenda

    As thousands of sheriffs, militia members and state legislators rushed to the aid of Cliven Bundy, plans are already in place to limit any citizen uprising. We know that the feds recorded license plates and engaged in facial recognition of the people on the scene who were actively supporting Cliven Bundy. This is a very disturbing development when one considers that Obama has been proposing preventative and prolonged detention (i.e. pre-crime) for people who “might” pose a future threat. This is the justification for the usage of FEMA camps.

    Obama explains the FEMA Camps
    https://youtu.be/HkSkQgnEV-Q

    Conspiracy thinkers, or just critical thinkers disparaged by the complicit or the useful idiots.

    Many Military Convoys Now Moving Through the United States

    (This is not American equipment)

    https://youtu.be/ugMmyBUKRy4

  2. daddy warbucks
    April 16th, 2014 @ 11:30 am

    REID Nevada Land Grab Chinese Investors The Big Picture
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-2TdVTV9gM&feature=share&list=UUADUhVAbhc_p7R-zSrZt-Mg

    _____

    Can Feds Grant Eminent Domain to China?

    http://www.libertygunrights.com/CritiqueOfEminentDomain.html

    CRITIQUE OF. “Feds Grant Eminent Domain as Collateral to China for U.S. Debts .” by Bernadine Smith. This is written in response to criticisms regarding the …

  3. Sic Semper Tyrannis
    April 16th, 2014 @ 11:34 am
  4. A Senior Patriot
    April 16th, 2014 @ 2:29 pm

    Yeah, Reid has a commie soul…!

  5. A Senior Patriot
    April 16th, 2014 @ 2:33 pm

    Posting is tough!

    Reid should be held for treason, along with his son, and the governor of Nv!

  6. courage
    April 17th, 2014 @ 9:05 am

    Chief Judge Robert C. Jones of the Federal District Court of Nevada issued a blistering decision that charged officials of the BLM and other agencies with malicious and criminal conduct,
    Filed under: My Posts — Tags: Bundy, China, criminal federal agencies, Hage, Judge jones, land grab, reid — thearizonasentinel @ 2:46 pm
    Please read the new american article

    Most Americans do not have a clue how Americans living in western states have been run off their land over the past thirty plus years by Federal Government agencies such as the BLM, Fish and Wildlife, including all so-called environmental agencies working for the government to take away private property.

    THIS IS A MEDIA LIE… According to coverage one is likely to see from the Establishment media, the show of force is necessary to remove Cliven Bundy’s cattle from “public lands” where they are, allegedly, damaging the “fragile” habitat of the protected desert tortoise. That is the story that is being dispensed by the BLM and retailed in most media accounts. Reason for my forwarding a link so people can learn the truth about the Nevada Ranch Family (See link below following quotes taken from article).

    Cliven Bundy (shown) and his family, friends and neighbors, as well as some legal scholars, tell a different story. According to Bundy, whose family has been ranching in the area since the 1800s, the BLM’s armed invasion and occupation of Nevada has nothing to do with protecting the tortoise and everything to do with running him off the land, as it has already done to all of the other ranchers in Clark County. He notes that more than 50 other ranchers have been bankrupted, intimidated, and forced to give up their land and legal property rights. He is, he points out, “the last man standing”; and now that generations of ranching families have been driven out, federal officials have dropped the pretense that it is all about saving the “endangered” tortoise and have actually been killing the reptiles by the hundreds.

    Yes, that is true; as reported by the liberal Huffington Post and other media outlets last year, the BLM began “euthanizing” the tortoises , claiming the agency did not have sufficient funds in its budget to manage the habitat. How then, critics point out, can the BLM justify the $1 million or more that it will spend rounding up the Bundy family’s cattle. And if the tortoise habitat is so precious and sensitive that the sparse cattle population — which had co-existed with the turtles for generations — had to be removed, why has the BLM been selling the former ranch land to developers?

    As California State University criminology professor Jason Kissner pointed out in a column for American Thinker yesterday, it is the Obama administration’s BLM and Attorney General Eric Holder that are engaged in “brazen lawlessness.” Federal officials are exploiting the fact that few Americans understand the legal complexities of the “split estate,” “prior appropriation doctrine,” and other principles governing water rights, grazing rights, and other land use/property rights on “public” and private lands, that are different in the arid West than in other parts of the country.

    The current battle between the Bundys and the Feds is a replay of the decades-long confrontation between various federal agencies and the late Wayne Hage, the Nevada rancher/liberty activist/scholar who won multiple court victories and landmark decisions against federal overreach. In an interview with The New American in 2002, Hage explained the important legal distinctions that govern property rights in the West, particularly as they apply to so-called public lands.

    For years, the Hage family had been subjected to threats, intimidation, and fines, and — like the Bundys — had their cattle illegally confiscated by federal agents. And, as with the Bundys, the Hages were portrayed by the Feds and their compliant media shills as scofflaws and environmental criminals who deserved to be thrown into the slammer. Last year, as we reported, a federal court once again vindicated the Hages, although by that time Wayne Hage and his wife, former Congresswoman Helen Chenoweth-Hage, had both passed away six years earlier.

    Chief Judge Robert C. Jones of the Federal District Court of Nevada issued a blistering decision that charged officials of the BLM and other agencies with malicious and criminal conduct, and actually engaging in a decades-long “conspiracy” against the Hages. The Federal Government’s actions were so egregious as to “shock the conscience of the Court.”

    A link at bottom of article pays a lovely tribute to one of my two favorite members of the US Congress—former congressman Helen Chenoweth-Hage. Helen is the only honest woman of integrity to ever serve in the US Congress. Like Rep. Ron Paul, Rep. Helen Chenoweth took her oath seriously and defended the US Constitution one-hundred percent. Recommend reading: Remembering a champion: Helen Chenoweth-Hage

    The government sold the Chicoms Nevada land..
    Harry Reid’s Son Representing Chinese Solar Panel Plant in $5 Billion Nevada Deal..

    https://thearizonasentinel.com/

    Several Bundy-related articles at this link…

  7. courage
    April 17th, 2014 @ 10:27 am

    Just got done looking at the youtu.be videos…what was I doing when our “so-called” government was doing this to we the people?? Feb.2009 article,but even MORE relevant now–Bundy case in point….

    Impeachment Time: Obama Grants Eminent Domain Rights to China to Secure Debt
    Chinese_flag.jpg

    William Dupray
    DC Republican Examiner

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    February 27, 2009

    The time for partisan bickering just ended. This is as serious as a heart attack. Obama is going to spend so much money, which he intends to get from China via the sale of government backed bonds, that the Chinese apparently don’t think he’ll be able to make good on them.

    So President Obama gave the Chinese eminent domain rights to American land and businesses as collateral – i.e. we don’t pay, they now own America.

    From Patriot Room.

    Because it looks like our wonderful new administration is granting the Chinese eminent domain as collateral for US debts. Yea you read that right. That means when we can no longer pay for all this massive spending the Chinese can call in the loans and take our land.

    The thought that American citizens and businesses could lose their land as a means of payment is downright scary. I highly doubt ANY American citizen would have voted for Obama if they knew this was coming down the pike.
    Live Leak has more details.

    Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People’s Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China’s continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!

    The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

    This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take — inside the USA — land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities – to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

    Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to “take” all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.
    This cannot stand. It is traitorous and Obama should be impeached.

    UPDATE (March 3, 2009):

    World Net Daily contacted the State Department for a comment on the story.

    The State Department says there is “no factual basis” to an Internet rumor that went viral over the weekend claiming Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was willing to pledge American homes to China as collateral for Beijing buying U.S. debt.

    The rumor, in various versions, claimed Clinton brought with her last month to Beijing a written agreement offering to extend to China the option to exercise eminent domain rights within the U.S. The rights purportedly were offered as collateral for China’s continued willingness to purchase additional trillions of dollars in U.S. Treasury debt the Obama administration hopes to sell to finance projected federal budget deficits.

    “There is no factual basis or substance to this report,” Laura Tischler, a State Department press officer, e-mailed WND in response to an inquiry.. . .

    Underlying the Internet rumor was the fact that a major purpose of Clinton’s February trip to China was to make sure the Chinese would continue to buy U.S. Treasury debt in the trillions of dollars the Obama administration will need to fund the massive budgetary deficits planned for economic bailouts and an unprecedented expansion of the welfare state.
    So Clinton went to China to give (still unspecified) assurances that the Obama Administration’s blowing of trillions of Chinese-backed tax dollars on pork wouldn’t jeopardize the United States’ ability to pay the debt. That must have been a pretty tough sell. So, though the State Department denies the claim of grants of eminent domain rights, Clinton reportedly did calm Chinese nerves by earnestly telling them that we would pay the bills, “Cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye.”

    If that is good enough for the ChiComs, it is good enough for me.

    https://www.examiner.com/article/impeachment-time-obama-grants-eminent-domain-rights-to-china-to-secure-debt

  8. courage
    April 17th, 2014 @ 10:34 am

    WHEN WILL CHINA REPAY ALMOST ONE TRILLION OF DEBT BACK TO THE UNITED STATES? Seems like we are continuing to be the “paper tiger” that Osama called us!!

    https://news.dienerconsultants.com/cimages/360ce682f729ed519b33907df38dc876/caa_header.gif
    Obama Wants $1 TRILLION Debt Ceiling Hike — But We Can Get That From CHINA Right Now… No Debt Limit Increase Needed!

    YOU READ THAT RIGHT — China owes the United States nearly ONE TRILLION DOLLARS from bonds they sold to US decades ago!

    Everyone always goes on about how much WE owe to CHINA — but they’ve conveniently forgotten the fact that China owes US so much money!

    THAT MEANS WE DO NOT NEED TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING — WE JUST NEED TO WITHHOLD OUR DEBT PAYMENTS TO CHINA!

    CLICK HERE to send Blast Faxes to EVERY SINGLE U.S. SENATOR AND REPRESENTATIVE, to tell Congress to DEMAND that the GAO give a FULL accounting of the debt CHINA owes to AMERICA — And to DEMAND that we WITHHOLD the interest owed China as an offset to the $750 billion THEY owe American citizens!

    You probably haven’t heard about the fact that China owes billions to US — or the fact that they have refused to pay what they owe.

    IT’S TRUE. As Fox News has reported:

    Many decades ago, China sold sovereign bonds worldwide to investors in many nations. They sold tens of thousands of these bonds on U.S. soil to American citizens on the recommendation of our government, indicating it was a solid investment. Over the last sixty years, China has refused to pay to these bondholders either the principal or interest on these full faith and credit sovereign bonds.

    https://news.dienerconsultants.com/cimages/360ce682f729ed519b33907df38dc876/china-us.jpgChina argues that because these bonds were issued by a former administration or regime, the Republic of China, today’s China should not have to honor them. Does this mean that every time the United States changes presidents, we no longer have to honor the interest and principal payments to all who purchased U.S. Treasuries during the previous Administration? Can an incoming president simply refuse to honor any contracts or treaties approved by his or her predecessor?

    OF COURSE NOT. In fact, China’s position is in direct violation of the Successor Government Doctrine of International Law.

    Under international law as it has been understood for centuries, successor governments, no matter the circumstances of the establishment of a new government, whether by revolution or civil war, must pay the sovereign debt incurred by its predecessor. But currently, the People’s Republic of China owes a debt of over $750 billion to American citizens who are holding these full faith and credit sovereign bonds (many of them denominated in gold) sold to them by the Republic of China. Worldwide, the debt China owes to all bondholders is estimated to be several trillion dollars.

    The debt owed to the American people should be paid. The U.S. government could dollar for dollar offset bond interest we owe China with interest, principal and penalties China owes us.

    That would be $750 billion. Split 10 to 1, the U.S. taxpayer saves $700 billion in debt payments and the bond holders could receive the balance. As part of the deal, each state could receive badly needed investment funds as well.

    That’s money that America could use — INSTEAD OF RAISING THE DEBT LIMIT AGAIN AND PUTTING US IN MORE DEBT!

    Let’s make this happen — QUICKLY!

    CLICK HERE to send Blast Faxes to EVERY SINGLE U.S. SENATOR AND REPRESENTATIVE, to tell Congress to DEMAND that the GAO give a FULL accounting of the debt CHINA owes to AMERICA — And to DEMAND that we WITHHOLD the interest owed China as an offset to the $750 billion THEY owe American citizens!

    It’s not like there isn’t precedent for China actually paying back the money they owe from past Chinese government debt. In 1987, threatened with being kept out of the British financial markets, China acknowledged the debt it owed from the sale of these exact same bonds to British investors. As part of the Great Britain-PRC agreement on Hong Kong, the PRC agreed to pay its debt to British citizens who owned these same bonds. By paying the British bondholders — but no other bond owners worldwide, including U.S. bondholders — China “selectively defaulted” on these bonds.

    https://news.dienerconsultants.com/cimages/360ce682f729ed519b33907df38dc876/china-certificate.jpgCurrently, the People’s Republic of China owes a debt of over $750 billion to American citizens who are holding full faith and credit sovereign bonds sold to them by the Republic of China. Worldwide, the debt China owes to all bondholders is estimated to be several trillion dollars. As reported by the American Bondholders Foundation, these facts are not in dispute by the U.S. Treasury Department, the White House, Congress or the State Department. In fact, an official at the Treasury commented that, “Yes, the bonds are real and yes China owes it and should pay it; however, good luck collecting it as China doesn’t really want to pay it”.

    WHO CARES whether China wants to pay it? WE SHOULD WITHHOLD OUR PAYMENTS TO THEM if they don’t!

    Exactly what U.S. or international loophole, guideline, or precedent does China hide behind to keep from having to pay their debt to these bondholders? The answer is simple: None! They simply choose not to pay and no commercial, regulatory or government entity is holding their feet to the fire! China simply ignores the issue — and our own government would rather not have to deal with it and risk “angering the dragon”.

    Yet China continues to enjoy open and unfettered access to U.S. capital markets, it has excessive cash reserves and a strong credit rating which the credit rating agencies (Standard & Poor’s, Moody’s and Fitch) are continually upgrading — even though China’s credit rating status SHOULD be “Selective Default” according to the rating criteria established by the credit rating agencies!

    THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! Congress needs to FORCE the Government Accounting Office to add up the total that China owes American citizens — and then they need to stop paying money to China instead of increasing our own debt ceiling!

    CLICK HERE to send Blast Faxes to EVERY SINGLE U.S. SENATOR AND REPRESENTATIVE, to tell Congress to DEMAND that the GAO give a FULL accounting of the debt CHINA owes to AMERICA — And to DEMAND that we WITHHOLD the interest owed China as an offset to the $750 billion THEY owe American citizens!

    Look, it’s no secret that trade between the United States and China is severely unbalanced. The PRC holds trillions of U.S. Treasury notes and bonds. The U.S. trade figures in 2010 showed a $273 billion trade deficit with the PRC. The difference between what we purchase from them and what they purchase from us is used by China to purchase more and more of our U.S. Treasuries. Then, of course, China receives tens of billions of dollars per year in interest payments from the Treasuries they purchase with profits from the U.S.-China trade imbalance.

    Yet, in July of 2010 and again in November 2010, Dagong Global Credit, a leading Chinese Credit rating agency, downgraded the sovereign credit rating of the United States — even though the U.S. has never defaulted on its debts. Not only has the U.S. never defaulted, it has never even offered to pay at a discounted rate.

    The U.S. pays its debts in full, and yet China downgraded our credit rating due to assessed “potential” risk — while its leaders announced to the world that the U.S. needs to be “financially responsible” and “economically sound.” The irony is that being repaid by https://news.dienerconsultants.com/cimages/360ce682f729ed519b33907df38dc876/china-certificate2.jpgChina is not a “potential risk”; it is today’s reality for thousands of Americans to whom China refuses to pay what is legally and morally owed!

    One U.S. Treasury official, when asked about the U.S. government’s holdings of these bonds, confirmed that they had purchased a significant portion of the 1938, 1939 and 1940 U.S. dollar-denominated bonds, and they are still holding them. He affirmed that they did NOT shred them, destroy them, or in any way get rid of them; in fact, he replied, “Oh God no; we’re saving them for a rainy day!”

    These government officials don’t seem to realize: it is pouring rain outside — in fact, it’s flooding!

    NOW IS THE TIME to take advantage of the fact that CHINA OWES US MONEY! NO MORE DEBT HIKES!

    CLICK HERE to send Blast Faxes to EVERY SINGLE U.S. SENATOR AND REPRESENTATIVE, to tell Congress to DEMAND that the GAO give a FULL accounting of the debt CHINA owes to AMERICA — And to DEMAND that we WITHHOLD the interest owed China as an offset to the $750 billion THEY owe American citizens!

    As Michael Auslin of the American Enterprise Institute wrote in the National Review, “Beijing’s plan since the early 1980s has been clear: Get strong. But in its success, China has developed the idea that the world’s rules don’t apply to it.” And of course, when called to account for its behavior, it throws what Peter Huessy, President of GeoStrategic Analysis, calls “geostrategic temper tantrums.”

    You don’t coddle children who throw tantrums; you make them do what’s right. That’s what we need to do NOW — and that’s why we’ve made it EASY to make your voice heard LOUD AND CLEAR on this issue — please take action NOW!

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    P.S. Ironically — and hypocritically — with the fall of Saddam Hussein’s government in Iraq, the PRC insisted at the United Nations that any successor government in Iraq must be held to pay its debts — including debts to China. The U.N. approved.

    That’s what needs to happen here. We need to add up exactly what China owes America, and refuse to pay them what they say we owe them until they pay US back. PLEASE, take action RIGHT AWAY to DEMAND that Congress TAKE ACTION on this issue — NOW! Thank you!

    CLICK HERE to send Blast Faxes to EVERY SINGLE U.S. SENATOR AND REPRESENTATIVE, to tell Congress to DEMAND that the GAO give a FULL accounting of the debt CHINA owes to AMERICA — And to DEMAND that we WITHHOLD the interest owed China as an offset to the $750 billion THEY owe American citizens!

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  9. Paula Hoehn
    April 17th, 2014 @ 2:46 pm

    Dear Orly,

    Sen. Reid is escalating Bundy Ranch confrontation by evoking image of “domestic terrorists” against the Bundy’s supporters.

    reviewjournal.com/politics/reid-calls-bundy-supporters-domestic-terrorists

    Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    By LAURA MYERS
    LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
    Posted April 17, 2014 – 1:01pm Updated April 17, 2014 – 2:02pm

    Excerpt:
    “U.S. Sen. Harry Reid on Thursday called supporters of Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy “domestic terrorists” because they defended him against a Bureau of Land Management cattle roundup with guns and put their children in harm’s way.”

    “They’re nothing more than domestic terrorists,” Reid said during an appearance at a Las Vegas Review-Journal “Hashtags & Headlines” event at the Paris. “I repeat: what happened there was domestic terrorism.””

    ———-
    Paula Hoehn

  10. Uncle Charles
    April 17th, 2014 @ 3:57 pm

    Wow! Courage…that is a real revelation, about the amount of money the commies owe us! HOw did you come across this info?

    And Reid is a bonified traitor! I”m wondering why the people of Nv continue to put up with this evil guy?

  11. courage
    April 17th, 2014 @ 10:26 pm

    U.C. I don’t remember how I first found this info. Here is a Fox article link…

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/08/26/its-time-for-china-to-pay-its-debts-to-united-states/

    Be sure to click within the article when it reads: “But in fact it is true.”

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